Active shooter situation at Florida high school, at least 20 injured so far

[Archon14]

Let's make it about race...because that just helps the thread along.

Come on, you know it's a race/religion war as soon as they identify the shooter.

[Moadar]

Whos talking about burglars? We are talking about some angry kid who has just shot up a school! Of course safes aint gonna deter some safe cracker but it might deter your son who is angry that his crush rejected him and doesnt know the combination to your safe!

You don't need to be a safe cracker. If you can get a pry bar or large screw driver you can get the gun. If you are hellbent on murder then I am pretty sure you are willing to pry something for 2 minutes.

[yetgdhfgh]

You don't need to be a safe cracker. If you can get a pry bar or large screw driver you can get the gun. If you are hellbent on murder then I am pretty sure you are willing to pry something for 2 minutes.

If you can pry bar a safe then you clearly have bought it from ACME or Walmart and not from any reputable Gun store that sells gun storage safes.

Its cavalier attitudes towards gun safety that puts us real gun owners in a bad light and will lead to draconian gun laws.

I gave you 4 very reasonable ideas for laws and you immediately shit on it like i was someone out to steal your guns even though i own them!!.

[IIamaKing]

It is very hard to discuss at all when apparently the only thing we are allowed to talk about is the death count.

Want to talk gun control ideas, there is a thread for that. A big one, where all the ideas and refutations have been echoed back and forth.

Yes it happens all to frequently, yes the hallow "thoughts and prayers" are meaningless. But there are details of the specific event to discuss, even if they are of no interest to you. All you do is derail the thread with Gun Control talk, go to the thread for GC talk if thats all you have to say about the event.

And if you recall, we have had a fairly reasonable discussion on this topic and we, largely, agree.

[Cruor]

Let's imagine for a moment that the amount of shooting deaths goes up 10x in the USA. Doesn't matter. You will not take our guns. Ever. And if they try, it will make the situation much worse.

[Dextroden]

Let's make it about race...because that just helps the thread along.

That's been the political theme in the past years. How dare you complain about people crowbaring in useless statements that points out their racism?

[Deleted]

Nicolas Cruz.

[Mafic]

Not a current student.

Ties to gun groups and syrian resistance. Found off camp in Coral Springs?

[Skalm]

If you can pry bar a safe then you clearly have bought it from ACME or Walmart and not from any reputable Gun store that sells gun storage safes.

True, but then again, there is no such thing as a thief proof safe. The only difference is what the time/tool requirements are to get in said safe.

[Moadar]

If you can pry bar a safe then you clearly have bought it from ACME or Walmart and not from any reputable Gun store that sells gun storage safes.

Wanna bet? How about a $4000 liberty safe that can be pried open in ten minutes? Also none of these are actual safes. They don't meet the minimum requirement to qualify for one under insurance terms.

http://gunsafereviewsguy.com/article...ft-protection/

[Wilfire]

If every student and teacher was armed with a 12 gauge for self defense, this wouldn't have happened. We need more guns not less.

[chazus]

I wish we could make a statement to tell the people "America get your shit together" to please keep it to yourself. Americans are sick and tired of it, a hell of a lot more than people elsewhere in the world are. All you have to do is sit and watch. We have to live it. We don't like it, and there is plenty of force at hand pushing back... However there is too much money and politics in hand to fix it quickly.

Either donate to causes, send your condolences, or shut it. Simply telling american's to 'get it together' does nothing but insult us, and makes you look foolish.

[DarkAmbient]

Nice hat https://www.instagram.com/nikolascruzmakarov/

[Dextroden]

Want to talk gun control ideas, there is a thread for that. A big one, where all the ideas and refutations have been echoed back and forth.

Yes it happens all to frequently, yes the hallow "thoughts and prayers" are meaningless. But there are details of the specific event to discuss, even if they are of no interest to you. All you do is derail the thread with Gun Control talk, go to the thread for GC talk if thats all you have to say about the event.

And if you recall, we have had a fairly reasonable discussion on this topic and we, largely, agree.

The gun control thread isn't about calling Americans stupid and violent, however. So, that's why he's here and not there.

[yetgdhfgh]

True, but then again, there is no such thing as a thief proof safe. The only difference is what the time/tool requirements are to get in said safe.

Which might be enough time to catch your son or daughter from doing it!

[MikeBogina]

seems some people think this is inappropriate of her

[Barnabas]

So this was a former student. A teacher flunked him?

[Mafic]

Gym teacher is being called a hero as he save students jumping in front of gunfire that was targeted at students.

[Dextroden]

Ahh, ok I see what your saying...

Yes, I agree, if the EU needs to get used to terrorist attacks, the US should get used to mass shootings.

I'm just enjoying the tone deafness and mod allowed nation bashing.

[Skalm]

Which might be enough time to catch your son or daughter from doing it!

Exactly!

And all Safes should be required by law to have tamper mechanisms in them that send out an alert (email, phone, whatever) sayin' 'hey someone is fucking with your safe!'.