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    Quote Originally Posted by Davillage View Post
    It's about reasonable suspicion we are not talking about just putting them into jail for doing nothing.
    Reasonable suspicion? So you back padle to "if they did something they should be prosecuted"? I don´t think people disagree with you here.
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    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
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    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    Yeah, some people are inherent assholes, but as long as they don´t act upon it, who cares?
    It matters because it creates a bad atmosphere. Like having stagnant water pools in a areas help mosquitoes and germs to breed there. Now you can kill the germs and mosquitoes or you can clean the water pools. If you stop caring about the dirty water, you'd have mosquitoes and germs all over the place.

    But lets go a bit further: If you start protecting the germs and mosquitoes because they've got rights, then there's less focus on cleaning the dirty water around. And the mosquitoes and germs are still there. Stronger than ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post
    no but you can teach them that it's wrong.
    Did anyone argue against this?
    Quote Originally Posted by ash
    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    Reasonable suspicion? So you back padle to "if they did something they should be prosecuted"? I don´t think people disagree with you here.
    No its about giving reasons for an investigation.

    Mandatory mental treatment being another issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpole View Post
    Taking a shit in a toilet is also a social construct. You mention age of consent but when involving a minor it refers to the consent of the parents not the child.
    No..it isn't, it's the age the law considers a person mentally competent enough to consent to sexual activity.
    It has nothing to do with parents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mehrunes View Post
    But what's wrong in just having thoughts about it? If they are not expressed outwards, how does it excuse vilifying people?
    A lot of the pedophiles who get caught have child pornography on their computers/devices. That obviously is a crime. Just head fantasies? That is not illegal, disturbing yes but illegal no. Acting out those fantasies for real obviously becomes a crime.

    Still if someone comes "out" as a pedophile they should rightfully never work with children. They should get any help they need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttak82 View Post
    It matters because it creates a bad atmosphere. Like having stagnant water pools in a areas help mosquitoes and germs to breed there. Now you can kill the germs and mosquitoes or you can clean the water pools.
    What is this? I don´t even. How do you clean someone of his thoughts?
    Quote Originally Posted by ash
    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

  8. #208
    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post
    who said my fantasies were tame though? I just believe you should not sexualise people unless they want you to.
    As noble as that is, that'll never happen.

  9. #209
    Quote Originally Posted by Davillage View Post
    It's about reasonable suspicion we are not talking about just putting them into jail for doing nothing.
    No, you only wanted them rounded up and contained Also, how is a visit from the Police a valid response to your "reasonable" suspicion? "Hi, we were told you are a pedophile, how are you today sir?" It only alerts the "reasonable" suspect of being a suspect. Monitoring sounds like a solution to yield better results.
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    Does the CIA pay you for your bullshit or are you just bootlicking in your free time?
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    I'm quite tired of people who dislike something/disagree with something while attacking/insulting anyone that disagrees. Its as if at some point, people forgot how opinions work.

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    Your argument is silly. "Homophobia" works as an insult because there's absolutely no reason to be afraid of gay people. There are no consequences for having gay people around, causitive or correlative. There are absolutely, without doubt, actual real world consequences for having pedophiles around certain groups of people. There's not a real counter-argument to that beyond "well, but if they don't." Yeah, IF they don't. Putting foxes in charge of guarding the hen house is fine too, IF they don't get too hungry. Its absurd to say that not letting foxes guard henhouses is discrimination when we've got perfectly functional guard dogs, and other perfectly fine jobs for our foxes. What i'm getting at is that SJW stuff works exclusively on the idea of popular support and group shaming, which does not function in this case. SJW language games don't work in this case because, rather than being a cultural construct, fear and revulsion for pedophilia is rational and correct. Which means that if some 17 year old calls you a pedophobe on twitter, you respond with "so?" and everyone agrees with you and the game ends. So no, SJW people are not going to magically force you to accept pedophile babysitters, that's not how it works.

  11. #211
    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post
    I just believe you should not sexualise people unless they want you to.
    Good luck with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post
    who said my fantasies were tame though? I just believe you should not sexualise people unless they want you to.
    The way you represent them comes off as completely tame. And what you believe doesn't mean it's what works for everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post
    no but you can teach them that it's wrong.
    They know it is wrong, most people know it is wrong. The ones who act on it were ones that were going to no matter what we teach them. The only time that is applicable is outside of Western culture. It is the same arguement as the teach men not to rape, its just a different target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post
    It wont if people just give up so easily and don't even try
    If everyone participated in an ideal world, sure. But how would that honestly work without having to police someone's thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mehrunes View Post
    No, you only wanted them rounded up and contained Also, how is a visit from the Police a valid response to your "reasonable" suspicion? "Hi, we were told you are a pedophile, how are you today sir?" It only alerts the "reasonable" suspect of being a suspect. Monitoring sounds like a solution to yield better results.
    Containment is not necessary physical.

    It's like not letting alcoholics near bars which would be necessary if alcoholic beverages had emotional capcities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davillage View Post
    Having thoughts about it and thinking it is only an arbitrary social construct that it hurts children and not searching professional help.

    This should certainly get the police active.
    When will you stop ignoring the difference in age of consent being different even among western countries and decide to share your brilliant thoughts on the matter?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Does the CIA pay you for your bullshit or are you just bootlicking in your free time?
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirishka View Post
    I'm quite tired of people who dislike something/disagree with something while attacking/insulting anyone that disagrees. Its as if at some point, people forgot how opinions work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderaan View Post

    First they push tolerance, then acceptance, then celebration and supremacy.
    Wow this actually made me laugh. Pray tell, where is this place in which minorities have supremacy? I'd love to go there.

  18. #218
    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post
    It wont if people just give up so easily and don't even try
    I don't see a reason to, the whole premise is silly.

  19. #219
    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post
    who said my fantasies were tame though? I just believe you should not sexualise people unless they want you to.
    Do you sexualize celebrities?

  20. #220
    Quote Originally Posted by khalltusk View Post
    A lot of the pedophiles who get caught have child pornography on their computers/devices. That obviously is a crime. Just head fantasies? That is not illegal, disturbing yes but illegal no. Acting out those fantasies for real obviously becomes a crime.

    Still if someone comes "out" as a pedophile they should rightfully never work with children. They should get any help they need.
    "Not expressed outwards" was somewhat of a key part of my post.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Does the CIA pay you for your bullshit or are you just bootlicking in your free time?
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirishka View Post
    I'm quite tired of people who dislike something/disagree with something while attacking/insulting anyone that disagrees. Its as if at some point, people forgot how opinions work.

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