Right Wing Pundit Steven Crowder Tries to Discredit Bruce Lee

[NomCarver]

Ah these right winged political philosophers and their made up 'logic'. I wish we were all as enlightened as them!

[PosPosPos]

Actually, while on Joe Rogans podcast he said the reason he did that is because he didn't want to fight an old guy. Look at the size difference, only a dickhead woul actually fight back in a situation like that

One can say anything after the fact they just got whopped like a pansy.

[Machismo]

Actually, while on Joe Rogans podcast he said the reason he did that is because he didn't want to fight an old guy. Look at the size difference, only a dickhead woul actually fight back in a situation like that

It looks like he got his ass kicked to me.

[Thage]

Today I learned people actually take Crowder seriously. I guess TMZ has its true believers, too, so I shouldn't be TOO surprised...

[szechuan]

"His main Claim is There's no Proof when the fact isthere's a lack of proof" So you are saying that for some things there is no proof. As that is what a lack of proof denotes.

"No Proof" is Absolute.

"Lack of Proof" isn't, there are real Credible Martial Artists that have seen Bruce fight. However these instances lack Physical Evidence.

[Rabka Uhalla]

Bruce Lee was an actor, why is that relevant, nobody including Chuck Norris would vouch for this utter BS. Bruce Lee's speed was legendary, and there are actual credible masters in various disciplines that would also back that up.

It doesn't matter what god like myths were attached to Bruce Lee, that doesn't excuse this BS hit piece by an obviously stupid man by the name of Chowder.

Look I know you're retarded and all, but I know you have at least enough brain cells to get his name right; it's Crowder, bub.

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I'm hearing a lot of opinion bias and absolutely no factual evidence, the type of conservative Crowder attracts hates Nazis, that's the whole point of his show, it's about truth and freedom - I don't know why some on the left hate that so much

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I keep forgetting MMOchamp is a cesspool of left-wing, emotion over fact people who are salty about everything they don't like.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Najnaj]

Martial Arts as it is understood in general is mostly nonsense. It tends to fall under some general "eastern mysticism" umbrella which is also nonsense. Brice Lee had a HUGE part in promoting this crap and build up his own little brand of self defense as it if actually allowed you to go up against 6 people with guns and knives and come out the victor.

...also, have you seen his movies? It is garbage!

[szechuan]

Martial Arts as it is understood in general is mostly nonsense.

you also do realize Wrestling, Boxing, Kickboxing are all Martial Arts right?

It tends to fall under some general "eastern mysticism" umbrella which is also nonsense. Brice Lee had a HUGE part in promoting this crap and build up his own little brand of self defense as it if actually allowed you to go up against 6 people with guns and knives and come out the victor.

Bruce was not a mystic.

[Everwake]

What does him being a "right wing pundit" have to do with anything?

[Mihalik]

The right wing circle jerk around Crowder is amazing to me.

The guy is objectively and factually wrong on nearly everything he says nearly all the time. It's just his ability to be mildly normal appearing and not being a crusty 60+ year old fat screaming lunatic (a la Alex Jones/Rush Limbaugh) makes him stand out.

But then again... we do live in the age of "fake news" flat 6000 year old earth times.

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What does him being a "right wing pundit" have to do with anything?

It's that in this day and age to be right wing essentially means you have to reject reality and substitute it with... shit pulled straight out of your ass.

I'm not saying it was always so, but it is so now.

The closest you can get to a traditional right wing intellectual these days that I can think of is Jordan Peterson, and that guy describes himself left leaning. Political alignment these days is weird.

[Everwake]

Considering Steve Chowder is a known Alt-Right White Supremacist it doesn't shock me this kind of garbage keeps him up at night to of course disparage another man of color.

Casually throwing around labels like that is problematic. It normalizes the terms and dilutes them, so that when actual white supremacists and racists are called out, no one pays attention. Every single person right of Castro has been called a white supremacist over the past year.

[meowfurion]

Martial arts as a whole are just utter nonsense.

There is no "CHI."

Everything Bruce Lee did was scripted nonsense and choreography. He was just good at it.

[Orbitus]

Steven Crowder is amazing, you're just salty cause he't not wrong

Steven Crowder is a fucking idiot.

[igualitarist]

I cant get why even this subject got politicized... Lol

[Mihalik]

Casually throwing around labels like that is problematic. It normalizes the terms and dilutes them, so that when actual white supremacists and racists are called out, no one pays attention. Every single person right of Castro has been called a white supremacist over the past year.

The problem is that people need to pick their company better. If you associate yourself with white supremacists, if you give them a platform and enable them, you get judged for the company you keep.

You might not wake up in the morning and jump up and throw up a sieg heil, but you do need to pick your associations better. Like having having a lot friends who are in the Mafia and hanging out with dudes who are in the Mafia don't make you a mobster, but they do make you someone with ties to the mob.

My ex-gf's uncle was a head honcho in the Boston Irish mob, spent years in jail for shipping tons of weed (not lbs, but tons of the stuff back in the 80's), fixing horse races, bribing politicians, blackmailing trucking companies etc. She is an English teacher living in Spain, still gets audited by the IRS every 2 years. Just in case. And I think that's just being prudent.

[igualitarist]

Martial arts as a whole are just utter nonsense.

There is no "CHI."

Everything Bruce Lee did was scripted nonsense and choreography. He was just good at it.

The fact of "chi" being a mystical concept, does not make martial arts bullshit.

I think you are watching too much cartoons and exagerated movies.

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So I came across this Video while on youtube looking for Bruce Lee

Also on a side note :I agree with Crowder that the movie he is talking about is Garbage. It's a horrible piece of garbage that misrepresents Bruce Lee. The fact that he needs to bring this up when the movie is known to be a huge misrepresentation of Bruce and was Denounced by the Lee family is just even more ridiculous. Like Picking Fights that nobody cares and trying to blow it up like it's huge news.


First myth crowder mentioned that I had an issue with due to his "facts"

Bruce Lee is the father of MMA because he was the one to inspire people through his Philosophy by telling and practicing his methods of combining arts, the one that crowder mentioned was not a philosophy but just something people did in the sports arena to survive, which was combining Boxing/Wrestling which was a Sport Although a bloody/violent/Brutal.

Other people did it to adapt Bruce Lee noticed it and also openly practiced the method of combining arts.

Crowder doesn't understand how closed door matches work. But whatever, this just goes to show how dumb Crowder is.

His main Claim is There's no Proof when the fact is there's a lack of proof to backup some of the claims because nothing was filmed or recorded. Plenty of Martial Arts masters have Private Sparring Matches this is/was a common practice in China.

But the claims of people who sparred with Bruce also do match up with his legend. Crowder not only lacks the research but he's also unfunny. Why do people trust him so much?

He's a political commentator not a martial arts expert.
I like to here his opinion on politics but just like I don't give a shit about Beyoncé's political views I don't go to this guy as a source of martial arts history. Or you for that matter because even you are wrong.

All specialised sports with strict rules be it boxing or rugby come from a more primal less ritualistic form. Boxing coming from European unarmed combat manuals of the medieval period and rugby coming from village football.

Martial arts are just the rituals and crap around how to not die when you're unarmed and you oponent wants to kill you. In that world you do what work's and fuck tradition. These masters and monks dident invent half the stuff they teach just codifyed what people were all ready doing to survive and dedicated there lives to being the best at it and teaching it.

[Krille]

My man

Anyone who doesn't like Crowder hasn't seen this video

Quite possibly the most stupid shit i have EVER seen. The song, the props, yea basically everything about that video just reeks stupid.

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Martial arts as a whole are just utter nonsense.

There is no "CHI."

Everything Bruce Lee did was scripted nonsense and choreography. He was just good at it.

Yes and no.

Chi the mystical concept in Chinese medicen no

Chi the concept of efficient kinetic energy transfer. That has science behind it.

Ask a monk why do u push that way they will say it's because of activating chi. Check with science and they show that it's the most efficient way to transfer the most kinetic energy into the target. The more kinetic energy a projectile or fist has the more damage it does.

[Tijuana]

So I came across this Video while on youtube looking for Bruce Lee

Also on a side note :I agree with Crowder that the movie he is talking about is Garbage. It's a horrible piece of garbage that misrepresents Bruce Lee. The fact that he needs to bring this up when the movie is known to be a huge misrepresentation of Bruce and was Denounced by the Lee family is just even more ridiculous. Like Picking Fights that nobody cares and trying to blow it up like it's huge news.


First myth crowder mentioned that I had an issue with due to his "facts"

Bruce Lee is the father of MMA because he was the one to inspire people through his Philosophy by telling and practicing his methods of combining arts, the one that crowder mentioned was not a philosophy but just something people did in the sports arena to survive, which was combining Boxing/Wrestling which was a Sport Although a bloody/violent/Brutal.

Other people did it to adapt Bruce Lee noticed it and also openly practiced the method of combining arts.

Crowder doesn't understand how closed door matches work. But whatever, this just goes to show how dumb Crowder is.

His main Claim is There's no Proof when the fact is there's a lack of proof to backup some of the claims because nothing was filmed or recorded. Plenty of Martial Arts masters have Private Sparring Matches this is/was a common practice in China.

But the claims of people who sparred with Bruce also do match up with his legend. Crowder not only lacks the research but he's also unfunny. Why do people trust him so much?

Thanks for fact checking YouTube for us. I will look forward to your fact checks of the rest of the internet.

It seems pretty silly to be upset that a political commentator doesn't know about MMA, but is talking about it anyway. Did you feel the same way this week, when a political commentator told an athlete to "shut up and dribble", after them talking about politics? Just curious...