Climate deaths drop despite population growth

[Torto]

Taken from Bjorn Lomborg's twitter:

Ever fewer people die from climate-related catastrophes
As population has quadrupled, deaths have dropped 20-fold
Death risk from climate down 99% from 1920s

It would seem that despite climate change alarm-ism, humans are doing pretty well. Not only have we proven that we can adapt, we have shown we can develop and engineer the technology to deal with climate change. Further, the costs involved with climate related GDP losses has also declined:



Hopefully this will finally put to bed the silly notion that climate change will destroy the planet and we can focus on more pressing and immediate issues.

[Blur4stuff]

So climate change is real, humans are doing it and it's a bad thing. But that's okay because we can adapt so let's keep doing it anyway?

[Vankrys]

Hopefully this will finally put to bed the silly notion that climate change will destroy the planet and we can focus on more pressing and immediate issues.

No man, you're talking about flood, wildfire, storms, extreme weather.
Beside, technologies, first response and medical care have vastly improved since 1920.

It doesn't change the climate change is a real concern for the future of the planet. You're really going to stand here, saying that 97% of expert in fields, PhDs, Engineers, and every country on earth but one are wrong and "the donald" is right with his "ivy league education".

[PosPosPos]

Yeah, because back in the 1920s societal infrastructure was built to be as disaster-resilient as they were today.

People at that point also rubbed their magic crystal balls in stead of google so they could see how people handled disasters in the future.



But really, it takes stubbornly disingenuous alt-righters like Torto to spin "humanity has increasingly adapted to climate change due to ongoing liberal efforts to educate and push for necessary social infrastructure" into "climate change is a liberal fearmongering conspiracy to instill paranoia of planet destruction to control the populace.

[kasuke06]

screw this planet, it's been trying to kill us since forever. I vote for going to space, colonizing a new planet, and putting what we learned here to use. Everyone has that first character they try everything on, irrevocably fuck up, and keep as a monument to how colossally bad one's ideas can be.

[Fat Mac]

science is a liar sometimes

[Urayamashii]

While this does indicate we've been able to adapt to climate changes economically and technologically, it doesn't mean the ecosystem is able to adapt as well.

[Torto]

No man, you're talking about flood, wildfire, storms, extreme weather.
Beside, technologies, first response and medical care have vastly improved since 1920.

It doesn't change the climate change is a real concern for the future of the planet. You're really going to stand here, saying that 97% of expert in fields, PhDs, Engineers, and every country on earth but one are wrong and "the donald" is right with his "ivy league education".

Never said climate change is not real, there is plenty of evidence of that. My contention has always been about the cause and the alarmists ridiculous claims about the possible consequences.

But, this is a good news story. It seems we as a species will survive after all.

[Garnier Fructis]

There seem to be some confounding factors here, but for the life of me I can't seem to figure out what they are.

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Never said climate change is not real, there is plenty of evidence of that. My contention has always been about the cause and the alarmists ridiculous claims about the possible consequences.

But, this is a good news story. It seems we as a species will survive after all.

Ah, salad bar science. You pick and choose which parts you like and ignore the rest!

[Varvara Spiros Gelashvili]

screw this planet, it's been trying to kill us since forever. I vote for going to space, colonizing a new planet, and putting what we learned here to use. Everyone has that first character they try everything on, irrevocably fuck up, and keep as a monument to how colossally bad one's ideas can be.

We don't know if any of that is possible but if you want to experiment and gamble that's fine.

[Macaquerie]

A chart that can't even spell "death" properly seems like a credible source...

[Fat Mac]

Everyone has that first character they try everything on, irrevocably fuck up, and keep as a monument to how colossally bad one's ideas can be.

we should definitely nuke Gandhi before we restart. i do it everytime

[Blamblam41]

Never said climate change is not real, there is plenty of evidence of that. My contention has always been about the cause and the alarmists ridiculous claims about the possible consequences.

But, this is a good news story. It seems we as a species will survive after all.

It has nothing to do with us as a species and what this will globally do to the other animals and plants that keep our planet functional.

Did you even finish third grade biology?

[EbonBehelit-]

So climate change is real, humans are doing it and it's a bad thing. But that's okay because we can adapt so let's keep doing it anyway?

That's where the goalposts are now, I guess.

[kasuke06]

we should definitely nuke Gandhi before we restart. i do it everytime

Have you not seen your Romero?! Nuking the dead makes nuclear zombies that never frickin' die, even when decapitated and dismembered, or even left in a vat of acid! Even if you put 'em to the torch the ashes infect more people, and corpses!

[Torto]

There seem to be some confounding factors here, but for the life of me I can't seem to figure out what they are.

Confounding factors? Yeah you will need to spell that out.

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It has nothing to do with us as a species and what this will globally do to the other animals and plants that keep our planet functional.

Did you even finish third grade biology?

Animals and plants become extinct all the time, and not always because of climate change or because of humans.

[Garnier Fructis]

Confounding factors? Yeah you will need to spell that out.

People already have, and you ignored it. So why should I waste my time spelling it out to you? It's literally already in this thread.

[cparle87]

People already have, and you ignored it. So why should I waste my time spelling it out to you? It's literally already in this thread.

Confounding means to confuse. I think you meant a different word. Did you perhaps meant conflicting?

[Ettan]

It has nothing to do with us as a species and what this will globally do to the other animals and plants that keep our planet functional.

Did you even finish third grade biology?

Do you think life will flourish more in

a) A tropical climate
or
b) The temperate climate we have now

Just fyi plants and as an extention life in general LOVES high co2 levels.
If you go back to the jurrasic period (no permanent ice on either poles or at sea level, anywhere on the planet).
You had a much hoter climate, many times more co2 in the atmosphere. And suprise suprise life flourished in this period.


Short term/ a select number of species; yes it is bad.
Long term/ the overall; a positive, not a negative.

[Torto]

A chart that can't even spell "death" properly seems like a credible source...

I assume you know who Bjorn Lomborg is....