Infowars and Gateway Pundit Being Sued in Virginia for Spreading Fake News.

[Super Kami Dende]

Read the whole thing. There is no statement from snopes saying there is as much fake news on the left as there is on the right

And where did I say there was either? I said there is a lot. not that there is as much. Reading comprehension hard for you as always?

[Sormine]

It's nothing of the sort, you are still being dense.

Yes, it is. Again, it doesn't change the fact that he paid them to hold a sign that says "Death to all Jews."

Take a step back and look at who is being dense here. You're defending the guy who made an antisemitic joke by claiming he wanted to see if it would actually happen.

I can't tell if you're being this willfully ignorant or you're just trolling me at this point.

[Super Kami Dende]

Yes, it is. Again, it doesn't change the fact that he paid them to hold a sign that says "Death to all Jews."

Take a step back and look at who is being dense here. You're defending the guy who made an antisemitic joke by claiming he wanted to see if it would actually happen.

I can't tell if you're being this willfully ignorant or you're just trolling me at this point.

THe fact you can't even understand the context of it, means you are likely not worth the time trying to explain it to.

[Priestiality]

He should have sued each of them for more than just $75k. He should have sued for millions in hope of bankrupting them all.

Cases can be thrown out just on the grounds that the plaintiff asked for an unreasonable amount of money.

[Orange Joe]

And where did I say there was either? I said there is a lot. not that there is as much. Reading comprehension hard for you as always?

Even still snopes does not say a lot either. Thats you inserting your own bias.

[Orbitus]

He should have sued each of them for more than just $75k. He should have sued for millions in hope of bankrupting them all.

Yep, if I were him, I would make sure they can't get any money back again for the rest of their lives.

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Remember - you can only spread lies and portray them as truth if you're talking about a President.

Please, by all means. Show me what any other media source has been spreading that has been fake or lies. I guarantee you can't find any.

[gaymer77]

What lies?

You know what lies. That he's Muslim, that he wasn't born in the US, that he's out to take away your guns, that he wants to force abortion on every pregnant woman, that he wants to make everyone get gay married. Those lies. Oh wait that's what they said truthfully about the last guy. My bad. The new guy was said to have made fun of the disabled, have small hands (implies smaller other parts of the body), didn't sleep with a hooker/porn star, is a terrific guy, very well educated, upstanding citizen, under audit from the IRS, doesn't take money from the NRA, is a Christian,and is the best president the USA has ever had...you know those lies.

[Sormine]

Page 1 and this is already gold.

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Hold on let me find the enormous list of people who have made anti-semitic jokes whose careers were not destroyed.

LOL

Yeah bud, his career was completely destroyed.

/s for sarcasm.

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THe fact you can't even understand the context of it, means you are likely not worth the time trying to explain it to.

The fact that you can't explain it says enough for me, tbh.

[Xar226]

It wasn't Journalism it was a hit piece.

I actually agree it was a hit piece, but you're moving the goal posts.

It wasn't fake news. Nothing about it was made up. It was just an opinion you don't agree with or, if you want to go a bit farther, an irresponsible use of their platform. PewDiePie did what he was accused of doing -- the rest was their interpretation of what it means or what should be done about it.

Compare to the behavior alleged in this article, for example. This guy isn't working for George Soros. He doesn't make $320,000 a year. He doesn't work for the CIA. None of these things are honest mistakes; they're simply invented out of thin air. Yet it was claimed that all of those things were true, and they then used those made-up "facts" to impugn him by suggesting that his video was actually a coordinated hit piece rather than a guy who happened to be at the scene. The harassment and death threats that followed were an easily understood consequence of the allegations.

Fake news isn't something you disagree with, it's not honest mistakes, it's not spin or bias -- all of that has existed forever and will exist forever, and it's pretty easy to spot. Fake news is when you make shit up. It's when you falsify the entire factual basis of your argument. That's why it is so insidious; we're no longer even arguing over our interpretations of the same basic facts, we can't agree on the facts themselves. I wasn't in Charlottesville, for example, so to have any kind of opinion whatsoever on what happened there I have to know what actually happened there, and that's what fake news exploits by feeding an entirely false narrative. Don't confuse it with people spinning the facts to support their agenda. It's not the same.

[Sky High]

Remember - you can only spread lies and portray them as truth if you're talking about a President.

/looks back at the time period between 2008 and 2016

Yep, you’re not wrong.

[Sormine]

I mean if you google Pewdiepie most of the results are about this, with some of them even calling him alt-right, which is absurd.

It's sort of like saying Logan Paul's career wasn't destroyed.

The Left for sure has plenty of Fake News, in fact there was plenty of it during the Bush era but back then we just called it conspiracy theory instead of "Fake News"

Oh also the anti-vaccine movement and "alternative medicine" movement, which is almost entirely left wing, is also "fake news"

Drinking this egg white and grass smoothie won't actually cure my cancer.

Last I checked he still gets millions of views for his videos, you know, his main content. No reasonable person will say that his career is over with numbers like that.

Secondly, don't try to draw equivalence with the alternative medicine crowd, they are a much smaller portion of the population and significantly less politically motivated.

[Cheerbleeder]

The left fears Alex Jones and infowars. They also fear Mark Dice and Sargon. In America there is freedom of speech and freedom of press so infowars will win in court within a day lol. Also I love how all the liberals here champion their pride and joy twitter platform for banning conservatives yet despise ISP's for not wanting Net Neutrality. Just shows the hypocrisy and how uneducated the left really is.

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See, this is what I mean.

Why is fake news worse when it involves politics? The anti-vax movement has led to the spread of diseases we thought were eradicated... Saying they aren't significant is objectively nonsense. It is ABSOLUTELY equivalent in terms of damage, it just doesn't involve politics, really.

Oh the irony. But what about "my body my choice". Freedom means to have a say over your own entity, right? Also if you're heavily vaccinated with mental issues then why do you care if I get shots?

[Sormine]

See, this is what I mean.

Why is fake news worse when it involves politics? The anti-vax movement has led to the spread of diseases we thought were eradicated... Saying they aren't significant is objectively nonsense. It is ABSOLUTELY equivalent in terms of damage, it just doesn't involve politics, really.

What I mainly meant was don't bring me into the discussion because I was never here to talk about alternative medicine. I never said they weren't significant, I said they weren't significantly motivated by politics.

Most people do care that anti-vaxxers exist, and most experts and professionals do what they can in the field to suppress the falsehoods that anti-vaxxers spread. I see plenty of it all the time.

A major difference is that these people are a small part of the population and therefore can only damage society in small, albeit deadly, ways.

[Sormine]

Oh the irony. But what about "my body my choice". Freedom means to have a say over your own entity, right? Also if you're heavily vaccinated with mental issues then why do you care if I get shots?

Are you trolling? Are you even remotely educated on the topic? You or your children not getting vaccinated puts others at risk of contagious diseases.

[Sormine]

So my point stands that Fake News on the Left does exist, and it's also bad.

So I don't see why "Fake News is bad" or "conspiracy theories are bad" is an unreasonable position.

1. I never said they were unreasonable positions.

2. At no point did we agree that alternative medicine was a "left wing" belief. I'd really argue that alternative medicine is independent of the political spectrum.

[vindicatorx]

And they will win again. They will claim they aren't a news agency, they are an entertainment site just like last time Alex Jones got sued and won.

[lockedout]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/infowa...DB&via=FB_Page

Good. The suit is absolutely true and should shut them down. They aren't journalists, they are a propaganda machine that doesn't have an ounce of truth behind them.



The conspiracy theorists are being sued because of the bullshit that is in bold right there. Saying that the guy suing Infowars, Gateway Pundit, Allen West, and the RT reporter, all spread lies about him after the video he posted from the "Unite the Right" hate rally.

Is this going to be the suit that finally makes Youtube remove Alex Jones? Here's to hoping it does.

Anyone can sue anyone for anything. They have no case though.

[Orbitus]

Anyone can sue anyone for anything. They have no case though.

Here comes the armchair lawyer that thinks he knows anything. Sorry, but he absolutely has a case, why do you think Alex Jones apologized after his followers attacked that pizza place after Pizzagate? Because he knew that the pizza place would have won, easily. So will this guy.

[Powerogue]

Wait InfoWars isn't an Onion-esque parody show?



Poe's Law strikes again.

[turboether]

I think it's a pretty decent parody of modern media sensationalism, though admittedly I've only watched highlights and memes. Part of the magic is not putting a disclaimer at front saying it's a gag, with a show that surreal peoples' reactions are part of the punchline.