The US is NOT the worst country for mass shootings

[zenkai]

Asking mods to shut down this troll thread. Although perhaps you could get to the guy calling dead children cowards first.

you realize calling threads troll or calling people trolls is against the forum rules?

[Laerrus]

So per capita, gun deaths are lower in the US. That still does nothing to fix the problem.

The problem being that people are easily getting a hold of weapons, who have no business owning or using one in the first place.

[Cyberowl]

Except you have to register weapons...which includes giving out your address.

Gun Control laws don't work because CRIMINALS DON'T FOLLOW LAWS.

All you do with Gun Control laws and making them stricter is take guns out of Citizens who follow the laws hands and make them unable to defend yourself.

Failing gun control laws are not an argument against gun control laws, they are an argument against lousy implementation. You can't expect local regulations to work in an open system which is full of loose regulations.

[Tijuana]

ROFL!

I came back from lunch, to 41 quotes. I obviously can't respond to them all, sorry.

[AceofH]

So per capita, gun deaths are lower in the US. That still does nothing to fix the problem.

The problem being that people are easily getting a hold of weapons, who have no business owning or using one in the first place.

If guns are the problem explain the near 200 killed or injured in china by a man with a knife...

More people are killed per year in alcohol related car accidents and due to medical malpractice then due to guns each year.

are we going to ban alcohol, cars, and doctors too?

[Cyberowl]

Um, that would be very basic math. Do you actually struggle with that? I can tutor you for a small amount of $20 / hour * 3 hours * 4 days /week.

So you saying you are offering tutoring for thee fiddy a year? Sounds great.

[Eggroll]

It looks like guns are banned in most of the countries listed. How are there gun deaths in places where there are no guns allowed?

Guns are NOT completely banned in most countries. Only weapons that are usually used in war are banned or heavily restricted. Most people are allowed to own a gun if they chose to. Only very little people consider owning a gun to be the answer to any problem they might have.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Great. Now show me where it's been done right. France? Belgium? Where? It seems to me that, despite all these gun bans, people are still committing mass murder. It's the darnedest thing. It's almost like blood thirsty killers don't even care about the law!

Also, step away from the shift key, and slowly back away. Just stop...with the random capitalized words for no reason.

So where are all of the Canadian mass shootings? We’re right next to America and you can cross the border with little fan fair surly there should be similar numbers.

[Rasulis]

@Tijuana posting facts... you know that triggers these kids

But seriously, how do people not understand this. It's simple, if you take a country that has a billion people and compare it to countries that have a million, you're going to get much larger numbers. But those numbers aren't accurate representations of the country as a whole.

Country A has 1 million people and has 1 school shooting a year
Country B has 1 billion people and has 10 school shootings a year

If you see this and think country A is better... you're an idiot

Actually, in Norway's case, there has been only 1 since WWII. However, because of the small population size, that one act put them on top the list.

[AceofH]

Failing gun control laws are not an argument against gun control laws, they are an argument against lousy implementation. You can't expect local regulations to work in an open system which is full of loose regulations.

does not change that criminals still won't follow the laws.

[Vankrys]

So, mass shootings only matter if there is no terrorism? What?

Terrorist attack are ideology (often religious) driven attack. Domestic mass shooting however is an endemic society problem that is not necessarily driven by any clear ideology, often just opportunity.

Those are 2 very different things. And you don't fight them the same way. I never thought i would have to explain that to someone.

[Travis B]

you realize calling threads troll or calling people trolls is against the forum rules?

It's like speeding. Nearly everyone does it, but very few actually get punished for it.

[Cyberowl]

ROFL!

I came back from lunch, to 41 quotes. I obviously can't respond to them all, sorry.

Guess some people can't help but to correct alternative facts.

[God Save The King]

Unfortunately the website linked is a known fraud, along with the author, and the only "sources" in the article are links to the website itself, I can't find where they substantiate that information, or what is included in those numbers. As others have said, it looks like they're including terror attacks in other countries in the count, which isn't really comparable to issues in the USA, since most terror activity can be traced back to actions taken by our country. It just so happens that we're across an ocean, whereas our political and cultural allies are on the same continent.

Also the article is three years old, so likely not even accurate anymore, since the number of mass shootings has only increased in the US.

[shimerra]

does not change that criminals still won't follow the laws.

So let’s make murder legal because the fact that people still do it means laws are useless becuse people break them! Seriously can we stop using this idiot two year old logic like it’s new or clever. It’s not.

[Cyberowl]

does not change that criminals still won't follow the laws.

No, it doesn't; it explains the numbers though and shows that even tough gun laws aren't a guaranty if your country is armed to the teeth already.

[Sormine]

I obviously can't respond to them all, sorry.

We know, Tijuana. We know.

[Torgent]

So you saying you are offering tutoring for thee fiddy a year? Sounds great.

Only for you. Zenkai has to pay full price.

[Tijuana]

i'm trying to understand you man, but i can't.

What is it that makes you so passionate in defending assault rifle, military weapon design for warfare. Self protection? i get it, but actually i don't. You don't need to shoot 45 round a minute with a high capacity assault rifle for self protection. I simple glock would do.

Meanwhile, mass shooting, mass murdering are made far far easier by having those weapon sold like baguette in France.

Are you that devoid of a human heart that you do not feel anything when kid are being murdered by the hundreds, by the thousands.

It's because nobody can tell me what they do, that all guns don't do. It doesn't matter if it's designed for "warfare". All guns kill people. Every single one. Tell me SPECIFICALLY what about an AR-15 needs to be banned, and then tell me how that does not apply to every pistol made.

AR-15s shoot no faster than any other semiautomatic weapon. A Glock shoots just as fast, and holds more bullets.

Spare me your disgusting appeals to the dead. I didn't hear you boo hooing about the people around the world, who were murdered in their own homes, because they were not allowed to defend themselves. In the US, we are all up in arms over 17 kids dying at once, while we completely ignore THOUSANDS of other gun murders every year. The difference between 17 innocent people shot at once, and 17 shot one by one, is different, how exactly?

[szechuan]

Unfortunately the website linked is a known fraud, along with the author, and the only "sources" in the article are links to the website itself, I can't find where they substantiate that information, or what is included in those numbers. As others have said, it looks like they're including terror attacks in other countries in the count, which isn't really comparable to issues in the USA, since most terror activity can be traced back to actions taken by our country. It just so happens that we're across an ocean, whereas our political and cultural allies are on the same continent.

Oh it's Beyond Fishy.

These links are not credible

Note that John Lott has had a fishy history with the NRA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lott

John Richard Lott Jr. (born May 8, 1958) is an American economist, political commentator, and gun rights advocate. Lott was formerly employed at various academic institutions including the University of Chicago, Yale University, the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, and the University of Maryland, College Park, and at the American Enterprise Institute conservative think tank. As of 2016, he is a columnist for FoxNews.com and the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center, a nonprofit he founded in 2013. Lott holds a Ph.D. in economics from UCLA.