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    Shame that the ones that's been doing the heavy fighting and been the best fighting force against isis is now getting fucked over, what have turkey done to fight isis? other then going in when isis where at their weakest of course.

    Same with Kirkuk that the iraqis fled at first sight of fighting like alot of other places and that the kurds captured back and defended multiple times from isis lost it to the iraqis when isis where gone.
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    Reminder that Erdogan is an genocide-denying authoritarian dickbag, soon to be an genocidal authoritarian dickbag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caervek View Post
    Because it's a different situation.

    Turkey shooting down a plane that would have been due for replacement soon anyway and killing a couple of low end pilots isn't really something worth shitting the bed over, especially when it buys you political capital. Turkey invading your ally and assisting the extremists you're fighting to attack an allied group of yours and your allies, that's another matter entirely.
    You don't know Russians, like at all. If you think they will forgot because some "old plane shot with low end pilots", you are gravely mistaken. The fuckers already "mistakenly" bombed a Turkish post, killing three Turkish soldiers back in Al-bab operation.

    We shouldn't count on Russia too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctd123 View Post
    This is a political move by the Turkish government (think Grenada Reagan). This is a face saving slaughter after the Turks have been so badly defeated in Syria.
    Where was exactly Turkish army "so badly defeated" in Syria?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ParanoiD84 View Post
    Shame that the ones that's been doing the heavy fighting and been the best fighting force against isis is now getting fucked over, what have turkey done to fight isis? other then going in when isis where at their weakest of course.

    Same with Kirkuk that the iraqis fled at first sight of fighting like alot of other places and that the kurds captured back and defended multiple times from isis lost it to the iraqis when isis where gone.
    Oh it's worse than that. Turkey was caught red handed buying oil from isis http://observer.com/2016/02/deal-wit...tolen-oil/amp/

    Soon afterwards the supposed isis terror attacks happened. Even though isis who would claim a fart if it gave them attention, never claimed any of the attacks. Erdo is not our ally.

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    You don't know Russians, like at all. If you think they will forgot because some "old plane shot with low end pilots", you are gravely mistaken. The fuckers already "mistakenly" bombed a Turkish post, killing three Turkish soldiers back in Al-bab operation.

    We shouldn't count on Russia too much.
    U have no right to be in Syria in the first place so fuck your soldiers.

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    Turkey proving to be the bad guys invading another country which has already seen more war recently than 90's Iraq under the preface of hunting down "terrorists" (read: Kurdish faction).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeones View Post
    We have never defended the kurds the way they deserve.

    It's not going to be the issue you think it will, especially with a president like Trump who loves authoritarians.
    Random brainfart detected.

    I like how no one addresses these random statements that just go like that.


    "blabla blaaaa, especially with a president like Macron who enjoys anal sex with men, especially if their shlongs are thick!"

    Theres no difference betwen what this guy said and what i said in terms of truth or arguments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ynnady View Post
    Random brainfart detected.

    I like how no one addresses these random statements that just go like that.


    "blabla blaaaa, especially with a president like Macron who enjoys anal sex with men, especially if their shlongs are thick!"

    Theres no difference betwen what this guy said and what i said in terms of truth or arguments.
    Are you being even half serious?

    You forgot the /s for sarcasm.

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    I guess the kurds know by now that you cant trust yanks.

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    Germany is upset that Turkey is using German-made tanks in their offensive war and may withhold a planned anti-explosive ordinance upgrade to them.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42795943
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glnger View Post
    Germany is upset that Turkey is using German-made tanks in their offensive war and may withhold a planned anti-explosive ordinance upgrade to them.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42795943
    Sounds more like few edgy parliamentarians asking a personal request.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Do you have any facts of your own? Cause I cannot find links suggesting the Afrin canton as anything other than a Kurdish majority region
    http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/p...ional-strategy
    Looks like I was wrong. I think I confused the regions.

    Anyway, Kurds can not form little cantons just because they compose the majority in a particular town. Especially not near Turkish border, considering it's a serious security risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuntantee View Post
    Looks like I was wrong. I think I confused the regions.

    Anyway, Kurds can not form little cantons just because they compose the majority in a particular town. Especially not near Turkish border, considering it's a serious security risk.
    Afrin has been one of the most stable places since the start of the civil war. The Turks and thier jihadi proxies have gone there simply to slaughter kurds, Erodgan is doing it for domestic political reasons.

    https://twitter.com/abdbozkurt/statu...54913118175232

    What a fucking tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zmp View Post
    I guess the kurds know by now that you cant trust yanks.
    They can count on Europe doing absolutely fucking nothing, too.
    Populists (and "national socialists") look at the supposedly secret deals that run the world "behind the scenes". Child's play. Except that childishness is sinister in adults.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuntantee View Post
    Sounds more like few edgy parliamentarians asking a personal request.
    from the article:

    Norbert Röttgen, a member of Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democratic Union (CDU) party and chairman of the parliamentary foreign affairs committee, said it was "completely obvious" that Germany should not provide the upgrades.

    reals before feels bro.
    It's been a while actually since I've received a message from scrapbot...need to drink more i guess.
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    Trump is a complete shitbag that's draining the country's coffers to stuff his own.
    It must be a day ending in Y.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glnger View Post
    from the article:

    Norbert Röttgen, a member of Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democratic Union (CDU) party and chairman of the parliamentary foreign affairs committee, said it was "completely obvious" that Germany should not provide the upgrades.
    You read what you post next time because this is exactly what I am talking about. A parliamentarian with his opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Glnger View Post
    reals before feels bro.
    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctd123 View Post
    Afrin has been one of the most stable places since the start of the civil war. The Turks and thier jihadi proxies have gone there simply to slaughter kurds, Erodgan is doing it for domestic political reasons.

    https://twitter.com/abdbozkurt/statu...54913118175232

    What a fucking tool.
    Armed Kurdish entities are a security threat to Turkey, and Turkey will act accordingly. I don't care why Erdogan does it, this was a necessity and is now in action. After Afrin is cleared from terrorist presence, Manbij should be the next target, wiping YPG from the west of Euphrates.
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    Armed Kurdish entities are a security threat to Turkey, and Turkey will act accordingly. I don't care why Erdogan does it, this was a necessity and is now in action. After Afrin is cleared from terrorist presence, Manbij should be the next target, wiping YPG from the west of Euphrates.
    Ah the Israeli 'threat' defense. Can't remember when kurds from afrin shelled turkey, how many times has it happened?

    Manbij is SDF.

    You want to Turks to install thier jihadis in the area and massacre kurds. Grey Wolves like you are grim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctd123 View Post
    Ah the Israeli 'threat' defense. Can't remember when kurds from afrin shelled turkey, how many times has it happened?

    Manbij is SDF.

    You want to Turks to install thier jihadis in the area and massacre kurds. Grey Wolves like you are grim.


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    Why does turkey hate the kurds?

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