Active shooter situation at Florida high school, at least 20 injured so far

[bash the fash]

You're probably 10,000 more times likely to have your child die in a car wreck then them being involved in a school mass shooting. God damn you fuckers are hysterical.

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Well I'm obviously a coward as was told earlier. Keep up the good fight with ad hominems. You're winning!

#useemotionsnotactions!

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How much did that guy in France in Nice? What about the guy in New York who ran over all those people. Glad you can pick one small random one.

Since you're taking this absurd argument and running with it -

How many hours of Gun Training were you legally obligated to take before getting a gun? Were you required to take a test with a certified Gun Instructor to buy your gun? Are you required to carry liability insurance in case you shoot somebody with your gun? If you fail to adhere to an entire Gun Code that limits the manner in whch you safely use the gun, will you receive fines and/or prison time? Do you have to take additional training courses to own more guns with more firepower than a handgun? Are you forced to have your gun inspected regularly to make sure it's safe to use, and you are still qualified to be using it? Can you be barred from owning a gun because of impairments that would affect your ability to safely use the weapon and follow the Gun Code? Are you liable to have your gun inspected and your adherence to this Gun Code enforced effectively and vigilantly every time you walk out the door? Do you face very steep, life-changing penalties if you ever carry a gun while intoxicated, mentally ill, or otherwise impaired from practical and effective use of the weapon?

It is not a matter in controversy among actual researchers; more guns means more suicides and homicides. The same cannot be said for vehicles. Stop distracting from the actual problem and drawing false equivalencies. This is not a matter of your whacky logic; it's hard fact.

[Deathcries]

290 school shootings since 2013 in the US. It can be fixed quickly. There are simply too many dumbass Americans that do not care enough about it because "mah rights". Sitting around and sending best wishes and shit is nothing but hot air. I am American, and frankly the fact that we have done nothing to curb this nonsense is asinine. We should "get our shit together". We do not get to be world police and then get upset when those outside the US raise a fuss about major problems we have.

If we can abort innocent babies then I can pretty much guarantee you there won't be any gun control. Shit works both way, though we think differently on both subjects I just brought up. In the end it's about desensitization. We've done a good job of that here in America.

[Ghostpanther]

The Nice attack used a 19t cargo truck - you could absolutely ban those in crowded areas, many places do so.

New York attack was a pickup truck and he only got 8 people.

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Breivik? He killed 77, using guns... how does that help your point?

Ok 77. I did say I could not remember the actual number. Maybe it was 160 injured? Or maybe I am thinking of the 160+ who were killed in the Oklahoma bombing.

The point is, the US is not alone when it comes to some radicals killing a lot of people. Ether with guns or bombs, trucks, cars, etc. Sure one can bring up charts and data. But do those really make a victim or the loved ones of such feel any better?

[Deathcries]

And yet more people thought he wasn't qualified... It's almost like you have no idea what I'm going to say! *gasp*

Mainly just California. That's what gave Hillary the popular vote. There was a chart where the vote for her in Southern California was insane. Too bad our general election isn't controlled by California though am I right? lol

[Nazrark]

This is clearly a "Thoughts and Prayers" issue. We didn't get enough T&P from the last shooting so it has to happen again until we get enough T&P to make it go away.

Also, good luck to anyone who thinks this will change in the next couple of years.

It's awful that I am making light of a really bad situation. But it is clear that a subsect of your elected leaders said they are completely fine with the ritual sacrifice of dozens of people every few weeks.

[Deathcries]

Ok 77. I did say I could not remember the actual number. Maybe it was 160 injured? Or maybe I am thinking of the 160+ who were killed in the Oklahoma bombing.

The point is, the US is not alone when it comes to some radicals killing a lot of people. Ether with guns or bombs, trucks, cars, etc. Sure one can bring up charts and data. But do those really make a victim or the loved ones of such feel any better?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_attack

The Nice attack killed 86 people. Injured 458. Mormolyce is trying to fudge the numbers.

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No, but actually doing something to address the problem might keep some families from feeling the same way...

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Not mainly just California. Nice attempt at spin though.

If you take California out of the equation Trump stomped a fucking mud hole in Clintons ass. It wouldn't have been even close.

[Ghostpanther]

There's a big difference between concealed carry and armed guards with assault rifles. You get that, right?

Of course. But I still stand by having metal detectors and armed guards at the schools. You oppose it. Fine. Many churches have implemented better security ( some armed ) since the church shooting in Texas. Which I think is smart.

[Ghostpanther]

What action was taken after the vegas shooting?

One state did ban Bump Stocks. Mass. Which I am not opposed to.

[Travis B]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_attack

The Nice attack killed 86 people. Injured 458. Mormolyce is trying to fudge the numbers.

Ghostpanther and Mormolyce were talking about the Norway attack, not Nice. Learn to read.

If you take California out of the equation Trump stomped a fucking mud hole in Clintons ass. It wouldn't have been even close.

And if your aunt had balls, she'd be your uncle. The fuck is your point?

[yetgdhfgh]

Well the St Valentines day massacre will no longer mean the gangland war in 1920/1930s Chicago from now on!!

[Mormolyce]

Ok 77. I did say I could not remember the actual number. Maybe it was 160 injured? Or maybe I am thinking of the 160+ who were killed in the Oklahoma bombing.

The point is, the US is not alone when it comes to some radicals killing a lot of people. Ether with guns or bombs, trucks, cars, etc. Sure one can bring up charts and data. But do those really make a victim or the loved ones of such feel any better?

That's a real interesting thing you're saying that has nothing to do with what the two of us are talking about.

We were talking about guns vs. car attacks. You should probably apologise to Deathcries for undermining his argument.

[Ghostpanther]

That's nice that you think it's smart. I think it's a waste of money that could be better used in other areas.

I do not think it is the only solution however.

[bash the fash]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_attack

The Nice attack killed 86 people. Injured 458. Mormolyce is trying to fudge the numbers.

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If you take California out of the equation Trump stomped a fucking mud hole in Clintons ass. It wouldn't have been even close.

Trump very narrowly won several key states - most of which, surprise surprise, were controlled in the legislature and the governor's mansion, by Republicans, who took the opportunity to pass sweeping voter suppression legislation to negatively impact voter turnout for minorities, the poor, and the elderly - all groups that traditionally turn out for Democratic candidates.

Also, as an added fuck you, several of these laws were in the process of being constitutionally challenged at the time of the election - but of course because they were on the books, and with the confusion their initial passage created, they stood on election day. Pretty great swindle they pulled, all told.

Nobody likes your favorite idiot. It's okay to accept it.

[Deathcries]

That he doesn't have any good points.

Sounds like you guys are jerking each other off. Enjoy not getting what you want, and bitching about your feelings on a gaming site.

[Ghostpanther]

That's a real interesting thing you're saying that has nothing to do with what the two of us are talking about.

We were talking about guns vs. car attacks. You should probably apologise to Deathcries for undermining his argument.

None needed. He understood.

[Deathcries]

Trump very narrowly won several key states - most of which, surprise surprise, were controlled in the legislature and the governor's mansion, by Republicans, who took the opportunity to pass sweeping voter suppression legislation to negatively impact voter turnout for minorities, the poor, and the elderly - all groups that traditionally turn out for Democratic candidates.

Nobody likes your favorite idiot. It's okay to accept it.

Oh man you showed me. Keep resisting. It makes you look so stronk! lol

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None needed. He understood.

I understand you completely. Enjoy the jerk off fest. You're going to get a lot accomplished. I can feel it. 2018 should be hysterical, i'm looking forward to seeing MMO-C's reactions.

[Zaydin]

And if your aunt had balls, she'd be your uncle. The fuck is your point?

It always strikes me as weird that conservatives constantly try to discount the countries most heavily populated state.

California alone has more people living in it than a lot of the empty states that make up the Midwest that all went for Trump.

They constantly whine about 'coastal elites' dictating things to them. Well guess what? Most of the countries population lives on the coasts. Why should the majority have to let the minority in the center of the country dictate things to us?

[Tiwack]

RIP

You can sleep with a gun
but when are you gonna wake up and fight?

[Ghostpanther]

I get that, but again, my comment was towards another user saying “Let's all pretend we're real sad”. I mentioned why I’m not pretending.

It is a sad tragic event when a loved one dies from such a cowardly act of another. It would not be less sad if the victim was only one. There are ways to help prevent it. Ignoring it and doing nothing is not going to help. I think even most gun owners and Second Amendment supporters would agree with that.

[Stormspellz]

Awesome. Start a forum where nation bashing isn't supposed to be banned and go nuts.

Or continue here because the rules are inconsistent.

Being critical and bashing are two different things.