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Anxiety of group finder?
For real?!


God how much I miss good old days when we made Chuck Norris jokes in /2 . No one was scared of anyone.

This is why DF (questing) feels like youre questing in Disney park.

Great idea. There's been a constant thread of complaints, particularly since M+ released, that getting groups is too hard because you're 'forced' to play meta specs, have 10x the required IO score, be massively overgeared, whatever - time for those people to put their money where their mouth is and join communities like this to prove that it's other people holding them back. I might even take a tank into these groups and try to explain routes etc to people.

It's heartwarming to see people take the initiative of forming communities of like-minded players to just chill, and have a good time, without the worry of a try hard no-lifer ruining the experience.

Originally Posted by Palapop

Anxiety of group finder?
For real?!


God how much I miss good old days when we made Chuck Norris jokes in /2 . No one was scared of anyone.

This is why DF (questing) feels like youre questing in Disney park.

Ah how rose tinted your glasses must be.

Originally Posted by Palapop

Anxiety of group finder?
For real?!


God how much I miss good old days when we made Chuck Norris jokes in /2 . No one was scared of anyone.

This is why DF (questing) feels like youre questing in Disney park.

Just because you have no idea what it's like for people who have anxiety doesn't mean that no one should try to make the game more accessible to all.

This is a good thing, and it's obviously not aimed at you so just move on, it doesn't affect you.

Reddit user Lost_Log4035 has created a successful Discord Community for players who find themselves nervous to try group content to play together without the anxiety of group finder. They also have a website and five in-game communities.

Good for them. All too often the spotlight is on the GoGoGo EsPoRtS crowd, it's easy to forget that there is a large amount of more casual players in this game who are facing some entry barriers.

Originally Posted by Hotmail

Good for them. All too often the spotlight is on the GoGoGo EsPoRtS crowd, it's easy to forget that there is a large amount of more casual players in this game who are facing some entry barriers.

why wouldnt the spotlight be on high level play? do you think people would watch awc or the m+ version of that if it was just your average joe doing it?

Imagine having anxiety on the internet, what a snowflake world we live in.

Regardless, now that MMoC and it's OH SO friendly community has made this discord public. I give it one month until it's packed full of elitist morons who turn it into a mirrored image of group finder.

Originally Posted by Hotmail

Good for them. All too often the spotlight is on the GoGoGo EsPoRtS crowd, it's easy to forget that there is a large amount of more casual players in this game who are facing some entry barriers.

So 1% of players are gatekeeping 99%? Every 20 dungeons formed there would be only 1%'er in it. How can they gatekeep all of them? OR is it that "casual players" are actually gatekeeping their own?

Anybody has link for EU?

I understand people who have anxiety, I slowly learnt my way to 15+ keys but every time I went without common routes people left. Wrong turn right? Leave. Wrong turn left. Leave. Kinda understandable but it destroys any wish to try higher keys.
So I just sit on 10-14 keys where people rarely leave. but leave sometimes anyway.

This is amazing and something I've been considering on doing (on a smaller and server-only scale though) myself due to anxiety.
I've been playing since release. Up until mid to late Cataclysm I raided hardcore. I was extremely confident in my skills and knew the ins and outs of my Main class, a druid. Managed to get to rank 13 in Vanilla WoW (before I stopped PVPing and the rank slowly fell off) alongside a good friend of mine, Able, a Rogue and one of the best PVPers in the server at the time. But life got in the way, I took a break. An MMO never stops and constantly changes. So did Druids over time. And due to a certain health condition getting worse I feel like my memory, focus, response times and reflexes aren't as good.

These days every time I come back to the game. While I play really well, there's a weird anxiety that constantly hovers because I know I'm not as good as I used to be and have been in groups where I got kicked out in the past for very small mistakes, or for failing a certain boss mechanic one single time.

But I still very much play the game how I used to. Patiently, like to do dungeons at a good pace (neither rushing nor too slow) and be understanding of others if they are still learning the ropes and want to take it slow, avoid instantly insulting others for messing something up (which can lead to people becoming agitated, groups disbanding, people becoming more hostile, etc) and others.
I understand games can change and evolve so do their communities. But the way things work these days it feels very unforgiving, which doesn't really help anyone's anxiety.

On top of that, due to my schedule there are days when I can play a LOT, or I'll randomly have to take a break from the game without knowing for how long. So it's very hard to commit to static Mythic/Raid groups or a guild. So I just play alone. I do most of the content alone. When I am able to do any Raid Finder raids I'm a bit proud of myself for having no Mythic experience, far from the top ilvl but still consistently landing on top 5 of higher at the end of raids. But I still very much miss higher end content. The thrills and rewards from it and some of the camaraderie that enjoys and plays the game in a similar way.

All of this to say that maybe that type of Discord is exactly what I needed this whole time. So I really can't wait. Just have to see when they open it for all the EU peeps!

Originally Posted by erifwodahs

So 1% of players are gatekeeping 99%? Every 20 dungeons formed there would be only 1%'er in it. How can they gatekeep all of them? OR is it that "casual players" are actually gatekeeping their own?

That's not what I'm saying. I'm poking fun at e-sports culture, and pointing out that anxiety (or fear of failure) is a very real entry barrier.

Does not even matter if you make mistakes in wow dungeons and they get mad you will never see those people again. So to those people who are nervous i say just spam dungeons until you learn them and dont even think of the people you end up with it's very rare people even say hi these days.

Originally Posted by OokOok

Imagine having anxiety on the internet, what a snowflake world we live in.

Regardless, now that MMoC and it's OH SO friendly community has made this discord public. I give it one month until it's packed full of elitist morons who turn it into a mirrored image of group finder.

Yeah I'm sure life was so much better when we just shoved any mental problems into a locker, or ignored them and pretended they didn't exist. Why don't we just go back to lobbing chunks of people's brains off instead?

And large discord servers tend to have moderators to handle that kind of issue.

Good initiative i guess... but also will never understand how can you get anxiety to talk/play with other people in MMo game.
Thats the whole point... to have interactions with others.
Sadly there will be also alot of trolls joining these discords now.

Originally Posted by Hotmail

Good for them. All too often the spotlight is on the GoGoGo EsPoRtS crowd, it's easy to forget that there is a large amount of more casual players in this game who are facing some entry barriers.

I'd love to see Blizzard gather a couple teams of 40-year-old dads-of-three to compete against each other in dungeons. I'm sure it'll be great content to see them fail the first pull of a Ruby Life Pools 11 six times in a row because Dad #4 doesn't have interrupt on his bar while Dad #5 (the healer) is AFK because his fucking kid spilled juice all over the floor for the third time that day.

JK, if it was actually these players we'd just see them getting out their credit cards and buying boosts from the MDI players. : ^ )

Originally Posted by Relapses

JK, if it was actually these players we'd just see them getting out their credit cards and buying boosts from the MDI players. : ^ )

Maybe we SHOULD see that on stream during a promoted Blizz event.

Wouldn't that be something.

Would have to short sodium futures, too. Salt'd go THROUGH THE ROOF.

Originally Posted by Relapses

I'd love to see Blizzard gather a couple teams of 40-year-old dads-of-three to compete against each other in dungeons. I'm sure it'll be great content to see them fail the first pull of a Ruby Life Pools 11 six times in a row because Dad #4 doesn't have interrupt on his bar while Dad #5 (the healer) is AFK because his fucking kid spilled juice all over the floor for the third time that day.

You severely underestimate 40-year-old dads-of-three(tm).

JK, if it was actually these players we'd just see them getting out their credit cards and buying boosts from the MDI players. : ^ )

Nah, I doubt they care. They're either playing Classic or are perfectly content with running Ruby Life Pools 5.

Imagine having "anxiety" but playing an MMORPG.

Fucking dumb.

Originally Posted by Hotmail

You severely underestimate 40-year-old dads-of-three(tm).

Yeah, I was a 40-year-old dad when I was raiding top 30-50 US, and several of my guildies were in a similar age bracket. It was those young whippersnappers that were terrible at the game and had zero patience for learning/progressing.

Honestly, if I didn't have a wife and kid, I probably would've raided even higher level but taking care of the family didn't allow for a flexible playing times that those guilds would required. That was basically what was fun about our guild though, we were mostly middle-aged men and women with full-time jobs outside of WoW that were good at the game and limited time to play.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the average WoW player's age increased over time at a similar rate as the age of the game. Of the players I know that still play WoW, they almost all started playing between vanilla and WotLK, very rarely are they youngin's.