Child death rate higher in United States than other wealthy nations

[Deathcries]

You know, one can bring up any reason why the US is a shit country these days and I wouldn't be surprised anymore. Sometimes I feel that some of the Arab countries are doing better than the US.

If you're a man probably. Also not gay, and believe in Allah and the prophet Muhammad. Then you'd be good to go.

[Draco-Onis]

It rarely is. But you can often point to one factor which stands out from the rest for predicting a certain phenomenon. Just off-hand, something like fatherlessness is the strongest predictor for criminality, beyond education and poverty. If you know a bit about multiple regression you can understand how someone can validly point to one factor as pretty darn important and the rest being relatively superficial.

I mam not sure what you are talking about but we are talking about death of pregnant women and young children due to lack of health care. I am not sure what this has to do with anything other than our abysmal failing health care system which is failing those less fortunate even more as more people move to cities. Black people or fatherlessness has nothing to do with countless hospitals closing their maternal / children unit or closing altogether.

Texas has a 12% black population and it's the #1 state when it comes to maternal deaths almost as bad as Mexico. So health care not race feel free to make a race thread if that is the argument you seek.

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I never said it wasn't a big deal. I'm saying it isn't the SOLE reason for the rise in the child death rate in the US like the other poster was implying.

The poverty rate among African Americans is high so it will affect them more but the US has one of the highest childhood poverty rates in the developed world. From pregnancy death rates to after they are born poor people are at high risk of dying. The argument can be made that they shouldn't have children but unless we plan to sterilize them all it's a health care issue the US needs to address. This is why we need major health care reform and the answer is not more money but reform because we are spending the money it's just going to the wrong people (rich corporate CEOs).

[szechuan]

The poverty rate among African Americans is high so it will affect them more but the US has one of the highest childhood poverty rates in the developed world. From pregnancy death rates to after they are born poor people are at high risk of dying. The argument can be made that they shouldn't have children but unless we plan to sterilize them all it's a health care issue the US needs to address. This is why we need major health care reform and the answer is not more money but reform because we are spending the money it's just going to the wrong people (rich corporate CEOs).

Ahhh yes keep the Black Man down! Pro Life!
LOL

Too bad you left out the part that those majority of blacks mentioned live in Rural Places and accessibility to good Healthcare and Maternal Healthcare is hard to seek.

[Draco-Onis]

Ahhh yes keep the Black Man down! Pro Life!
LOL

Too bad you left out the part that those majority of blacks mentioned live in Rural Places and accessibility to good Healthcare and Maternal Healthcare is hard to seek.

I already mentioned that in this thread several times, it's people in rural areas period unless you think only blacks live in those areas.

[szechuan]

I already mentioned that in this thread several times, it's people in rural areas period unless you think only blacks live in those areas.

I never said all, let me clarify when I said Majority.
What I meant was the Majority of those living in high problem Rural Areas are BLACK.

[Radaney]

US also has the highest maternal death rate out of the wealthy nations.

i.e US healthcare system is abysmally shit.

I mean it's the greatest nation etc. etc. <insert patriotic propaganda indoctrination frothing at the mouth dribble fest here>

[szechuan]

US also has the highest maternal death rate out of the wealthy nations.

i.e US healthcare system is abysmally shit.

I mean it's the greatest nation etc. etc. <insert patriotic propaganda indoctrination frothing at the mouth dribble fest here>

Americans are easily Manipulated. Just look at Donald Trump.

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But... but... rampant capitalism works.

I mean we can compare it to the Socialist nations if you want Elba.

[Sargerasraider]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.e1ed06b0239c



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.e1ed06b0239c

Crazy.
This should be a front and center topic and instead we got the elites in Washington cutting taxes for the rich and spending even more on the military.
If we can't even provide adequate healthcare for newborns then what are we doing.

As noted in the article, this is clearly related to increased rates of prematurity, not subpar childhood medical care. Virtually all children in poverty in the US qualify for Medicaid. Both maternal and childhood outcomes are strongly linked to maternal obesity, diabetes, substance abuse, all of which are substantially on the rise in the US compared with other wealthy countries.

The fact that ultimate health outcomes are worse in unhealthy people who engage in unhealthy lifestyle choices is obvious.

I mean we can compare it to the Socialist nations if you want Elba.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-starving.html

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If you're a man probably. Also not gay, and believe in Allah and the prophet Muhammad. Then you'd be good to go.

Of course, and that is what you think, because the media told you so.

America has great brainwashing and advertisement.

[Deathcries]

Of course, and that is what you think, because the media told you so.

America has great brainwashing and advertisement.

Send me a picture of you wandering around in a middle eastern country, because you feel safer there. lol.

However we both know that will never happen. Only picture we'd have would be you on your knees with an orange jump suit on getting ready to get your head whacked off.

[oxymoronic]

I mam not sure what you are talking about but we are talking about death of pregnant women and young children due to lack of health care. I am not sure what this has to do with anything other than our abysmal failing health care system which is failing those less fortunate even more as more people move to cities. Black people or fatherlessness has nothing to do with countless hospitals closing their maternal / children unit or closing altogether.

Texas has a 12% black population and it's the #1 state when it comes to maternal deaths almost as bad as Mexico. So health care not race feel free to make a race thread if that is the argument you seek.

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The poverty rate among African Americans is high so it will affect them more but the US has one of the highest childhood poverty rates in the developed world. From pregnancy death rates to after they are born poor people are at high risk of dying. The argument can be made that they shouldn't have children but unless we plan to sterilize them all it's a health care issue the US needs to address. This is why we need major health care reform and the answer is not more money but reform because we are spending the money it's just going to the wrong people (rich corporate CEOs).

lmao he quotes texas,... and guess what texas is filled with? the fattest people in the world. you dont think that translates? w/e lets not make it a race issue, when it clearly is a race issue. find me the numbers of asians/whites then find me the numbers of blacks/hispanics/latinos child birth deaths. TELL ME IT AINT A RACE ISSUE. only to a warped mind that refuses to see the evidence.

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Of course, and that is what you think, because the media told you so.

America has great brainwashing and advertisement.

did you just say arab nations are great and usa media is the reason why people dont think so? i like you, you special.

[Draco-Onis]

lmao he quotes texas,... and guess what texas is filled with? the fattest people in the world. you dont think that translates? w/e lets not make it a race issue, when it clearly is a race issue. find me the numbers of asians/whites then find me the numbers of blacks/hispanics/latinos child birth deaths. TELL ME IT AINT A RACE ISSUE. only to a warped mind that refuses to see the evidence.

Texas is over 70% white in contrast New York is 44% white and has significantly lower numbers. AGAIN THIS ISN'T ABOUT RACE I know you want it to be so badly but it is about health care the numbers don't support your race angle.

[oxymoronic]

Texas is over 70% white in contrast New York is 44% white and has significantly lower numbers. AGAIN THIS ISN'T ABOUT RACE I know you want it to be so badly but it is about health care the numbers don't support your race angle.

yes them white hispanics (that are brown as fuck), i know all about it.

have you ever been to texas? ive been to el paso a few times...

[szechuan]

I mean we can compare it to the Socialist nations if you want Elba.

Too late americans know how Socialist England is.

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did you just say arab nations are great and usa media is the reason why people dont think so? i like you, you special.

No I didn't. The original quote was "some Arab countries". Thusly implying, not all of them. However, I forgive you for your ignorance. Some people are less fortunate.

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Send me a picture of you wandering around in a middle eastern country, because you feel safer there. lol.

However we both know that will never happen. Only picture we'd have would be you on your knees with an orange jump suit on getting ready to get your head whacked off.

If that is what you actually believe happens to people that go to the middle east then your countrie's media sure as hell won over you.

And yes, it won't happen. I don't like traveling and if I ever would there are some places I am simply not interested in visiting because of the countries huge flaws. Some of those are Arab countries, one is the US.

[cparle87]

If you believe that is ALL Arab countries you have not been properly educated.

Considering Arab countries are all Muslim-domination and Muslims are always for adding Sharia into secular law I'd say my statement stands.

[Draco-Onis]

yes them white hispanics (that are brown as fuck), i know all about it.

have you ever been to texas? ive been to el paso a few times...

New York has twice the black population of Texas keep trying to make it about race.

[oxymoronic]

New York has twice the black population of Texas keep trying to make it about race.

not quite. new york is about 18% black, while texas is about 12%. 50% more is not twice...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Texas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogr...w_York_(state)

unless you mean the city in which i could cherry pick a city in texas with a better black % im sure....

then you have this factor in 2005. 13% hispanic in NY while 34% hispanic in Texas. that more then makes up for the little 6% difference in black population.

wish people would educate themselves better instead of listening to talking points cause it feels good. we have to stop doing what feels good and do the right thing. the right thing here is singling out the high risk groups and educating them. if you cant even do that then you refuse to help. quit being part of the problem.

[Draco-Onis]

not quite. new york is about 18% black, while texas is about 12%. 50% more is not twice...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Texas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogr...w_York_(state)

unless you mean the city in which i could cherry pick a city in texas with a better black % im sure....

then you have this factor in 2005. 13% hispanic in NY while 34% hispanic in Texas. that more then makes up for the little 6% difference in black population.

wish people would educate themselves better instead of listening to talking points cause it feels good. we have to stop doing what feels good and do the right thing. the right thing here is singling out the high risk groups and educating them. if you cant even do that then you refuse to help. quit being part of the problem.

My error 6% then please explain the discrepancy you just shifted to this is about black people to Hispanics in case you haven't noticed. Texas is the one with the worse stats you can compare it to any number of states the difference is not race.