Michael Moore participated in anti-Trump rally allegedly organized by Russians

[wunksta]

4th stance. Russia meddled but only to sow political discord, how much it impacted the election I feel was very little. People pretty much had their minds made up and chose to believe what fits their narrative.

So why is Trump so weak on Russia when they tried to cause problems?

[zenkai]

Two of those things are certain... with Trump's tax plan the debt will balloon faster than ever. And Russia did interfere with our election, we can debate on how much they actually influenced it. But that does not matter because Trump won't do anything about it... not even follow the bill the senate sent him.

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Obama gave away more Trillions than Trumps Tax plan ever ever lose.

[Orbitus]

Obama gave away more Trillions than Trumps Tax plan ever ever lose.

Ummm what? How and who did Obama give money to?

[Daelak]

Ummm what? How and who did Obama give money to?

The Killary Hussein liberal holdover change agent shadow government. Trump never had a chance.

[Travis B]

Wanting to swing the election in Trump's favor and wanting to sow discord and create more division are not mutually exclusive.

[zenkai]

Wanting to swing the election in Trump's favor and wanting to sow discord and create more division are not mutually exclusive.

Then why some of their rallies anti Trump and pro Hillary? Sorry but the facts do not support your opinion.

[Draco-Onis]

Then why some of their rallies anti Trump and pro Hillary? Sorry but the facts do not support your opinion.

The facts also show while they had some efforts for Hillary, Bernie Sanders, Jill Stein the vast majority of their efforts were pro Trump. I mean you are sticking to the facts right?

[Paranoid Android]

Well the Woke Independent is at it again.

If he did it is ironic and funny. As people have stated that Russia was here to created chaos and fighting in America. So yeah they organized opposing rallies, social media, etc on both sides. This still doesn't help you Trumpkins thinking that Russia was all up in Trump in helping him get elected.

[zenkai]

The facts also show while they had some efforts for Hillary, Bernie Sanders, Jill Stein the vast majority of their efforts were pro Trump. I mean you are sticking to the facts right?

No shit, they we're pro and anti to both parties to "sow political discord".

[Dsonsion]

Well the Woke Independent is at it again.

If he did it is ironic and funny. As people have stated that Russia was here to created chaos and fighting in America. So yeah they organized opposing rallies, social media, etc on both sides. This still doesn't help you Trumpkins thinking that Russia was all up in Trump in helping him get elected.

Yup. Who'd be easier to get into a polarising rally than Moore?

Then why some of their rallies anti Trump and pro Hillary? Sorry but the facts do not support your opinion.

You see, the cheapest way to generate doubt about the whole issue is to partake in a bit of radical activism from the other side, so that wishful thinkers like you would come asking just that question. Remember that Trump is throwing shit at every country on the surface of the planet whose name he can remember but one.

[Draco-Onis]

No shit, they we're pro and anti to both parties to "sow political discord".

Sow discord and elect Donald Trump.

[zenkai]

A lot of that was part of the stimulus bill(s) which were used to stop a full on depression caused by deregulation of the housing market. Bush had a hand in that, no?

And the “occupy” people on the left... including a lot of the left here was against bailing out the banks/car industry. We could have let them die, but the economy would have taken a lot longer to recover.

Trump is giving tax breaks to the top mostly. Making himself, and his friends richer.

Yeah, throwing money at the bankers that got us into this mess was a great idea. I got 150 more dollars a month in my paycheck thanks to the tax breaks, I'm pretty happy about it.

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Sow discord and elect Donald Trump.

I see you ignored the facts I provided.

[Draco-Onis]

I see you ignored the facts I provided.

You do realize they can do both right? It seems you can't understand facts.

[zenkai]

You do realize they can do both right? It seems you can't understand facts.

When you lie by omission, you lie. I guess if Hillary had won there would be no political discord, all the Republicans would be quiet about it huh?

[Draco-Onis]

When you lie by omission, you lie. I guess if Hillary had won there would be no political discord, all the Republicans would be quiet about it huh?

By your logic Fox News supports both sides because they sometimes run some negative stories about Trump. You miss the entire point the US always had political discord we are talking about what the Russians did which is sow further discord and push for Donald Trump to win the presidency those are the facts. I am sorry it's too hard of a pill for you to swallow their efforts were overwhelmingly for him since Putin hated Hillary.

[zenkai]

By your logic Fox News supports both sides because they sometimes run some negative stories about Trump. You miss the entire point the US always had political discord we are talking about what the Russians did which is sow further discord and push for Donald Trump to win the presidency those are the facts. I am sorry it's too hard of a pill for you to swallow their efforts were overwhelmingly for him since Putin hated Hillary.

You're just reaching and being dishonest in your argument now. A right leaning news station is not the same as Russia propaganda. I know facts get you angry when it's not always anti Trump but please try to look at things objectively it will make you a smarter person.

[Draco-Onis]

You're just reaching and being dishonest in your argument now. A right leaning news station is not the same as Russia propaganda. I know facts get you angry when it's not always anti Trump but please try to look at things objectively it will make you a smarter person.

Nope I am not angry my example was just a statement on your logic. You are basically stating that the fact that the Russians had some pro Hillary effort means that they couldn't have been pushing Trump.

[zenkai]

Nope I am not angry my example was just a statement on your logic. You are basically stating that the fact that the Russians had some pro Hillary effort means that they couldn't have been pushing Trump.

It is possible but they could have been pushing for Hillary as well after all they are happy with the Uranium deal. I am pointing out your opinion is not fact.

[Draco-Onis]

It is possible but they could have been pushing for Hillary as well after all they are happy with the Uranium deal. I am pointing out your opinion is not fact.

You are talking about facts then bring up the Uranium deal /facepalm.

I supposed I shouldn't not be surprised since you are overwhelmingly pro Trump yet still brandish that "independent" label.

[Paranoid Android]

Fox News has caused more political discord and hate than Russia could ever dream of.

Fox News was the gateway drug to Limbaugh and Alex Jones. Some now see Fox as not far right enough.