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  1. #381
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tackhisis View Post
    Please enlighten me.
    TV, newspapers, internet, phone, printing shops, paper and ink shops, even buildings themselves are private in the USA.
    We also have roads, parks, and universities that are public. I'm sure you've complained about people protesting on them.
    Human progress isn't measured by industry. It's measured by the value you place on a life.

    Just, be kind.

  2. #382
    Quote Originally Posted by Tackhisis View Post
    There is no "LGBT people's rights". There are human rights, and they do not make exceptions based on sexual orientation.
    And that's why they support bans and restrictions specifically for gay people...

  3. #383
    Quote Originally Posted by Thurin View Post
    To me all the Abrahamic religions are radical and authoritarian. No better than some of the hateful ideologies that have risen in this world.
    Replace "Jew" with "nonbeliever" and voila.
    Then it's not simply a war with Islam, but a war with religion?

    How do you propose fighting that war without becoming an authoritarian yourself? Restricting freedoms based on religion, restricting immigration based on religion... are both authoritarian in nature.

  4. #384
    Quote Originally Posted by smrund View Post
    We also have roads, parks, and universities that are public.
    You must have mistaken the freedom of assembly for the freedom of speech.

  5. #385
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    When they tell white people to get to the back, or try and force white people to leave, then I have a huge fucking problem with it.
    Oh, I know that one event. You realize that was because the voices of black people often go unheard or ignored and that white people are praised for the slightest anti racist gesture and get centered in the narrative?

    BLM is a black organized movement, and while they also protest against the brutality white people face from the police (Which blue lives and all lives matter never do for some curious reason), it is deeply informed by the racial injustice, profiling and brutality black people experience. So yeah, centering the protest on black organizers and making their voices heard for once is good. If you were an actual ally and would not only think of how things make yourself feel you'd get that. I know that you have a hard time understanding that minorities are more severely affected by discrimination and have unique perspectives but seriously dude. Have some introspection and try for once thinking from the perspective of other people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I do oppose police brutality, I don't care who they are doing it against. BLM specifically called for ending body cameras, meaning they wanted less transparency. The government has no place racially profiling. I can agree with something someone says, and still oppose their organization as a whole. Hell, I was told by a BLM member that I had no justification to talk about black-on-black crime in Baltimore, because I'm white.
    Well, black on black crime is racist bullshit used by reactionaries to attack protestors. You also talk about white on white crime?, cuz guess what who kills most white people.

  6. #386
    Quote Originally Posted by Tackhisis View Post
    There is no "LGBT people's rights". There are human rights, and they do not make exceptions based on sexual orientation.
    Yet, a lot for reactionaries don't want LGBT people to have said rights.

  7. #387
    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    Oh, I know that one event. You realize that was because the voices of black people often go unheard or ignored and that white people are praised for the slightest anti racist gesture and get centered in the narrative?

    BLM is a black organized movement, and while they also protest against the brutality white people face from the police (Which blue lives and all lvies matter never do for some curious reason), it is deeply informed by the racial injustice, profiling and brutality black people experience. So yeah, centering the protest on black organizers and making their voices heard for once is good. If you were an actual ally and would not only think of how things make yourself feel you'd get that. I know that you have a hard time understanding that minorities are more severely affected by discrimination but seriously dude. Have soem introspection and try for once thinking from the perspective of other people.



    Well, black on black crime is racist bullshit used by reactionaries to attack protestors. You also talk about white on white crime?, cuz guess what who kills most white people.
    No, it's a real issue in cities like Baltimore, and should be addressed. If you want to get pissed about someone talking about crime, then don't expect people to listen to you when you want to talk about crime.

    As for BLM, there are plenty of examples, I simply brought up two. Now, if BLM were to completely disassociate with that element, and boot them out, then I will reconsider. Let me know when that happens.

    I'm not a fan of hypocrisy, and trying to hide information that's not convenient.

  8. #388
    Quote Originally Posted by Acidz View Post
    Why no word about Antifa servers being banned???
    Because antifa is made up only in the circle jerk environment of the alt-right.

  9. #389
    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker76 View Post
    Finally a version of The Purge I can get behind. Why social media platforms would tolerate a hate version of Funny Games talk is something I never understood.


    ‘It’s always the right policy decision to reject organized hatred’

    Atomwaffen Division, The Right Server, Nordic Resistance Movement, Iron March and European Domas are just some of the servers that were shut down recently as part of Discord’s attempt to purge its platform of hateful content.

    “Discord has a Terms of Service (ToS) and Community Guidelines that we ask all of our communities and users to adhere to,” a Discord representative told Polygon. “These specifically prohibit harassment, threatening messages, or calls to violence. Though we do not read people’s private messages, we do investigate and take immediate appropriate action against any reported ToS violation by a server or user. There were a handful of servers that violated these ToS recently and were swiftly removed from the platform.”

    A representative from Discord didn’t tell Polygon when the purge first started, but Discord users noted the disappearance of notable servers over the past couple of days. A thread on the Discord subreddit acknowledging the servers’ disappearance was locked by a Discord staff member. Each of the servers affected — TRS, Atomwaffen, Nordic Resistance Movement, Uncesnsored politics , Ironmarch, Pagan Pathway, European Domus and Fashlash — are known for curating content that promotes hateful ideologies and pro-Nazism. Atomwaffen Division, for example, is labeled as a designated hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

    “Atomwaffen Division (AWD) is a terroristic national socialist organization that formed out of Iron March, an influential fascist forum that went offline in September 2017,” a description by the Center reads. “Members, who can be fairly described as accelerationists, believe that violence, depravity and degeneracy are the only sure way to establish order in their dystopian and apocalyptic vision of the world.”

    Discord and the Southern Poverty Law Center are working together to try and rid the platform of hateful groups, a Discord representative said. The purge comes at a time when the Center is asking other platforms like YouTube to take a tougher stance on the platform that appears on its side. Atomwaffen Division’s presence on YouTube has come under scrutiny recently, with YouTube announcing today that it will ban content from active users who identify as Atomwaffen Division members.


    Thanks SPLC for your service. Time to send in another donation.
    Discord doing this, and twitter still hasnt banned Trump. Twitter needs to get its act together or it will just be yet another abandoned social networking platform.

  10. #390
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    As for BLM, there are plenty of examples, I simply brought up two. Now, if BLM were to completely disassociate with that element, and boot them out, then I will reconsider. Let me know when that happens.

    I'm not a fan of hypocrisy, and trying to hide information that's not convenient.
    Well, then you should know that BLM is not a centralized organization and that there are many loose chapters.

  11. #391
    Quote Originally Posted by Thurin View Post
    That is what I said: ISLAM. Not Muslims.... I have Muslim friends from high school, most of them glad that they did not live in a nation where law and order is dictated by a religion.

    And borders are authoritarian by nature, but they are nevertheless needed.
    So, then it boils down to how authoritarian you want to get. Are you going to limit immigration, because someone happens to be a Muslim, or from a country that is mostly Muslim?

    If so, are you wanting to do the same for Christians and Jews, since you brought up all the Abrahamic religions?

  12. #392
    And, @Machsimo , I know this will fall on deaf ears, but try to jump over your libertarian shadow some time and try to understand that the world treats people of different demographics differently.

  13. #393
    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    Well, then you should know that BLM is not a centralized organization and that there are many loose chapters.
    Then there is no reason to support a gaggle fuck of people then. The same goes for Antifa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    And, @Machsimo , I know this will fall on deaf ears, but try to jump over your libertarian shadow some time and try to understand that the world treats people of different demographics differently.
    I'm aware of this, and I oppose such behavior when it's about skin color. It's why I oppose BLM for pushing white people to the back, or telling white people to leave.

  14. #394
    Quote Originally Posted by Acidz View Post
    Why no word about Antifa servers being banned???
    lol. even if there are antifa discord servers, which there probably arent because antifa isnt really a thing, just a loose association, why would they ban them? discord says "we dislike fascists, lets ban their server, and also ban servers of other people who dislike fascists"? Sorry but no, despite what breitbart and fox news, and doctored images from 4chan tell you, if antifa does actually exist in any real capacity, they are doing good in the world.

  15. #395
    Quote Originally Posted by NihilSustinet View Post
    lol. even if there are antifa discord servers, which there probably arent because antifa isnt really a thing, just a loose association, why would they ban them? discord says "we dislike fascists, lets ban their server, and also ban servers of other people who dislike fascists"? Sorry but no, despite what breitbart and fox news, and doctored images from 4chan tell you, if antifa does actually exist in any real capacity, they are doing good in the world.
    Don't tell that to the businesses who had their windows broken in.

  16. #396
    Hopefully they also purge the alt-left hate groups too, but I doubt they will. Terfs, Communists, Black Supremacy etc. is fine, but Nazis and White Supremacists aren't. Basically, as long as they aren't white men, they are allowed to be hateful.

  17. #397
    Quote Originally Posted by WeaponizedPillows View Post
    Hopefully they also purge the alt-left hate groups too, but I doubt they will. Terfs, Communists, Black Supremacy etc. is fine, but Nazis and White Supremacists aren't. Basically, as long as they aren't white men, they are allowed to be hateful.
    Maybe you should report those groups, and get them banned.

  18. #398
    Quote Originally Posted by NihilSustinet View Post
    Discord doing this, and twitter still hasnt banned Trump. Twitter needs to get its act together or it will just be yet another abandoned social networking platform.
    If any platform at all bans some pro-Trump group or Trump himself, I'd like to be there just to watch the fireworks. Talk about quick escalation. This will *absolutely* result in some new platform propelling forward like no tomorrow.

  19. #399
    Quote Originally Posted by Thurin View Post
    My nation has never set the tone to discriminate people seeking shelter based on their religions. Deal with your own crap.
    I was merely seeking clarification. You said the west was at war with Islam, and I wanted to know what you were willing to support in fighting that war. For a great many people, that means restricting the freedoms of Muslims, either by bans on garb, limits to their immigration, or monitoring and profiling of Muslim citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeaponizedPillows View Post
    Hopefully they also purge the alt-left hate groups too, but I doubt they will. Terfs, Communists, Black Supremacy etc. is fine, but Nazis and White Supremacists aren't. Basically, as long as they aren't white men, they are allowed to be hateful.
    lol the alt-left is a not a thing.

    And Terfs and black supremacists are left wing?
    lololol

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