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    Quote Originally Posted by Strangebrew View Post
    Feminists and progressives protecting their own pedophiles and sexual harassers is nothing new, we have certain people on this forum alone that have and still defends a pedophile.
    All in the delusion that they are fighting some massive nazi movement because they want decent journalism and authoritarianism out of the industry.
    Roy Moore and Dennis hastert are not progressives. Get out of here with that shit.

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    I'd be more inclined to believe that they wouldn't such a story to air, not to protect pedophiles, but because it is pretty darn bad PR.

    Which is less sinister albeit still problematic, but I don't think that level of nuance was the goal
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    https://youtu.be/nslCeqwKuCk Some choice excerpts from MTG Headquarters.

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    The level of internet sleuthing here is actually terrible. In one case it includes someone who was removed from the sex offender registry before they got involved with magic, in one other case it was about someone who is currently in prison and hasn't been involved since his conviction (since he's been in prison). He found two actual cases and guess what happened they were both removed as judges and scrubbed from the record as judges. This is no more suppressing evidence than when Subway got rid of all of the Jared ads when he was charged with pedophilia related crimes. As for those saying that WOTC failed to do background checks, it's important to point out that none of them would of actually triggered a background check when they were "hired".

    It also doesn't help that the person behind this "investigation" is someone who is known for doctoring screenshots and being a serial harasser, so his word is worth less than nothing. Daily reminder that screenshots of text without links is not evidence, because literally anyone with a rudimentary understanding of html can edit anything to say exactly what you want.

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    There is no publically known pedophiles as judges in mtg. The only ones the prat in the op's video found evidence of were banned from judging the moment their crimes were known about. Meanwhile, that guy from unsleeved media publically released a list of judges personal data that included the names and addresses of minors himself.
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    Sounds like internet drama take 1 million.
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    Many businesses don't do full criminal background checks on Staff.

    I doubt this is a "OMG WOTC SUPPORTS/DEFENDS PEDOS" situation, but moreso a "We just hired people who applied" situation.

    Chances are if you shone a light on literally any large company that has the possibilities of having Kids around it you would find random accounts of Pedos in them.

    Just think of how many Retail stores there are in the World and how few of them do criminal background checks yet have Children shop in them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennadrel View Post
    I don't know if I have ever seen children play Magic.
    But they must stir that shit up !

    Let's pretend WotC is a children care organisation. Not that the whole thing is retarded.
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    Im sure they are going to contribute in unique ways to this awesome card game...


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    Just don't let people work with other people at all except if they are asexual otherwise someone's getting raped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennadrel View Post
    I don't know if I have ever seen children play Magic.
    Then you don't go to game stores and tournaments very often. There was recently a video about a girl who was...8? I think, fml I can't remember, who was actually stomping people pretty bad. I've known a kid since he was 10 (he's 19 now) that I met at a game store playing MTG. It's how we became friends.

    And that's one of gaming's biggest issues - people who AREN'T gamers try to apply their standards TO gamers. A D&D game can have people ranging from 6 to 60. That doesn't make the 60 year olds pedos. It's the same way with a lot of hobbies. The hobby itself is ageless, and people of all ages enjoy it. I've been playing with this kid since he was 10, that doesn't mean I took him on dates, went to his house and had anal sex with him. It means we met up in public places and played a game we both really enjoyed.

    Anyway, as for the OP, I can only just sit here and /facepalm that you even bothered making this thread. You could remove WotC from this and put in almost ANY OTHER COMPANY IN THE WORLD and it would still ring true. Is there a point to this? Or are you just butt-hurt because you got your ass ROFLSTOMPED in a tournament? Or are you one of those people who think it's actually still funny to make fun of nerds and geeks? And on a geek site too? F'real?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shodan30 View Post

    Video up for now, but there has been a targetted group flagging attack on this video and others like it on twitter, facebook, and youtube.

    In short, WOTC has official Judges that have criminal records from sex crimes to pedophilia, they do no background checks, have announced they will take no action against these people, and are now suppressing people trying to report this. These judges are constantly in a position of authority around groups of children associated with Magic: The Gathering events across the country. It is Illegal for them to not consider background for these positions, hence the sudden attempts at a coverup and suppression.
    Do show me where its illegal, the judge program is a very strained and needed program as it is. They dont get paid, they donate thier time to others. And they are not in charge of the events, The store owners or venue or event runners are, and thats not judges unless they happen to be one themselves. Adding backround checks will either add a new fee to becoming a judge or put more cost on WTC and cause them to shut down the judge program and kill events across the world. Would you like to provide an example of a child being molested or approached by a pedophile at an event that happens to be a judge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strangebrew View Post
    Feminists and progressives protecting their own pedophiles and sexual harassers is nothing new, we have certain people on this forum alone that have and still defends a pedophile.
    I'm sure that when he gets back, Sulla will be deeply offended that you called him a feminist progressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    But the company didn't hire them. They just certified they know the rules of their game and when a local store decides to host a tournament, the judge shows up and store owner notifies they have a certified judge so the event can be considered sanctioned. Are we going to go after the store owner as well?
    If the store owner is running the event and the judge will be in a position where they have control over children then it probably will be up to the store owner to check the judge.

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    Let me guess, Unsleeved Media-Guy is still pissed, he got fired, after violating the CoCs multiple times, and continues a MTG smearing campaign he started 3 months ago?
    Last edited by josykay; 2018-01-10 at 09:25 AM.

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    The fact that they removed his account on an online game because of what he said outside their platform is, for me, the worst part of it.

    Imagine blizzard monitoring your twitter and banning you from WoW, that makes little to no sense and is absolutely not fair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knolan View Post
    The fact that they removed his account on an online game because of what he said outside their platform is, for me, the worst part of it.

    Imagine blizzard monitoring your twitter and banning you from WoW, that makes little to no sense and is absolutely not fair.
    Outside their platform, about people, on their platform. If you are blabbering your bullshit, no matter if cosplayers, players, CMs, GMs or others, I wouldn't be suprised, if the banhammer comes at you, because after all, it is associated. Problably most people wouldn't care about average Joe's twitter account, but once you are a loud voice of the warcraft community...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    EULA makes it legal. But yes, fairness is disputable. Imo, deciding to be a horrible human being should have consequences. WotC has a right of freedom of association after all.
    Well, I disagree. If what he said was on their platform, sure, but outside their platform is definitely an overreach.

    Quote Originally Posted by josykay View Post
    Outside their platform, about people, on their platform. If you are blabbering your bullshit, no matter if cosplayers, players, CMs, GMs or others, I wouldn't be suprised, if the banhammer comes at you, because after all, it is associated. Problably most people wouldn't care about average Joe's twitter account, but once you are a loud voice of the warcraft community...
    Again overreach IMO, but then again, if that is the case, they should also ban the people doing the mass flag campaign against him, since this is also against the EULA. And the pedophile judges, otherwise it will look like they are playing favorites.
    Last edited by Knolan; 2018-01-10 at 09:53 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knolan View Post
    Well, I disagree. If what he said was on their platform, sure, but outside their platform is definitely an overreach.
    If I rented a billboard outside Blizz headquarters writing in big block letters that blizzard hires pedophiles and put my personal contact information on the board to say come call me and I'll direct you to the proof you can bet I'd deserve Blizz closing my account. They don't want to be associated with me, even as a customer.
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