Divulging HIV Status

[Spiffums]

Isn't it illegal not to do so?

Not in California. That law passed this year.

[Sett]

Not in California. That law passed this year.

I still don't get what logic went into that train of thought.

[NicoWolf]

The easiest way to sum up this topic can be said like this:

"If you won't have sex with me because I have HIV, I should be able to lie so you'll do me."

If you support this, fuck you.

There is no way around it. If you have to lie, either by omission or otherwise, to get laid, please kindly fuck off and die. I don't care if you're taking treatment and pose a minimal risk of infection. If you tell someone and they say no, YOU FUCKING RESPECT THEIR CHOICE and accept the fact they aren't going to open themselves to the risk. This isn't about your selfishness and your need to get laid; this is about their informed consent and their right to life.

"But but there's treatment!"

Oh, I guess that means it's okay to subject people to the stigma you suffer just so you can get off.

No. Fuck that and fuck you.

[hakujinbakasama]

Not really, if they're on treatment and we use protection the risk is minimal

The number of fucks given should still be zero in many cases.

I wouldn't care if you were Magic Johnson levels of treatment. The answer would be "I'm gone!" More So, I can already see this becoming the new civil rights debate thanks to California this year, along with the porn star suicide.

It's going to be a bullshit argument about how it's "HIV-phobic" to not suck a HIV positive dick Rae.

No thanks. N. Korea needs to set the west coast straight already.

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I mean you can literally ruin their life if you don't tell them so why the fuck would you not?

[Celista]

Was having a discussion about HIV and divulging your status with people you're intending on having a physical relationship be it long-term or one-off. Most of my friends with HIV said they would always divulge their status beforehand so said person can make a fully informed decision. I personally agree with this and feel it's the responsible and morally right thing to do, that said my other friend with HIV says he shouldn't have to because people should always assume everybody is HIV+ regardless. Personally I don't agree because it's making an assumption everybody has the same mindset.

Now as MMOC is full of various people I am curious what people think, should somebody with HIV divulge their status beforehand?

Uh, your friend is wrong. You have a moral and oftentimes legal responsibility to disclose HIV status if you are HIV+.

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I think you should have to divulge any STD, not just HIV/AIDS.

Me too. I don't understand why we don't have laws in this regard yet.

[hakujinbakasama]

Uh, your friend is wrong. You have a moral and oftentimes legal responsibility to disclose HIV status if you are HIV+.

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Me too. I don't understand why we don't have laws in this regard yet.

It should be a law. It's a health risk. I've always felt that this should be an area in which both parties of politics should easily agree.

[Ryme]

Personally, I think you have to be a colossal scumbag to not divulge this information before hand.

[XangXu]

I work in porn and currently a lot of things change for us in this matter. To my personal liking. Many companies come forward now and tell perfomers to always assume everyone is HIV positive and we should use protection, if not we need to get tested beforehand.

I really like that because the number of HIV positive performer that do not disclose their status has become alarming over the years.
Sucks for them though because it slowly becomes a thing that might end their career.

But Idc as long as more people are save.

You should work on portraying a positive image of porn. Right now it's considered like... "unmanly" if you wear a condom durring sex. You have the power to sway the legions of idiots.

[Deleted]

I'm shocked, who would have possibly thought you would be friends with people who spread sexual diseases. You seem like such a well balanced, upstanding sort of person.

I already said I don't agree with him

[Mister Cheese]

I still don't get what logic went into that train of thought.

Having an STD is a sexual preference and it's discriminatory to force people to divulge that kind of information. Something like that.



Same mindset as these people. Warning. This video may actually make you fucking vomit.

[Cherrytie]

You should work on portraying a positive image of porn. Right now it's considered like... "unmanly" if you wear a condom durring sex. You have the power to sway the legions of idiots.

The only place I could put the condom on is my hand tho...

I could do a handpuppet maybe?

[THE Bigzoman]

Was having a discussion about HIV and divulging your status with people you're intending on having a physical relationship be it long-term or one-off. Most of my friends with HIV said they would always divulge their status beforehand so said person can make a fully informed decision. I personally agree with this and feel it's the responsible and morally right thing to do, that said my other friend with HIV says he shouldn't have to because people should always assume everybody is HIV+ regardless. Personally I don't agree because it's making an assumption everybody has the same mindset.

Now as MMOC is full of various people I am curious what people think, should somebody with HIV divulge their status beforehand?

Most wrestlers compete knowing that getting ringworm and Infinitigo are large possibilities. That dolesnt he justify someone knowingly wrestling with it and passing it on to someone else.

[Noradin]

Now as MMOC is full of various people I am curious what people think, should somebody with HIV divulge their status beforehand?

It's actually a crime in some countries not to tell beforehand if you know you are positive.

[Deleted]

It's actually a crime in some countries not to tell beforehand if you know you are positive.

Established

[Dr Assbandit]

I've dated HIV + undetectable guys before and one of my best mates found out last year he was +ve thanks to his cheating whore of a boyfriend. Another good friend of mine who is undetectable has been in a serodiscordant relationship with his husband of 15 years and they don't use condoms, and the other is still negative as he takes PreP as well.

Generally I have a take no chances policy for casual hookups and even well into dating so I'll use condoms. I expect the other person to tell anyone they are potentially courting or about to have sex with about their status similar to if they had say chronic Hep B/C. That being said they aren't required to divulge that information to employers or colleagues.

Now I've noticed a worrying trend or mindset in the gay community and also heterosexual people regarding disclosing their HIV status. On top of this, apparently its offensive to even suggest guys use condoms now and I have been called a "condom Nazi" and a highly judgemental person before multiple times because I advocate safe sex.

The following is an example from a conversation I had on a gay dating app because he told be he "only barebacks" and I respectfully declined to have sex with him:



For some reason this sort of attitude is highly prevalent in the leather/BDSM community.

[Deleted]

I've dated HIV + undetectable guys before and one of my best mates found out last year he was +ve thanks to his cheating whore of a boyfriend. Another good friend of mine who is undetectable has been in a serodiscordant relationship with his husband of 15 years and they don't use condoms, and the other is still negative as he takes PreP as well.

Generally I have a take no chances policy for casual hookups and even well into dating so I'll use condoms. I expect the other person to tell anyone they are potentially courting or about to have sex with about their status similar to if they had say chronic Hep B/C. That being said they aren't required to divulge that information to employers or colleagues.

Now I've noticed a worrying trend or mindset in the gay community and also heterosexual people regarding disclosing their HIV status. On top of this, apparently its offensive to even suggest guys use condoms now and I have been called a "condom Nazi" and a highly judgemental person before multiple times because I advocate safe sex.

The following is an example from a conversation I had on a gay dating app because he told be he "only barebacks" and I respectfully declined to have sex with him:



For some reason this sort of attitude is highly prevalent in the leather/BDSM community.

I noticed that attitude a lot on Scruff

[Dr Assbandit]

I noticed that attitude a lot on Scruff

It's like telling a police officer to not put on a bullet-proof vest because it's stigmatizing towards people who enjoy shooting guns .

[Deleted]

It's like telling a police officer to not put on a bullet-proof vest because it's stigmatizing towards people who enjoy shooting guns .

I notice a lot our usually under 25 too but unfortunately a lot of gay men are self destructive

[Dr Assbandit]

I notice a lot our usually under 25 too but unfortunately a lot of gay men are self destructive

Yeah they are unfortunately. I started writing a paper on it after seeing straight people absolutely love to use that as justification to tell gay people "see you guys are sick" when this kind of behavior actually has a complex and deep-rooted social reasoning behind it.i should get back to finishing it and maybe see if I can get it published.