Why Arms has so many buttons?

[Deleted]

I just can't bind all of them. I have no problem with 5 buttons Furry spec, but Arms, omg, how do you bind all of your abilities? I am not good at using buttons from nmb. 5 - 9 and F5 - F10. They are too far away from my fingers, so i am forced to take more passive talents which i don't like too.
I use 5 mouse buttons, regular numbers from 1 to 5 and q,e,r,t,v,b,c,f. Sometimes i bind F buttons from f1 to f4, but it's hard to play a melee class with F buttons, it's way easier to do it with range class.
Ability pruning my ass.

[Wolfx93]

is this real?

[DanThePaladin]

Because they have so many...... Arms!!!!

*I'll show myself out*

[Deleted]

you also hav the shift and ctrl options.. but please the prunning must be stopped. my druid has lost alot of ablitys unless he's in that peculuar spec..

[ReD-EyeD]

What? Arms is probably THE LEAST button clogged spec in the ENTIRE GAME.

[Deleted]

OP wants this.

[Deleted]

What? Arms is probably THE LEAST button clogged spec in the ENTIRE GAME.

Are you kidding me? Do you take any of your active Talents and PvP Talents? Just log in and check how many buttons you can have as Arms, compared to Furry, Affliction or Vengeance. MW Monk and Holy Priest are two exceptions: they both have even more buttons than Arms.
Obviously you guys just take passive talents, but that's your problem.

Arms: dmg only abilities:
1.Slam
2.Victory rush
3.Mortal strike
4.Execute
5.Colosus Smash
6.Cleave
7.Hamstring
8.Whirlwind
9.Battle cry
10.Bladestorm
11.Charge
12.Heroic Throw
13.Overpower
14.Rend
15.Warbreaker
+ at least two active pvp talents
+ non damaging abilities ( 5 or 6 of them, maybe 7)

Fury:
1.Execute
2.Bloodthirst
3.Furious Slash
4.Rampage
5.Enrage
6.Raging Blow
7.Whirlwind
8.Battle cry
9.Charge
10.Odyn's Fury
11.Heroic throw
All passive talents, because of poor choice of active ones.
Maybe one active pvp talent

Who's trolling now?
I didn't say i want less abilities, i just wanna now how do you bind all of these ...

[Morgaith]

5.Enrage

???
10 chars

[Lithix]

Because they have so many...... Arms!!!!

*I'll show myself out*

[Mage in Pajamas]

Many of the buttons you mentioned are situational, such as charge and victory rush and are not rotational.

If you don't want to macro or use shift or buy a gaming mouse you can still use keybinds for the simple rotation. If you are using every on use talent you are going to have a cluttered rotation though, and if Icy Veins is correct sub optimal anyway.

[Deleted]

???
10 chars

Ups, my bad. So even less than

[Tholl]

Are you kidding me? Do you take any of your active Talents and PvP Talents? Just log in and check how many buttons you can have as Arms, compared to Furry, Affliction or Vengeance. MW Monk and Holy Priest are two exceptions: they both have even more buttons than Arms.
Obviously you guys just take passive talents, but that's your problem.

Arms: dmg only abilities:
1.Slam
2.Victory rush
3.Mortal strike
4.Execute
5.Colosus Smash
6.Cleave
7.Hamstring
8.Whirlwind
9.Battle cry
10.Bladestorm
11.Charge
12.Heroic Throw
13.Overpower
14.Rend
15.Warbreaker
+ at least two active pvp talents
+ non damaging abilities ( 5 or 6 of them, maybe 7)

Fury:
1.Execute
2.Bloodthirst
3.Furious Slash
4.Rampage
5.Enrage
6.Raging Blow
7.Whirlwind
8.Battle cry
9.Charge
10.Odyn's Fury
11.Heroic throw
All passive talents, because of poor active ones choice.
Maybe one active pvp talent

Who's trolling now?
I didn't say i want less abilities, i just wanna now how do you bind all of these ...

I use

1-4
Shift+1-4
Q
Shift+Q
F
G
X
Shift+X
C for any interrupt
Z
Shift+Z
Shift+W
Shift+X
Shift+S

And I have two side buttons on my mouse that I key along with the Shift+ variations of them, and also pushing down the mouse wheel for trinket.

I usually have about 20-24 things keyed up.

[Drtydeeds]

Thanks for the laugh this morning, lol.

If you're trying to individually bind every skill (also you left Avatar out of both specs) you're going to run into a problem like this.

You should look into modifiers (ex: shift + 1 is my binding for Charge).

Personally I utilize shift, alt, and ctrl modifiers so that cuts down on the individual keys needing to be bound. I also have most "rotational" bound to keys on my mouse, including mousewheel up and down and shift modifiers on mouse bindings as well.

Your approach to keybinding would be difficult for any class and spec, time for a change

[MisterBigglez]

OP wants this.

Haha I remember having that bug, oh WoD, you big troll

[Michh]

I am so used to a naga mouse I'm not sure how I could play without it, and as other have suggested, I use shift for a lot of my abilities.

One I don't see mentioned in your set up, mouse wheel up/down, shift plus up/down. Also, you can use mouse wheel as a button too, and with shift. That's 6 additional binds. Because I'm old (48 and counting thankfully) and have arthritis, I use mouse wheel down for BT, mouse wheel up for RB. Shift MW down for FS, shift MW down for Rampage. This makes it a lot easier on my old hands.

I've had to change my keybinds several times over the past couple years because of pains in my hands and arms.

I do agree that PVP will bring to light buttons you wouldn't normally use in PVE. Though I don't PvP very often.

Anyway - good luck.

[Jujudrood]

Your best bet is to familiarize yourself with shift+ and ctrl+ macros.
So, you can have MS as your Button 1, then have Vistory rush as Shift+Button 1, as an example.
That way, your non-modified ability that you use will be just the button, but when you need that VR, hit shift and button, so it's out of the way.
Figure out which is better/more comfortable to use, shift or ctrl, then put your medium cds on + binds of the better one, then your odd situational ones (like heroic throw) on a + bind of the lesser one.

Also, if you play any other classes or specs for warrior with any frequency, a tip I usually offer others is to group buttons by their usage.
For instance, I have fury BT bound to '1', then as arms I have MS bound to '1' because, in my mind, they kind of serve the same purpose as far as rotations go, so when I switch specs, I don't have to focus on what's what.
Then I have shift+ for things like avatar because I want to use it, but I don't want it to take up prime real estate.
I use 1-5, q,e,f,g for primary abilities, which are rotational 10sec or less, with shift+ for my cds and ctrl+ for situationals.
I tried using a naga, but I guess I've just been gaming too long or otherwise have some mental limitations because I just can't get the hang of it, so keyboard binds are a life saver for me.

[Linri]

you could get one of those extra keyboards thats made for gaming, that strictly has like buttons for attacks etc

[DanThePaladin]

Hahahahaha. Love the URL "Talented People Leave"

Thats totally me!

[Archimtiros]

Are you kidding me? Do you take any of your active Talents and PvP Talents? Just log in and check how many buttons you can have as Arms, compared to Furry, Affliction or Vengeance. MW Monk and Holy Priest are two exceptions: they both have even more buttons than Arms.
Obviously you guys just take passive talents, but that's your problem.

Arms: dmg only abilities:
1.Slam
2.Victory rush
3.Mortal strike
4.Execute
5.Colosus Smash
6.Cleave
7.Hamstring
8.Whirlwind
9.Battle cry
10.Bladestorm
11.Charge
12.Heroic Throw
13.Overpower
14.Rend
15.Warbreaker
+ at least two active pvp talents
+ non damaging abilities ( 5 or 6 of them, maybe 7)

Fury:
1.Execute
2.Bloodthirst
3.Furious Slash
4.Rampage
5.Enrage
6.Raging Blow
7.Whirlwind
8.Battle cry
9.Charge
10.Odyn's Fury
11.Heroic throw
All passive talents, because of poor choice of active ones.
Maybe one active pvp talent

Who's trolling now?
I didn't say i want less abilities, i just wanna now how do you bind all of these ...

You know you don't actually use all those buttons, and a lot of them can be macro'd right? Also, how are you going to say "All passive talents, because of poor choice of active ones." for Fury, and then include Overpower and Rend (without T20) for Arms?

Warrior in general has a lot more buttons than many specs now, but they both have a low button count rotation, especially T21 Arms.

[Dalheim]

You know you don't actually use all those buttons, and a lot of them can be macro'd right? Also, how are you going to say "All passive talents, because of poor choice of active ones." for Fury, and then include Overpower and Rend (without T20) for Arms?

Warrior in general has a lot more buttons than many specs now, but they both have a low button count rotation, especially T21 Arms.

Don't come here with your knowledge! xD