What if blizzard decides No addons allowed for Classic?

[Deleted]

<.<
>.>

I'm fully aware of how it works. Its lazy design.

Yeah! And it was on purpose. Provide a very lacking UI, Open API to let 3rd parties do the job and create addons.
Addons are basically the tool that Blizzard provided us.
So saying "no addon and we play the game with anything other than the tools blizzard provides us" makes no fucking sense. <.< >.>

You never used addons ever ?

[A dot Ham]

Yeah! And it was on purpose. Provide a very lacking UI, Open API to let 3rd parties do the job and create addons.
Addons are basically the tool that Blizzard provided us.
So saying "no addon and we play the game with anything other than the tools blizzard provides us" makes no fucking sense. <.< >.>

You never used addons ever?

I prefer to use as little as possible. Believe it or not the game can be played without them.

The issue becomes when those brilliant folks like you force others to get addons, because of your own laziness, in an attempt to make the game MORE idiot proof.

[Echohunter]

I think it might be more fun with no add ons...

As someone that tried to use no addons leveling a new character on Nost and also having actually played retail vanilla, it's not. Addons offer a ton of features that simply did not exist at that point in time.

[Thage]

It should be applied to retail too. A lot of addons these days are way too extreme and take knowledge/skill out of the game and display it on timers instead.
Make boss/class mechanics more apperant but remove a lot of these handholding addons.

Yeah, Vanilla-era healer addons and Decursive didn't take all the skill out of it--just click the name at the top of the list, woo-hoo! And swing timers? Man, that was skill incarnate, just wait for the prompt.

On-topic: Won't happen. Blizzard has always been aware their base UI sucks and were happy to let fans do the repair work for them. Unless it automates gameplay or puts giant circles on the ground that don't need manual placement, they tend not to care.

- - - Updated - - -

Question is will addons be developed and maintained for Vanilla?

If the audience is there for it, yeah. I imagine addon developers will. Some already took up developing Vanilla addons for private servers; now they can do it and get their addons on more public download sites like Curse rather than quietly putting them up on the server forums.

[hulkgor]

Question is will addons be developed and maintained for Vanilla?

They already were and you'll probably be able to use all of those, even some that were developed in legacy realms, so i don't see why not.

[Deleted]

The real question is, what API for addons they will use for classic...

If it's the original one that was back there in vanilla, some addons would go out of the hand (like AVR in wrath) so you can pretty much ignore the mostly non existant mechanics all together

[Deleted]

People still use Skada?

Since it can manage things Details can't (I'm assuming you're using Details given your arrogant statement), yes, people still use Skada.

Based on this poll it seems to be pretty popular:
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...eter-of-choice

[stomination]

I had more addons in Vanilla than I do now. I doubt they'd make that choice.

- - - Updated - - -



It still is.

That's what people say but then can never back it up.

[hulkgor]

<.<
>.>

I'm fully aware of how it works. Its lazy design.

Having an Open API is "lazy design"? You have to be trol..... oh, you actually are, nevermind then. Carry on trolling then buddy, have at it.

[Mercane]

Since it can manage things Details can't (I'm assuming you're using Details given your arrogant statement), yes, people still use Skada.

It was a legitimate question, with no insult intended. I asked because I haven't heard of anyone still using Skada (a relatively inaccurate) meter since mid-WoD.

I'm curious to know what Skada does that Details doesn't, since Details can pretty much do everything (sometimes a plugin is required)

[orderschvank]

If i dont get addons I wont be too sad. The only thing I will miss would be decursive and the mailing addon. thats pretty much the only 2 things id really want haha.

[Super Kami Dende]

That's what people say but then can never back it up.

Can never back what up?

[Acidz]

What if Blizzard would allow you to use only one arm playing the game?

[Razion]

Addons were part of the old experience, so they would have to allow the ones that were usable back then.

[Varvara Spiros Gelashvili]

Would you still play it?

I'd play tbc and every other expansion with no addons.

[Laqweeta]

I'd play tbc and every other expansion with no addons.

Just give me my Bartender addon and I'm all set. Pls.

[Varvara Spiros Gelashvili]

Addons were part of the old experience, so they would have to allow the ones that were usable back then.

They could be built into the interfaces with disabling options.

[Uurdz]

Would you still play it?

This is a good question, given some of the changes Blizzard has made changes in the past where they found the macros/addons to be counter to their standards around how the game can be played.

What is uncertain is, what capability did addons have in Vanilla? Do the more complex addons we use today exist because the capabilities have grown or because our data/dev abilities have grown?

An outright ban won't happen. It would make no sense to ban addons which allow for customisation of frames/minimap or for in-game item lookup etc.
There may however, be functionality bans which they may implement to limit what the addons can do.

[Deleted]

I prefer to use as little as possible. Believe it or not the game can be played without them.

The issue becomes when those brilliant folks like you force others to get addons, because of your own laziness, in an attempt to make the game MORE idiot proof.

So you use addons.... blame on me? Which one do/did you use?

In vanilla you can still play without and fail because blizzard make threat management one of the main difficulty of ancounters but don't provide anything to actually manage your threat, counting on 3rd parties to solve the problem.. mandatory addon. Either blizzard provides it (they finally did), or you download an addon for it. If you don't, you gimp yourself and possibly a whole raid of people trying to progress.
The shitty, incomplete UI and the way bosses work forces you to get addons, not me. But keep on calling me stupid, obviously you didn't invent hot water either ...

[Deleted]

It was a legitimate question, with no insult intended. I asked because I haven't heard of anyone still using Skada (a relatively inaccurate) meter since mid-WoD.

I'm curious to know what Skada does that Details doesn't, since Details can pretty much do everything (sometimes a plugin is required)

It can't update total values in real time, something Skada does perfectly fine:
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...e#post48146212

In m+ current fight numbers doesn't mean a thing, it's the total which matters as the clock is on the whole run, not a specific pull. I want to be able to have a clear view of damage, healing, interrupts and damage taken to see who's doing what in order to get a clearer picture of peoples performance in our runs.