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  1. #221
    Quote Originally Posted by President View Post
    Also, can you really call youtube a private company, when its owned by public company google who in turn influences and is influenced by government institutions?
    https://theintercept.com/2016/04/22/...in-two-charts/

    I mean yeah, you can scream "PRRVATE COMPAHNY" all you want when people with opinions contrair to your own get silenced, it doesnt make it any more valid when its public monopolies that own them.
    Yes, I can call it a private company. This is again, you being wrong.

  2. #222
    Quote Originally Posted by mickybrighteyes View Post
    I think you're better off seeking a FOIA request for the FBI's information rather than trying to point out SPLC as something worthwhile. They're barely a step above a random wiki at this point.
    The FBI isn't big on releasing information from things like their Terrorist Screening Center.

    The SPLC bothered to do the work. I'm not saying it's unbiased, but it's all we have to work with so far in this forum.

  3. #223
    Quote Originally Posted by Torto View Post
    Just to be clear, you are aware Muslims are not accommodating towards homosexuals right?
    I'll have to inform my gay muslim Friend

  4. #224
    I'm laughing that someone clearly got triggered, and is trying to spam the forums with new troll threads. I've seen several pop up. Damn, the poor mods are working overtime.

  5. #225
    No one realized that when fascist big brother came it would be in the guise of you friendly neighborhood liberal multinational corporations.

  6. #226
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenixhart View Post
    I'll have to inform my gay muslim Friend
    did he choose to be a muslim or was he born into it? because there's a difference.

    because if he was born into it then it really doesnt matter.

  7. #227
    Quote Originally Posted by Martymark View Post
    No one realized that when fascist big brother came it would be in the guise of you friendly neighborhood liberal multinational corporations.
    Again, this isn't being fascist. This is a private company stating that you can't use their servers to spread your hate.

  8. #228
    Quote Originally Posted by shaunika123 View Post
    did he choose to be a muslim or was he born into it? because there's a difference.

    because if he was born into it then it really doesnt matter.
    They picked it up.

    Maybe Islam isn't the big bad Boogieman y'all want it so desperately to be.

  9. #229
    so they're a bunch of nazis? no surprise

  10. #230
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenixhart View Post
    They picked it up.

    Maybe Islam isn't the big bad Boogieman y'all want it so desperately to be.
    that's even worse

    and again, islam isnt the boogieman, it's just part of the league of evil :P
    Last edited by shaunika123; 2018-03-01 at 05:55 AM.

  11. #231
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenixhart View Post
    Maybe Islam isn't the big bad Boogieman y'all want it so desperately to be.
    It's doing a fine job doing that all by itself.

    No need to wish it.
    Those who do not stand with the Forsaken stand against them. And those who stand against the Forsaken will not stand long

  12. #232
    I think this is a good move on their part. Lots of these social media platforms are breeding grounds for morons. Purge them all.

  13. #233
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I'm waiting for the typical white nationalist defenders to come in and whine that Discord is a monopoly, and should be forced to allow these voice servers to continue in the name of free speech.
    I say they then should ban communist and islamist discords equally. Islamism is basically the same as white nationalism only with religion and communism was historically more murderous than islamism or white nationalism combined.

  14. #234
    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    Again, this isn't being fascist. This is a private company stating that you can't use their servers to spread your hate.
    As long as its also stopping BLM discords posting dead cop pictures and black panther ones praising death to whites..


    If this is policing bad content that's fine if this is only alt righter's then its a problem.
    Last edited by Moshots; 2018-03-01 at 06:07 AM.

  15. #235
    Hope they dont target WHITE nationalists only but also black nationalists. Otherwise its racist,right?

  16. #236
    Quote Originally Posted by Moshots View Post
    As long as its also stopping BLM discords posting dead cop pictures and black panther ones praising death to whites..


    If this is policing bad content thats fine if this is only alt righters then its a problem.
    "BLM Discords" lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunika123 View Post
    you do realize you just used "whole" and "cherry picking" for the same thing in the same sentence right? we're not cherry picking, we're attacking the idea as a whole. because it is wrong as a whole.
    That's not an error or inconsistency.

    You're cherry-picking factors that apply to some identifiable subset within Islam, and then you blame all Islam as if it were that subset. That's the entire point. That's prejudice, plain and simple.


  18. #238
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    That's not an error or inconsistency.

    You're cherry-picking factors that apply to some identifiable subset within Islam, and then you blame all Islam as if it were that subset. That's the entire point. That's prejudice, plain and simple.
    You're missing what I like to call the Sam Harris Three-Step:

    1) Bait: Islam, here defined as a body of ideological propositions, has some bad ideas.
    2) Switch: Therefor Muslims should be profiled at airports and border crossings.
    3) Equivocation: It's irrational to call me a bigot because I'm talking about ideas and not people.

  19. #239
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    That's not an error or inconsistency.

    You're cherry-picking factors that apply to some identifiable subset within Islam, and then you blame all Islam as if it were that subset. That's the entire point. That's prejudice, plain and simple.
    okay how to start:
    a: once again, I'm not cherry picking anything
    literally every idea in islam(and christianity, and mormonism, and judaism and every single religion) is wrong, because it comes from the assumption that god(or a prophet of god) tells us this is the right way to behave, and it brainwashes people with lies and manipulations and threats to follow that doctrine. (this is all verbatim in the quran, and most other religious texts), some are more wrong than others, and some ideas are good in a vacuum, but since we, as people can decide which ideas are good or bad, we dont need the religious part in the discussion, all it helps to achieve is hold the discussion back, or corrupt it.

    b: again, subsets have nothing to do with anything. I'm talking about the religion, and not the people following it.
    the quran tells you to kill people that leave islam(and it's a law upheld in many muslim countries to this day), the quran tells you to violently attack, murder, and convert the entire world to Islam. just because it's not followed by every single muslim in the world doesn't make it not part of islam.

    c: it's not exactly a subset, when there are literally hundreds of millions that share the same ideas about it, because they were brainwashed into it.
    they dont apply to "a subset" they apply to all islam, if someone who calls themselves a muslim and only follows certain aspects of the religion, that doesnt mean that that religion is somehow right. all it means is that that person cant consciously separate their own moral values from their brainwashed upbringing. So they cherry pick their own religion to stick to their culture, but also appear somehow morally superior.


    every single terrible idea has some good ideas within them, otherwise they'd never take off. that doesnt mean they're good ideas though.

    and once again, I'm talking about all religion here and have been since my first post, stop trying to steer the direction into "just islam"

    the bible has just as many awful things in it as the quran does,( the only difference is that most christian countries learned not to use the bible as a lawbook)
    and yet somehow i'M not a racist and a bigot for criticising christianity.

    why is that?
    Last edited by shaunika123; 2018-03-01 at 06:53 AM.

  20. #240
    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post
    I'm more against white nationalism than i am other forms of nationalism.

    When we come from history of many European nations subjugating Africa and other nations it's more justified and a form of resistance while white nationalism is purely about dominance.

    Nazis are white nationalists. You'd be hard pressed to find one that wasn't.
    Sure, but that was more about being ethnic German, not about whiteness. I mean, yes, they were white, but they also killed and brutalized a ton of white people who were not German during the holocaust.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims

    I don't want to take anything away from Jewish folks, 'cause obviously Hitler had a hard-on for them, but being "white" didn't save you from Hitler. It was pretty much a "native German" thing. White non-Germans need not apply.


    So if you call Germans who call themselves "National Socialists", "white nationalists". What do you call Chinese folks who call themselves, "National Socialists"?

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