This Expansion is Like Christmas For the Alliance

[The Iron Fist]

As I wrote in another thread:

“The Horde gets ashenvale, darkshore, hyjal, and several other lush lands full of natural resources not to mention a magical well stronger then the sunwell and nightwell put together. The alliance gets the plaguelands, south shore which is plagued, Gilneas which is plagued, undercity which is super plagued....just wow. Who the fuck thought this through?”

You must’ve gotten some really shitty gifts as a kid if this is like Christmas to you.

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A world tree was burned down, how does the Cenarian circle remain neutral after that?

You forget that the druids and paladins know how to cleanse the blight now. Did you do the Western Plaguelands questing in Cataclysm?

[Jawless Jones]

They know how to cleanse the Scourge Plague of Undeath.
The Forsaken Blight is more similar to a toxic acid, and no one (not even the Forsaken) have been able to clean up the modern strains.

[Deleted]

Praise Blizzard.

We are reviving the Alliance of Lordaeron and adding it on top of the modern Alliance + their new allies. Talk about stacked.

Lordaeron, Gilneas, Stromguard, Kul Tiras ... I'd imagine the predominantly Alliance Dalaran would go blue lore-wise too. Who knows, maybe we'll even see a revival of Alterac.

Not to mention Tol Barad and other lesser domains that can be reclaimed/rebuilt/revived (Andorhal, Stratholme, South Shore, Menethil Harbor). At this point, with Blizzard waving their magic plot wants around, anything is possible. I wouldn't put anything past them. Maybe we'll even see the Scarlet Crusade join.

And all we had to give in exchange for all of this are some far flung and relatively uninhabited forest lands and a tree.

We gave the ancesteral homeland of our strongest ally, for a ruin. Not to mention the only stronghold we got in Kalimdor now is Feathermoon, which is more like a village after Cataclysm. Sure we might have Exodar, but thats an Island which is completly isolated, we cant reinforce it without getting destroyed by the forsaken fleet.

[Maxilian]

A world tree was burned down, how does the Cenarian circle remain neutral after that?

Well many of their members are Taurens, and we do not know if the Tauren have a problem with their Warchief right now

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What was the reasoning for the Horde to burn Teldrassil? Is this another bs moment in blizz's butchering of the lore. As if making Garrosh go full retard back in mists wasn't enough.

[Austilias]

It's certainly promising, but I'll see how the expansion plays out.

From a sentimental point of view, Teldrassil is a huge loss to me. My first character was a Night Elf Druid and that's where it all began.

My inner cynic wonders if the Horde "burning down" Teldrassil is on par with the Alliance merely "attacking" Lordaeron, but we'll see how it plays out in-game. I definitely like to think they will at least reclaim Gilneas and have it be a fully fledged city. Genn Greymane needs his revenge, and Sylvanas needs to pay.

I'm also hoping that Jaina kicks Khadgar's ass and reclaims Dalaran, but I can't help but feel she's no longer her angry, crazy, ass-kicking self we saw from MoP onward.

[Florena]

What was the reasoning for the Horde to burn Teldrassil? Is this another bs moment in blizz's butchering of the lore. As if making Garrosh go full retard back in mists wasn't enough.

We don't know yet. It's possible it's a retaliation for destroying the undercity but could have happened before it.

[Charge me Doctor]

Really? Teldrassil and whole kalimdor is taken over by horde, and gnomes aren't even mentioned in cinematic. Again. Genn is going to be in the spotlight for some stupid reason. How exactly is that "Christmas"?

[Florena]

It's certainly promising, but I'll see how the expansion plays out.

From a sentimental point of view, Teldrassil is a huge loss to me. My first character was a Night Elf Druid and that's where it all began.

My inner cynic wonders if the Horde "burning down" Teldrassil is on par with the Alliance merely "attacking" Lordaeron, but we'll see how it plays out in-game. I definitely like to think they will at least reclaim Gilneas and have it be a fully fledged city. Genn Greymane needs his revenge, and Sylvanas needs to pay.

I'm also hoping that Jaina kicks Khadgar's ass and reclaims Dalaran, but I can't help but feel she's no longer her angry, crazy, ass-kicking self we saw from MoP onward.

Lordaeron is ruined and uninhabited now from what we've seen, so the horde are apparently losing it. Which is kind of funny after having people say 'pff the alliance could never win a fight here against the forsaken.'

As for Jaina the trailer pretty clearly still has her as anti horde, but she's probably not going to retake control of dalaran. I mean Khadgar didn't steal it from her, she LEFT when the council outvoted her on letting the horde back in. She'll probably be more involved in the Kul'tiras stuff instead.

[Charge me Doctor]

Night Elves sacred forests and Mount HYjal and the Well of Eternity Traded for ruins and blighted land.

Good trade

The only thing i could see as a "good trade" as if Gnomes take over the most eastern kingdom lands, make giant titan-like facilities and pump out mecs, and heavy machinery. But currently its just shit

[Deleted]

If the alliance burned down Silvermoon, it would have been a fair trade. But we dont even get Silvermoon

[The Iron Fist]

If the alliance burned down Silvermoon, it would have been a fair trade. But we dont even get Silvermoon

Patience. There is this thing called 'patches' that happen in WoW. There is also a chance that Blood Elves flip factions so they don't lose their beloved Sunwell. They have been very vague on this expansion, self-admittedly, because they don't want to give away story and spoil it.

[Hubbl3]

Kalimdor seems to be the way better continent in terms of everything compared to Azeroth. And you don't even get Silvermoon. Yes, Christmas.

[Charge me Doctor]

You forget that the druids and paladins know how to cleanse the blight now. Did you do the Western Plaguelands questing in Cataclysm?

That's scourge blight, not forsaken blight. Forsaken blight is hard to clean even for forsaken themselves (according to legion question)

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What was the reasoning for the Horde to burn Teldrassil? Is this another bs moment in blizz's butchering of the lore. As if making Garrosh go full retard back in mists wasn't enough.

Eh, maybe Tyrande found the way to "cure" undead into being, well, you know, dead, and Sylvanas flipped out

[Ulfric Trumpcloak]

I expect major characters to die in both Teldrassil and the Undercity. Tyrande or Malfurion for sure.

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On this thread, Night Elves aren't Alliance.

[Wyrt]

On this thread, Night Elves aren't Alliance.

I bet they're wishing they weren't right about now. They'd still have their home if they weren't allied to the humans.

[steelballfc]

I doubt Blizzard has the balls to upset the status quo enough for it be Christmas for either side.

at the end of the expansion they will re-re-take the city's

or at least they will test the player reaction

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Really? Teldrassil and whole kalimdor is taken over by horde, and gnomes aren't even mentioned in cinematic. Again. Genn is going to be in the spotlight for some stupid reason. How exactly is that "Christmas"?

ahem " lordareon "

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What was the reasoning for the Horde to burn Teldrassil? Is this another bs moment in blizz's butchering of the lore. As if making Garrosh go full retard back in mists wasn't enough.

Sylv : they toke my city
some random orc : there is a giant tree there we can burn if you want
sylv : fine whatever.

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If the alliance burned down Silvermoon, it would have been a fair trade. But we dont even get Silvermoon

the horde didn't invade the dreane for some reason.

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Patience. There is this thing called 'patches' that happen in WoW. There is also a chance that Blood Elves flip factions so they don't lose their beloved Sunwell. They have been very vague on this expansion, self-admittedly, because they don't want to give away story and spoil it.

it never gonna happen
you will not upset a player base just for the story, it's one of WoW downside, also the blood elf's tried 2 time to re-join the alliance, and alliance gave them middle finger.

[Mirishka]

Praise Blizzard.

We are reviving the Alliance of Lordaeron and adding it on top of the modern Alliance + their new allies. Talk about stacked.

Lordaeron, Gilneas, Stromguard, Kul Tiras ... I'd imagine the predominantly Alliance Dalaran would go blue lore-wise too. Who knows, maybe we'll even see a revival of Alterac.

Not to mention Tol Barad and other lesser domains that can be reclaimed/rebuilt/revived (Andorhal, Stratholme, South Shore, Menethil Harbor). At this point, with Blizzard waving their magic plot wants around, anything is possible. I wouldn't put anything past them. Maybe we'll even see the Scarlet Crusade join.

And all we had to give in exchange for all of this are some far flung and relatively uninhabited forest lands and a tree.

Um... no. The loss of Teldrassil is huge.

[steelballfc]

Um... no. The loss of Teldrassil is huge.

the loss of undercity is huge also