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  1. #521
    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    This has nothing to do with either... Nobody is stopping you watching porn unless you're under 18
    And I'm not a fan of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missed View Post
    Ah well then. Time to brush off some pdfs:


    In regards to sexual behaviour:

    Sexual aggression

    Effect on self confidence:

    Social development:

    CONCLUSION

    There's more in it if you want.
    Read the conclusion if you don't have time.
    It reads like a load of proregressive garbage from those sort of countries.

    The conclusions it comes to could easily be reversed like the point about aggression.

    In addition, the authors also found a relationship
    between adolescent exposure to sexually explicit material and less progres-
    sive gender role attitudes
    for both males and females.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnusthegreat View Post
    And I'm not a fan of that.
    So you think kids should have access to it. That's sick!

  4. #524
    Quote Originally Posted by Tennis View Post
    So you think kids should have access to it. That's sick!
    It seems you have an opinion.

  5. #525
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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    This has nothing to do with either... Nobody is stopping you watching porn unless you're under 18
    The state is and theyre trying to impose widescale censorship elsewhere.

  6. #526
    Lots of youngins in this thread that think they are going to be the bestest, coolest parents in the whole wide world or something for letting their kids watch porn, jesus christ.
    "Lack of information on your part does not constitute bias on mine."


  7. #527
    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    A functional solution would involve teaching them "what's what", not engaging on a quixotic, vexatious, and futile crusade to attempt to block pornography.
    Totally reasonable and sound move.

    But again, this a government, not a rational group of thinking individuals.

  8. #528
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivank0v View Post
    Totally reasonable and sound move.

    But again, this a government, not a rational group of thinking individuals.
    There's a South Park episode on this. You can't teach kids what's what, when what include double ass fisting, piss drinking and incest.

  9. #529
    Quote Originally Posted by Krigaren View Post
    Lots of youngins in this thread that think they are going to be the bestest, coolest parents in the whole wide world or something for letting their kids watch porn, jesus christ.
    Nobody thinks that, but people recognize that teenagers will watch porn and the desire to indulge in sexually explicit material is only natural at sexual maturity.

    Nobody here is going to buy their teen son pornos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missed View Post
    There's a South Park episode on this. You can't teach kids what's what, when what include double ass fisting, piss drinking and incest.
    How many teenagers even want to fist someone, drink piss or have incestuous sex? I never never thought of those things and no female sexual partners in high school we're interested in that stuff.

  10. #530
    Quote Originally Posted by Atethecat View Post
    Nobody thinks that, but people recognize that teenagers will watch porn and the desire to indulge in sexually explicit material is only natural at sexual maturity.

    Nobody here is going to buy their teen son pornos.
    If the outrage is that the UK is making it difficult for teens to access porn, that shows a tacit understanding and approval of teens currently having access to it. That's materially the same as people advocating to buy porn for their kids, since that's essentially what they're doing by giving their kids devices that can be used to watch porn with no supervision or content limitations.

    At that point, may as well buy porn for your kids directly, so that you at least know what they're watching.

    Also, the "they're gonna do it anyway" argument is such shit I don't even know where to begin. Yeah, kids are still going to try to do a lot of things you probably don't want them to do, but that doesn't mean that you should just let them. That's beyond bad parenting.
    "Lack of information on your part does not constitute bias on mine."


  11. #531
    I'm still not sure how people are harmed by porn. We've been consuming it as kids for ages, before the internet is was dirty mags. After this block it'll be proxy's....why is this such a big deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krigaren View Post
    At that point, may as well buy porn for your kids directly, so that you at least know what they're watching.
    Why should you care what they're watching? Teens watch porn, it's not a problem, unless your the government or conservative in which case you perceive a problem where none exists.

  12. #532
    Quote Originally Posted by Krigaren View Post
    Also, the "they're gonna do it anyway" argument is such shit I don't even know where to begin. Yeah, kids are still going to try to do a lot of things you probably don't want them to do, but that doesn't mean that you should just let them. That's beyond bad parenting.
    It may not be the best option, but it's sure than hell better than trying to suppress it. Take teen sex, for example, teaching teens to practice safe sex is an objectively superior alternate to teaching abstinence. The ability for teenagers to access condoms and contraceptives and a better sex education is why teen pregnancies are the lowest they have been in decades.

    Now it's undeniable that porn can be addicting and can lead to false assumptions and high expectations of one's sexual partner, but attempting to aggressively enforce a ban on it for 15-16-17 years olds (many of which are already in sexual relationships) won't solve these problems, at least long term. They will simply find a way around it or find a proxy, just like with what happened with prohibition in the 1920s and the War on Drugs.

    You stop these issues through education and dialogue. Now does the latter mean they should be handed pornos by their parents? No, but they should educated by their parents, health teacher or doctor (if they would rather not talk to the latter and would not like to have their information disclosed to their parents).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnusthegreat View Post
    And I'm not a fan of that.
    Then why aren't you kicking off about how it's already illegal everywhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffyman View Post
    The state is and theyre trying to impose widescale censorship elsewhere.
    It's already illegal for under 18s to view porn

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    It's already illegal for under 18s to view porn
    Which remains an absurdity.

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    Which remains an absurdity.
    What age would you say?

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    The U.K is pretty sophisticated and what not, they don't really need that kind of smut, good for them
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    Instead of getting brexit done properly, this is what the UK focuses on... restricting access to online porn, and the majority of online porn actually goes through snapchat and instagram nowadays so how will you fix that one? Great job British lawmakers, you're all absolute twats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EUPLEB View Post
    Instead of getting brexit done properly, this is what the UK focuses on... restricting access to online porn, and the majority of online porn actually goes through snapchat and instagram nowadays so how will you fix that one? Great job British lawmakers, you're all absolute twats.
    Again different departments do different jobs. The circus I mean department about BREXIT is something independent of this

  19. #539
    Quote Originally Posted by prwraith View Post
    I'm still not sure how people are harmed by porn. We've been consuming it as kids for ages, before the internet is was dirty mags. After this block it'll be proxy's....why is this such a big deal

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    Why should you care what they're watching? Teens watch porn, it's not a problem, unless your the government or conservative in which case you perceive a problem where none exists.
    There's a study posted a page or two back that shows the why and how.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atethecat View Post
    How many teenagers even want to fist someone, drink piss or have incestuous sex? I never never thought of those things and no female sexual partners in high school we're interested in that stuff.
    If you hadn't noticed, hyperbole seems to be his/her go-to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krigaren View Post
    If the outrage is that the UK is making it difficult for teens to access porn, that shows a tacit understanding and approval of teens currently having access to it.
    I would imagine that any degree of restriction is viewed as a potential expansion on censorship which rightfully will have many people up in arms, regardless of the reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krigaren View Post
    That's materially the same as people advocating to buy porn for their kids, since that's essentially what they're doing by giving their kids devices that can be used to watch porn with no supervision or content limitations.
    Ugh, one of those... No, it's not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krigaren View Post
    Also, the "they're gonna do it anyway" argument is such shit I don't even know where to begin.
    So is the, "this is a bad argument" argument. That they'll do it anyhow isn't even an argument. It's simply a fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krigaren View Post
    That's beyond bad parenting.
    Fun fact: Most things we learn are from experience, not word of mouth. Few people will assert that fire is hot because their mom told them when they were a child. They found out by getting burned. That's not to say you should just throw porn at your teenager and see what happens, just that teenagers need a bit of leeway to experience things to fully understand them. Besides, the worst kind of parenting, outside of outright abuse, is over-protectiveness.

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