Ohio 7th grade shoots himself in his Middle School

[Spl4sh3r]

They just keep on coming don't they? How much is enough guys really.

If the title of the thread is correct then this is not the same as other school shootings. I mean if someone shoots himself it is not the same as someone going in and shooting other people.

[Mormolyce]

If only they'd armed his psychiatrist.

[Deleted]

You mean aside from bombs and chemical weapons.

You mean, "besides other illegal stuff that is highly regulated"

[Aoyi]

Its sad that we have incidents like this every couple days in the US. I'm sure the reason so many people are interested in this is, what was this child's intent when he went to school with the gun? The end result is a self inflicted gunshot wound. What matters is, he was able to access a gun. He was able to bring it into the school along with more ammunition, fireworks, and a bottle rocket. A shot was fired that resulted in a self inflicted wound.

Given what was brought to school with him, its likely that he intended far more harm to his fellow students. He still might have intended to kill himself in the end, but the extra ammo sure seems to show he left the house that morning with at least the idea of firing on others if not the intent. Its a tragic situation, though luckily no child besides the shooter ended up being harmed. The question now is, was the firing on himself an accident before he set out on his fellow students, or did the reality of the situation overwhelm him and he killed himself rather than go through with it? Either way, the other students at the school are probably going to be dealing with this situation for a long time.

[Deleted]

I’ll just continue to live my life as I did before all these people shot schools up.

Until your kid is getting shot one day.

[quras]

Until your kid is getting shot one day.

It's still rather uncommon and in all likely hood. He/she still wont have to worry about it.

More likely they are to get killed in a car accident than shot at school.

[minteK917]

You mean aside from bombs and chemical weapons.

Those are, you guessed it, illegal. So the rate at which people die by bombs every year is very low. Its just basic elementary school maths. More guns around, more chance for death by guns.

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You mean things that you can buy at a hardware/garden store and can be produced with the right knowledge. You can make explosives out of ping pong balls if you know what you're doing

And yet most people dont do that, because its illegal and harder to do. People are lazy, we can still own guns in Canada, yet we have lower crime rates. Because you need a premit, to take shooting and safety classes. You cant have a criminal record, you need special reasons to buy concealed weapon. It just means we have less gun arounds, even our criminals are less armed, simply because theres less guns period.

Its harder to own a car then a gun in some of your states, just use your god damn head.

[Kathandira]

I regards to bombs and gas. Those are things you would need to special order, or create yourself. And often, ordering certain materials will get you on a watch list right away.

For a kid to get a gun, all they need to do in many cases is walk over to a shelf, drawer, or cabinet, and grab one in their own home.

[minteK917]

Yeah but Canada has less violent crime because there is less poverty. You have adequate social services so people don't become desperate. If the US was to institute gun control laws it wouldn't do much to reduce the crime rates. It would just reduce the number of people shot by guns. I'd rather we actually tried to fix these problems instead of instituting feel good solutions.

Your government is big enough, should be able to tackled both at once. Anything less just means they are wasting your ressources.

[Svad1287]

But that 0.1% has the power to cause fear to many. 0.1% can terrorize a whole country.

0,1% is still alot of people, when you take the entire US population into account, not counting babies or comatose patients...

[Kathandira]

Yeah but Canada has less violent crime because there is less poverty. You have adequate social services so people don't become desperate. If the US was to institute gun control laws it wouldn't do much to reduce the crime rates. It would just reduce the number of people shot by guns. I'd rather we actually tried to fix these problems instead of instituting feel good solutions.

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You mean like how you can go into a drawer and mix cleaning products and produce noxious gases?

Yeah...I literally said that...

I regards to bombs and gas. Those are things you would need to special order, or create yourself.

The difference is having any sort of knowledge of chemistry, and know how to use it safely where you will not kill yourself, vs point at target, and pull trigger.

[minteK917]

My government? My government is tiny. I live in New Zealand.

The problem with democracy is you have to keep enough people on your side to make large and long term changes. Restricting guns will lose you a lot of voters and drastically reduce your chances of reelection. Why do you think Obama did jack shit. I mean the us is a country where offering people health care is a controversial issue.

I live closer to the US then you then. The big problem here is that the same nut jobs against any kind of gun control are the same nut jobs against any kind of social services. You lose these retards no matter what, if its not a copy pasta from the far west, you arent getting their votes. It just happens these nut jobs in the US also have powerful position in their government and lobbying is legal in the USA, meaning its one of the easiest government to buy ever made. You cant even be part of their elections without being publicly bought with hundreds of millions in donations by interest groups. A practice that would be illegal in most of our countries, but in America, they just argue about who received most lol.

[Phlegethon]

No one else got hurt? In that case, good riddance, nutcase took himself out instead of hurting others. It's a good day!

It should have been you.
A 12yo killing himself is never a good thing you dumb piece of whatever the fuck asshole you crawled out of.
I hope you get killed in a fire. Slow and painful.

[Dystemper]

Luckily, bombs are illegal as well! And i have never heard of any one truck killing 58 people while injuring 851 others at the same time. Have not seen gas do that either.
So, no, its only guns that can do that besides weaponry that should not be in civilians hands anyway.

Nice France. A truck killed 86 people and 458 injured. Bath school massacre , 38 kids killed, plus 6 adults and over 58 injured by a bomb .

[Machismo]

Exercising Control over 99.9% of a population because 0.1% is retarded is just pointless. Punishing the many for the idiocy of a few is plain authoritarian overreaching.

It's good to know you don't support limiting immigration by religion or nation, or else you would look like a huge hypocrite. It's a shame when people resort to thought policing.

[Ghostpanther]

Nice France. A truck killed 86 people and 458 injured.

They conveniently forget some facts which do not fit their political stances. lol!

[minteK917]

It's not illegal to lobby where I live in fact it's not illegal in Canada either. It's more restricted I assume but it's not illegal. How else do you think political parties get their funding?

It actually is.. companies arent allowed to give money. It must be an individual thing per citizen with a cap per citizen even. All the donations are inspected by a public commity, lobbying is actually not legal no.

Being illegal doesent mean some people dont break the rules, but just like gun control it lessens the opportunity. Theres no reason the American presidential election had over 2.5 billions behind it for two candidate. Representative of the people my ass lol.

[lummiuster]

Must be fun going to school and fear for your life everyday

freedom of owning guns is more important than the freedom of going to school safely

[minteK917]

Individuals can donate money representing the interests of businesses though. It's still lobbying. Unless you warp the definition of lobbying to suit your argument.

Its much harder to buy someone when the cap is $1000 per head lol. Not an injection of millions. The commities are there exactly to prevent that as well, because some companies had the bright idea of forcing their employees to donate to someone.

[Orby]

this is obvious the fault of porn and video games