Thread: Valithria Dreamwalker - What are they doing wrong?

4 healers (1 can be an offspec) with all 3 in portals and 1 left out for raid heals is all we do and it's realy quite easy.

You also want to tell your healers that when they zone in to meet at the head and go around togeather because the slash from the orbs is aoe and can buff em all at the same time building their stacks faster.

1 healer 1 dps inside the portals works fine in 10 man

the healer may never loose his stack.


whats inside the portal: just go in it when you are wiping anyway to see, its bascically the exact same room with green stuff above the dragon where you can "fly" to and grab them

Ive downed it 3 healing and ive downed it 4 healing on 10 man. Tbh 4 healing is easier as the amount of healing on her outweighs the need for dps on adds. The key is to have 1 healer stay out and the other 2-3 healers take portals every time. Basically their stacks cant drop.

We have a priest glyphed for Guardian spirit cast it on the boss every time its up right when our other healers come out of the portal. This increases healing she takes by 50% which is a huge help and since GS only has a 1 min cooldown if glyphed u can do this multiple times per fight.

Also when your healers get around 15 stacks or so of the buff (like 3 portal rotations) When they come back out of the portal use bloodlust+Guardian spirit for extremely good results.

The fight is all about having your dreamwalker gain enough stacks of the buff. I'm currently the one that does this for our 10 and 25 man fights. Here is what I do:

As soon as she drops here portal spots, I run to the nearest one. While there, I continue to heal the dragon while mouse clicking the portal spot, so as soon as the portal becomes active I enter it. Since the dragon inside is a different mob, any casts occurring will cancel immediately.

Upon entering, I immediately jump and head straight up. There will always be a cloud directly above the portal, and the whole trick to the encounter is being able to hit a cloud as soon as you can upon entering. Once I get that first cloud as quickly as possible, I start to go around the room collecting clouds.

The trick to collecting clouds is two-fold. 1, only the small bright dot of the cloud actually counts, so you are trying to hit that small object and 2, since there is server lag, I often stop until the cloud explodes. I might lose a second or 2, but better that then missing the cloud.

I continue to get clouds until 5 seconds remain in the dreamstate, then I find my last cloud and try to hit it with 1 or 2 seconds remaining in the dreamstate. The buff lasts for 35 seconds and the portals pop every 25 seconds, so if done correctly, you have a 5 second window on each side. Since the client always experiences some server lag, this window is often as small as 2 or 3 seconds. If you can get the last ball in the last second or 2, you will have 8 or 9 seconds when the portal pops to gain the buff and restart the stack timer.

TLDR version:
Click the portals as soon as they pop.
Try to get the first cloud of every portal as quickly as possible (there is always one above the portal)
Pause a second on the bright dot of the cloud
Try to get the last cloud in the last second or 2 of the dreamstate

The idea of 4 healing a 10 man fight boggles my mind. You can 2 heal that fight with 5 minutes left on the enrage if your healer knows what he's doing in the dream state.

When you're in dreamstate don't "swim" all over the place, just move back and forth where you are and you will be fine. The more you move, the more you will lose your position and greater chance of losing your stacks. Works for 10 and 25 man.

10 man is a little bit harder since only 2 portals show on the ground.. just be quick to run to where they will spawn so the stacks don't drop b4 you port in.

For this fight we ran three healers, one resto shaman(who stayed out of the portals), a holy paladin, and me(resto druid off-spec).
When the portals come up the paladin and I entered and got as many as we could together and then got out and spam healed Dreamwalker, Holy Light Spam + Nourish Spam with Hots up. Then when the portals came up again we got in as soon as we possibly could and snagged one of the orbs as fast as we could so the stack wouldn't fade: This being the key point because the first two times we lost our stacks and that caused the wipe.

So just make sure the healers keep up the stacks and then just spam their most powerful spells with the high stacks of the debuff and even the lower stacks you get wicked regen with it so have they smash keys like a madman, a healing madman that is : D.

Originally Posted by Shabull

The idea of 4 healing a 10 man fight boggles my mind. You can 2 heal that fight with 5 minutes left on the enrage if your healer knows what he's doing in the dream state.

How do you 2 heal it in 1-2 minutes? Our soft enrage is usually 7ish minutes in, if you have 5 minutes left on the enrage, your healers are doing an absolutely awesome job!

I play a Holy Pala and this fight is my favourite because i get to pump out insane number. The most important thing here is to make sure you grab a cloud just before you exit the portal (1-2 secs) or you risk losing your stack. Then you ahve to enter the portals ASAP and grab 1 cloud to refresh the stack.

I usually manage to get 5-6 stacks per portal, and the otehr day she died (healed) when i was at about 22 stacks (in 10 man). We did it with 3 healers, me and a resto duid going in the portals and another pala outside healing.

If you are talking about hardmode, dont listen to me, i havent been there yet.

We use 3 healers, one staying outside and healing raid all the time (holy priest). Two going to portals on every portal, stacking buff to sick amounts, and healing only boss(holy paladin and restoshaman, though two holy paladins would do better. Even better would propably do two restodruids - do some math about effectivity of hots and direct big spells, and the rotation would be like enter portal-bighealz-Hots-enter portal-repeat)

The point of druids is that their hots tics up while they are in portal ,which should result in better hps.

Also, the buff is stackling+10% healing and 200mp3 for every stack. Which means that you will have infinite mana pool after 1-2 portals. That means if you really have problems with this fight, create gearing strategy for your two portal healers(this will propably be needed on hardmode):

Gem only SP, wear only SP/haste/Crit gear. Because stats like spirit and manaregen are worthless in this fight. Spirit is not worthless unless it gives you more overall hps (whatever spirit-related talents druids and priests have) than crit or haste on some item, which propably wont happen.

About the portal room itself, you should get minimal 5 stacks of buff every time. Minimal.

With this things applied, thsi fight would become even more easy that its now, in normal version. 10 man.

I've gotten up to 42 stacks in 25 man and about 35 in 10 man. At that point, my Healing Waves are critting for 100k. Don't forget to amp magic the boss, every little bit helps.

Originally Posted by yuina

How do you 2 heal it in 1-2 minutes? Our soft enrage is usually 7ish minutes in, if you have 5 minutes left on the enrage, your healers are doing an absolutely awesome job!

I'm sorry, I thought it was 10 minute fight. It usually takes us about 5 mintues. We're not that amazing.