Thar ya go.Originally Posted by TeamFourStar
He trained himself in the chamber just as hard as he trained Gohan. It was when he first got Gohan to go SSJ for the first time in the chamber he realized that Gohan was more powerful despite Goku having been a SSJ much longer and trying to get to the next level. Gohan was just naturally stronger when he put his emotions into the fight and a better choice for cell and possibly reaching SSJ2. It's not like Goku slacked off at all, he was actually fighting as hard as he could and Gohan was keeping up no problem not realising his dad was actually going all out. Thats what made him choose Gohan instead to fight cell. Gohan was stronger then Goku, without even breaking a sweat.
He legitimately tried to beat cell, and could not, like he knew he would not. I also think your confusing that other quote with him saying in the Buu saga that when Gohan beat cell he thought he was done being the hero but the buu saga made him realize he was wrong about that.
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The generalist looks outward; he looks for living principles, knowing full well that such principles change, that they develop. It is to the characteristics of change itself that the mentat-generalist must look. There can be no permanent catalogue of such change, no handbook or manual. You must look at it with as few preconceptions as possible, asking yourself, "Now what is this thing doing?" -Children of Dune
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It gets mentioned somewhat, but not tons. Not again in the actual show, but in the movies and DB:O.
"There is no teacher but the enemy. No one but the enemy will tell you what the enemy is going to do. No one but the enemy will ever teach you how to destroy and conquer. Only the enemy shows you where you are weak. Only the enemy tells you where he is strong. And the rules of the game are what you can do to him and what you can stop him from doing to you." -Mazer Rackham - Ender's Game Orson Scott Card
Goku might have beat fat buu.... key word is MIGHT. ss3 is like a CD in wow. plus he only had a limited time and ss3 would have and did take time away.
Goku was also dead at the time so it made sense for him to want to make goten/trunks and gohan stronger
He still didn't know how to go SSJ2. Remember, Trunks and Vegeta trained their asses off to get as strong as they did, but they were still too slow for Cell. Goku didn't know the trigger for that. Though, that doesn't really explain why he thought Gohan was the one that could find the trigger.
I think he just saw the potential in Gohan when he went SSJ the first time and earlier examples. His rate of growth is ridiculous compared to the other saiyans. Meanwhile in Gohan's head he thinks everyone is just holding back when they fight him. Really he's just so far above them and so innocent he doesn't even realize how strong he is himself. That says something about how strong Gohan is and Goku recognized that I think. If he could only get Gohan to believe in himself for one second cell would be crushed.
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The generalist looks outward; he looks for living principles, knowing full well that such principles change, that they develop. It is to the characteristics of change itself that the mentat-generalist must look. There can be no permanent catalogue of such change, no handbook or manual. You must look at it with as few preconceptions as possible, asking yourself, "Now what is this thing doing?" -Children of Dune
Speaking of Gohan, the new movie just got whole lot more awesome.
They noticed the error with Gohan not using his ultimate form, and corrected it.
full article here.
http://www.saiyanisland.com/2013/03/...enshots-scans/
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awww so he might not go mystic super saiyan 1
I think it will 100% won't happen.
"New screenshots and scans of Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods have been released! The first, below on the left, is of Ultimate Gohan from the movie. He replaces Super Saiyan Gohan who showed up in the second trailer for Battle of Gods. As many of you have mentioned, after Gohan’s training with Old Kai in Dragon Ball Z’s in the Fusion Saga (part of the Buu Arc), there was no need for Gohan to go Super Saiyan as his dormant powers were already achieved. Scriptwriter Yusuke Watanabe and the team over at Toei Animation realized this and made sure the correct version was in the movie. You can see a comparison below of Ultimate Gohan (left, now in the movie) and Super Saiyan Gohan from the second trailer (right, no longer in the movie)."
Now I can only hope vegeta wears his buu saga attire
Also I noticed in the new screen shots, even though Krillin has hair, he still has dots on his forehead. Not sure if he stil had the dots in buu saga.
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i also hope vegeta goes ss3.... because he will be sexy
I think personally, that (while the circumstances that initiated it was not in his control) Goku orchestrated Gohan's transformation into SSJ2.
Using his personal experience, the only thing that made any of the Saiyans go SSJ1 was extreme distress and emotional turmoil once they got to that level.
I think Goku saw that Gohan was just as strong as the form Trunks and Vegeta trained to achieve, but hadn't reached that trigger yet, and instead of saving himself and King Kai, let himself die from Cell's explosion just to give Gohan that emotional fragility he needed to break the barrier.
I think he had planned it the whole time to do something like that, and sacrificing himself was the perfect opportunity that had 2 possible outcomes (Cell actually dies from the blast and Gohan doesn't have to transform, or he fails and Gohan can finish Cell). Krillan had to die for him to break into SSJ1, and he felt he needed to give an even stronger emotion to Gohan to make him break into SSJ2, a lot of the story bits seem to fit into this idea (The way he acted during the tourney, and before during the days before it as well).
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I had a cool sig... then photobucket ate my pics and now its borked. :/ oh wells...
Yeah Vegeta should go ss3 and pwn Wis. That way Vegeta ... sorta gets a major kill...
Speculation leads to believe Bils has a connection with Frieza, well I believe Wis has a connection with Zarbon.
Why else would Zarbon be Frieza's right hand man. He wasn't even really that strong, like every ginyu would have made a better right hand.
Plus i'd like to see Vegeta skull F$%# someone who used to spit on him again, or had something to do with it.
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and so ends the story of Bardock unless you know anything about merchandising,
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