Polar bears 'running out of food'

[Ghostpanther]

"Everything is fine, they just have a diminishing habitable environment and dwindling food sources, nothing to see here!!"

That is not what I am saying. I did mention the Ocean, which is a very important part of our environment. :P

[Ripster42]

There is more of them now than there were 40 years ago according to that article. And are not in danger of threatened or extinction. I think their real threat is a lack of enough food due to pollution and over fishing. Seals and other sea life the bears feed on, need fish to also feed on and thrive. We should be looking at the damage we are doing to our Oceans.

Their habitat is being destroyed. Your article doesn't dispute this. It reinforces it. Misrepresenting articles just makes you look bad.

[Ghostpanther]

Their habitat is being destroyed. Your article doesn't dispute this. It reinforces it. Misrepresenting articles just makes you look bad.

And why should I be concerned what some on a gaming forum think of me? lol! I can honestly say, I do not give a shit what you think of me.

[PC2]

"Everything is fine, they just have a diminishing habitable environment and dwindling food sources, nothing to see here!!"

We can't save every endangered species so there has to be a prioritization of which ones are more important. I'm not sure if polar bears make the top 10.

[Ghostpanther]

Considering their population is rising, its comprehensible an increasing on competition for food. Specially if you consider how harsh their habitat is.

Exactly. They need a certain amount of prey population in order to match their numbers.

[Orby]

God damn not the polar bears. They are the best bears.

Well if all else fails we could integrate them into our society. Before long they'll take over and demand justice

I know how this works out, I've seen We Bare Bears :P

[Tiwack]

Ship em some penguins?

Our competition with each other doomed this planet long ago. To Mars!

[Venant]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-42909866

For the Animal Fans

The real problem is humans, and our unwillingness to allow humans to be eaten by apex predators. Just look at the Grizzly bear, they used to be all over the place but now they are limited to remote areas away from where human beings live. Isn't it highly unethical that we have disrupted nature in this manner? Shouldn't we try to encourage the spread of Apex predators like the Polar Bear, the Kodiac Mountain Bear and the Grizzly Bear, even if it means one of these bears might eat a few dozen human beings each year?

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Ship em some penguins?

Our competition with each other doomed this planet long ago. To Mars!

Or just start letting them eat humans. No more banding together and driving out apex predators.

[breadisfunny]

We can't save every endangered species so there has to be a prioritization of which ones are more important. I'm not sure if polar bears make the top 10.

not sure if serious or.....

[Vankrys]

not sure if serious or.....

he's right though. We would want to save them all, we probably can't. Time and money is insufficient.

Take the example of the panda bear, very popular species in china (and the world) and tons of effort are made towards its conservation. It's even the mascotte of the WWF organisation. Panda however isn't important to the echo system like some other endangered species are, panda requires tons of bamboo as food and given the shrinkage of bamboo forest, it's difficult obstacle and finally panda reproduction cycle is, well, very very slow.

What panda has to keep the species alive is that he is cute. His cuteness is essentially his only saving grace. Other species with far more utility to the echo system of the planet have and will go extinct, because they are not "cute enough".

[Sykol]

Maybe they shouldn't have over-hunted and fished, and instead made plans for longevity rather than hoped for intervention from another species when the going got tough. Stupid bears.

[Vankrys]

Maybe they shouldn't have over-hunted and fished, and instead made plans for longevity rather than hoped for intervention from another species when the going got tough. Stupid bears.

pretty sure it's a joke, but yeah, bears are stupid, they aren't capable of higher thinking, they're wild beast.

[Super Kami Dende]

Well big parts of Europe are turning to or have turned to green energy, but China and the US, not so much.
So I guess you are right

Incorrect, China has actually been turning to Green Energy in rates higher than most countries in the World. They have some of the most expansive Solar Energy production and use in the World.

[Vankrys]

Incorrect, China has actually been turning to Green Energy in rates higher than most countries in the World. They have some of the most expansive Solar Energy production and use in the World.

The US needs to change politics quick if they want to leads that industry, rather than follow. Which probably means changing president, so not for at least 3 more years.

[Super Kami Dende]

Considering their population is rising, its comprehensible an increasing on competition for food. Specially if you consider how harsh their habitat is.

This is also a point that people miss. People are all to ready to see something happening and extrapolate that there is one and only 1 issue affecting a situation without looking at the issue from many points of view.

Are their habitats diminishing? Somewhat yes. Is it the be all and end all reason for this outcome we are seeing? No. Not by a long shot.

If people continue to neglect all angles and points of correlation, then all you get left with is idiots that focus all their attention of one point and disregard the rest and then wonder why when they think they solved their "main issue" that problems still continue unabated.

Take the Wage Gap for instance. Idiots are so determined that it is because "Muh sexism" that they completely disregard the 100's if not 1000's of other factors that go into something like it.

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The US needs to change politics quick if they want to leads that industry, rather than follow. Which probably means changing president, so not for at least 3 more years.

China has been expanding in the Solar Energy Market for Years. My previous Job I dealt with China and it's Solar Production extensively, long before Trump was even a thought when it came to politics, It's nothing to do with the President of the US, as for the previous 8 years before Trump there was apparently a President of a party that was meant to care about these types of Issues and even then nothing was done. So don't be one of those delusional people that think that it has anything to do with the current administration vs the last.

[Vankrys]

China has been expanding in the Solar Energy Market for Years. My previous Job I dealt with China and it's Solar Production extensively, long before Trump was even a thought when it came to politics, It's nothing to do with the President of the US, as for the previous 8 years before Trump there was apparently a President of a party that was meant to care about these types of Issues and even then nothing was done. So don't be one of those delusional people that think that it has anything to do with the current administration vs the last.

Be that as it may, it's never too late to start, unless you don't start at all.

I didn't say the previous administration did the right thing to favor green energy, what i say is that Trump administration clearly is not pushing green energy, and in order to take the scientific and technology lead in the future, the US will have to change their attitude towards it. Which certainly means changing president.

Again, even if the next president is democrat, perhaps he too will continue to denigrate green energy, but if the next president is Trump, this is a 100% guaranty things won't change.

[Allerius]

99% of species in Earth's history have gone extinct. As far as impacts of climate change this registers a cool 0 on the giving a fucks meter.

[Mormolyce]

There is more of them now than there were 40 years ago according to that article. And are not in danger of threatened or extinction.

[Vankrys]

99% of species in Earth's history have gone extinct. As far as impacts of climate change this registers a cool 0 on the giving a fucks meter.

You know, this is a position i can actually understand. It's a bit selfish, but otherwise understandable and somewhat human nature.

Human made climate change deniers are just completely dishonest at this point, the exceedingly vast majority of scientists and experts agree it's real and happening. However, when someone says something like "maybe so, but i don't care", at least that person is honest.

[PC2]

What's your point? A population can increase over a 40 year period but decrease over the last couple years.