WoW Down to 9.6 Million Subscribers

[Saeran]

Who gives a rat's a*se about sub numbers as long as you enjoy the game?

[Stede]

they made over a billion dollars in profit. thats the positive spin. subscribers mean nothing as long as the game is profitable

No, that's not true at all. I get your point, but profit potential is pretty huge in the valuation of a company.

[Deleted]

they made over a billion dollars in profit. thats the positive spin. subscribers mean nothing as long as the game is profitable

Yes and they are making money by sacrificing the quality of the game.

That's not good for gamers.

[Collected]

9.6 million subscribers for a game many said would be 'dead' by now. I'd say they're doing just fine.

[Kazuchika]

I hope you realize, that if that 500k is from U.S or Europe, that is a huge deal. I assume 4-7 mill players alone are from outside those 2 continents.

I expect more subscriber decrease in the coming months. 500k was just the beginning. I don't get why people still playing this old game. No matter what blizzard puts in, an old game, will always remain an old game.

I'm going to make a bold guess and say... because they enjoy it?

[Deleted]

Oh noes.
I fear that the worst of conversations and topics are about to being.....
Anyway, nice to see Diablo doing so well

But Diablo isn't doing well, just because it sold a lot of copies based on the name of the game doesn't mean it was actually any good there is a lot of statistics that show the numbers playing has drastically decreased since release because it just isn't very good.

[Zokten]

It's still above pre-MoP levels?

Its above 12million wow.

[Chickat]

You are putting a positive spin on a huge loss.

How many people do you think play in the U.S. and Europe? 2+ million respectively? Losing 1/4 of your market in one of those places is not something that you can just ignore.

Yes pretend all the losses are in na/eu

I honestly think its the theme of MoP. If it had been a legion expansion with everything 100% the same wed be at 11m atm. MoP while good was the wrong xpac to have after Cataclysm. It will be interesting to see if they can come back from this.

[Dasn]

I don't get why people still playing this old game.

I don't know maybe they are still having fun?
I've been playing since November 2004. Granted, with a few breaks during college semesters. Still kept up on World of Raids though (RIP)

[gor3howl]

Subscriber Definition: World of Warcraft subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an
active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft, as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free
month of access. Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted
as subscribers.

With that the sub loss could very well be from the eastern market

[Kazlehoff]

Que the idiots to start braying how "wow is dying"

que blizzard to bakctrack the best expac since TBC and casual it up for everyone again

[Dasffion]

The 500k loss has to be in Europe/US, so a big deal.

No it doesn't. In fact it's likely that a majority of them weren't from Europe/US as most of the big losses in the past were from the east. I don't see an indication one way or another from this release but to say that it "has to be from Europe/US" is ignorant.

[docterfreeze]

Now subtract the gold farmers, bots, and multiboxing accounts... what's the number then?

[nekobaka]

Waiting on the reasons from the conference call. Only thing that could be speculated based the design shifts coming into 5.2 is that the large focus on dailies and mindless grinds rubbed a large enough of players the wrong way.

No it doesn't. In fact it's likely that a majority of them weren't from Europe/US as most of the big losses in the past were from the east. I don't see an indication one way or another from this release but to say that it "has to be from Europe/US" is ignorant.

We might find out soon. The first large drops was noted to be coming from Europe/US and later quarterly reports stated a larger portion coming from Asia as Blizzard further reduced the already gutted grind in Cata. Europe/US tend to not enjoy grinds and time investment as much as their Asian counterparts. It is not entirely ignorant to think that the larger losses are from Europe/US.

[Deleted]

So what? A decline is a decline, WoW's "golden age" is long over, the game is going to keep losing players, will you still be using that defense when it's down to 3 million players?

Yeah golden years are over.
But atm there isnt a MMO thats getting close.
Just have to wait for the next 'golden years of wow' MMO.

[Gurg]

i'm more surprised that D3 sales continued to climb so high considering it's reputation.

That is happening only for one reason. Bot's. I know few people who had 10-15 D3 boting accounts and one "safe" account on which they would send all goldz. Banwave hit them, bot accounts are lost, buy new ones and continue to make money.

[CaptainArlong]

Drop the monthly fee to something worthy of an 8 year old video game, and I'll come back. $8.99 a month is fine.

[Zokten]

. But we're talking of a drop from 10,000,000+ to 9,600,000. That's not even 1/10th of the subscription base. That's not even 1% of the subscription base.

Ummmm its 4%

[Harry Botter]

Mindless haters never cease to amaze me. "A year or two left on WoW" I think it was on the first page. Give me a fucking break.

[Matchu]

Its above 12million wow.

It's above 1, which is also a pre-MoP subscriber number.

You knew exactly which number I was referring to, the one just before release.