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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurata View Post
    wrong forum please delete mods
    talks about nazism whilst displaying an avatar of a hammer and sickle. possibly the biggest killer the world has ever seen. estimates put total deaths from communism into the hundreds of millions. china, cambodia, ussr take your pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant008 View Post
    Don't let yourself get tricked by their name, antifa are fascists in it purest form.
    How do you guys even come up with this shit? Do you even know what fascists are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulcrusher View Post
    talks about nazism whilst displaying an avatar of a hammer and sickle. possibly the biggest killer the world has ever seen. estimates put total deaths from communism into the hundreds of millions. china, cambodia, ussr take your pick.
    Fun fact, if we use the same definitions used for the death of communism in the black book of communism and use it for capitalism.. capitalism outranks communism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Antifa is not really an ideology anyway, just refers to a group of people who, since the '30s, opposes fascism by any means necessary.
    And you think that makes it okay when beat up, for example, disabled people in the name of their cause? Then again its easy to ignore the real shit and just cherry pick the parts you like.. kinda like religious people do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    How do you guys even come up with this shit? Do you even know what fascists are?
    Well you seem to think neo nazis are the same as the nazis from the last great war, just because of the name.
    #boycottchina

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Fun fact, if we use the same definitions used for the death of communism in the black book of communism and use it for capitalism.. capitalism outranks communism.
    No it doesn’t.

    Very few deaths have been done in the name of capitalism, offhand I can’t think of one war fought in the name of capitalism.

    I have seen a graphic that Communists use, which infers that people who have died of diseases worldwide are somehow the victims of capitalism, but it doesn’t explain how that is not also the fault of all other existing systems and not just capitalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    Unfortunately people don’t ask what it was like.

    Just today I went to Cafe Cuba and all the staff were wearing Che t-shirts, I doubt any of the numerous Italian cafes here would consider getting their staff to dress in Mussolini tops. It is bizarre how far left mass murderers have been sanitised to that extent.

    The food is good there though.
    The irony is delicious eh? The far left makes neo-Nazism to be the same as nationalism, and that Hitler was a monster (yes he was, but in his mind he was justified in what he did), and yet they absolve all the communist dictators of the mass murders they have committed in the name of communism that significantly trump the amount of murders that Hitler committed under his Nazi regime. I'd love for them to explain how nationalism, or even national socialism, is worse than communism from a death toll perspective. The probably can't because all they care about is the ideology and the "pros" of communism. Same shit with Marxism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennadrel View Post
    The irony is delicious eh? The far left makes neo-Nazism to be the same as nationalism, and that Hitler was a monster (yes he was, but in his mind he was justified in what he did), and yet they absolve all the communist dictators of the mass murders they have committed in the name of communism that significantly trump the amount of murders that Hitler committed under his Nazi regime. I'd love for them to explain how nationalism, or even national socialism, is worse than communism from a death toll perspective. The probably can't because all they care about is the ideology and the "pros" of communism. Same shit with Marxism.
    Nobody on the libertarian left defends tankies. So nice strawmen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennadrel View Post
    The irony is delicious eh? The far left makes neo-Nazism to be the same as nationalism, and that Hitler was a monster (yes he was, but in his mind he was justified in what he did), and yet they absolve all the communist dictators of the mass murders they have committed in the name of communism that significantly trump the amount of murders that Hitler committed under his Nazi regime. I'd love for them to explain how nationalism, or even national socialism, is worse than communism from a death toll perspective. The probably can't because all they care about is the ideology and the "pros" of communism. Same shit with Marxism.
    One of my favourite YouTube clips...

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uB4o5n2EGyA

    The lady putting the case for Mao is Diane Abbott of the British Labour Party, she is the Shadow Home Secretary, one of the top four positions in the official opposition. If her party came to power she would be in charge of things like the Police.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    One of my favourite YouTube clips...

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uB4o5n2EGyA

    The lady putting the case for Mao is Diane Abbott of the British Labour Party, she is the Shadow Home Secretary, one of the top four positions in the official opposition. If her party came to power she would be in charge of things like the Police.
    terrifying isnt it. up there with corbyn being friends with the IRA and praising socialist police state venezuela. i dont think either of them have ever had a proper job in their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulcrusher View Post
    terrifying isnt it. up there with corbyn being friends with the IRA and praising socialist police state venezuela. i dont think either of them have ever had a proper job in their lives.
    Corbyn called Hamas and Hezbollah his friends, Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell is a self professed Marxist, the Shadow Foreign Secretary Emily Thornberry thinks an interviewer asking her questions about foreign policy is sexist, Diane Abbott is a racist idiot and yet the young voted for them in droves because Corbyn made vague offers about getting rid of student debt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulcrusher View Post
    terrifying isnt it. up there with corbyn being friends with the IRA and praising socialist police state venezuela. i dont think either of them have ever had a proper job in their lives.
    lol ofcourse you'd oppose Corbyn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    lol ofcourse you'd oppose Corbyn
    Anyone that thinks Venezuela is an economic model to aspire to, or that Fidel Castro was a champion of social justice, is worth opposing. It’s student level politics and he was made leader of the Labour Party by a bunch of student activists.

    He was an MP under Kinnock, Smith, Blair, Brown and Milliband, yet none thought he was worthy of even the lowliest of positions within the Labour Party. He’s nothing more than a placard waver who lucked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    One of my favourite YouTube clips...

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uB4o5n2EGyA

    The lady putting the case for Mao is Diane Abbott of the British Labour Party, she is the Shadow Home Secretary, one of the top four positions in the official opposition. If her party came to power she would be in charge of things like the Police.
    Holy fuck, the mental gymnastics that woman is playing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    lol ofcourse you'd oppose Corbyn
    If you gotta be an useful idiot of the bourgeoisie you might aswell be good at it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Antifa is not really an ideology anyway, just refers to a group of people who, since the '30s, opposes fascism by any means necessary.
    Now the idealogy that stands polar opposite to facism.. that be anarcho-communism, democratic socialism and the likes.
    And what happens when that "any means necessary" ideology risk becoming the same kind of authoritarian violence that the fascists themselves use?
    The most difficult thing to do is accept that there is nothing wrong with things you don't like and accept that people can like things you don't.

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    But their uniform was pretty smart looking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurata View Post
    If you gotta be an useful idiot of the bourgeoisie you might aswell be good at it
    Communists blaming everything bad and labelling anyone they disagree with as bourgeoisie is no different than how Nazis blamed everything bad on Jews.
    The most difficult thing to do is accept that there is nothing wrong with things you don't like and accept that people can like things you don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    Anyone that thinks Venezuela is an economic model to aspire to, or that Fidel Castro was a champion of social justice, is worth opposing. It’s student level politics and he was made leader of the Labour Party by a bunch of student activists.

    He was an MP under Kinnock, Smith, Blair, Brown and Milliband, yet none thought he was worthy of even the lowliest of positions within the Labour Party. He’s nothing more than a placard waver who lucked out.
    Dude couldn't even answer a question if he'd protect you guys if somebody nuked you.

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    Sure. All decent liberals and conservatives should hate both Nazis and communists with a fiery passion. Not feeling that way is evidence of having muddied thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    Sure. All decent liberals and conservatives should hate both Nazis and communists with a fiery passion. Not feeling that way is evidence of having muddied thinking.
    "Everyone who doesn't think like me is stupid !"

    That sure sounds like a true virtue herald here

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