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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    So then Cohen was lying then? That is all you had to say. Still doesn't refute the fact, that if you listened to the clip, Hannity also states that he has gotten advice and such from him. Cohen took that as Hannity being a client. But I guess we will find out when they go through the millions of pages of files how much shit Hannity is actually in.
    Real estate, he got advice on real estate. I'm not seeing anywhere that it states Hannity had Cohen on retainer. But yes, let's wait and see.

  2. #62
    Didn't Hannity deny point blank that he had ever been a client of Cohen?

    So either Hannity lied or Cohen lied to the judge!
    Everyone kept saying MoP was shit, but it started at 10M subs. It's big loss was by months 4-6 into MoP, the total loss across those 6 months was only 1.7M compared to WoD losing 2.9M in HALF THE FUCKING TIME. 3 months passed and WoD loses 2.9M players. This is not due to "MMOs dying", but because Warlords of Draenor is a garbage expansion. Cata also lost 2.9M subs across the entire expansion. MoP lost 3.2M across the entire expansion. WoD lost 4.6 Million 7 months after it launched!

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Maybach View Post
    Didn't Hannity deny point blank that he had ever been a client of Cohen?

    So either Hannity lied or Cohen lied to the judge!
    I'm no fan of Hannity or Cohen, but I don't think that's necessarily so. Hannity said he got legal advice from Cohen on real estate, but that Cohen didn't represent him in any matter. To a lawyer, those are two different things.

    If it turns out that Cohen did represent Hannity in some matter -- by writing a demand letter for him, arguing a traffic ticket for him, paying off a mistress, or whatever -- then Hannity will have been shown to have been lying.

    In short, Hannity was Cohen's client, and hasn't denied that, so far as I've seen. What he denied was that Cohen represented him as his attorney, and Cohen has not said that he did.

  4. #64
    He got real estate advise from a fixer that makes problems go away. I don't see how that would make him a client, especially one that could be embarrassed by this coming out. Honestly if nothing was wrong, he could have just come forward. Acknowledged his connection to Michael Cohen, and recused himself from commenting on this.

    At the very least, he's been unprofessional in his role as somewhat of a journalist. Most likely, he did something that needed to go away. That's what Michael Cohen does. Just because he doesn't seem the type to sexually harass women, which is a good thing, does not mean it's impossible he was ever unfaithful, or committed some other crime. Maybe we'll find out. Maybe we will not. But I think an innocent man may not be fighting so hard to prevent Cohen's stuff from coming out.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Torto View Post
    Real estate, he got advice on real estate. I'm not seeing anywhere that it states Hannity had Cohen on retainer. But yes, let's wait and see.
    Then why did Cohen list him as a 3rd client, wanting to keep him masked? If it is as trivial as you say it is, why did he list him at all?

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Cyi View Post
    Linking a CNN fact checker is pretty bold, even for you, lol. I am not in the mood for a long debate, just pointing out that finding a president/candidate without some shoddy history is sadly becoming a rarity.
    So, you aren't willing to actually refute the information provided, just whine about the source? Good to know.

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Torto View Post
    Real estate, he got advice on real estate. I'm not seeing anywhere that it states Hannity had Cohen on retainer. But yes, let's wait and see.
    Why did Hannity fight so hard to keep it a secret?
    And why did Hannity not disclose to his viewers when he was ranting all last week about the Cohen raid that he was one of Cohen’s three clients?
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  8. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    So then Cohen was lying then? That is all you had to say. Still doesn't refute the fact, that if you listened to the clip, Hannity also states that he has gotten advice and such from him. Cohen took that as Hannity being a client. But I guess we will find out when they go through the millions of pages of files how much shit Hannity is actually in.
    I find it amazing that people automatically assume people have done something wrong if they have lawyers on retainer or contact with lawyers. I've sought legal counsel from lawyers quite a bit, and it's never been because I'm in trouble for a sex scandals, murders, money laundering schemes, <insert federal crime>, or anything crazy... it's almost always for legal documents for contracts and real estate (done some NDA's and classification stuff, too). Sometimes I just ask lawyers for advice concerning a situation or paperwork if they're knowledgeable concerning those types of matters, because you don't want to screw yourself over by not crossing all your T's and dotting all your I's. Also, if you're a well-known and/or popular public figure, you're going to have lawyers to deal with frivolous and constant attacks. Just because you haven't done anything wrong doesn't mean you won't need lawyers to defend yourself against attacks, because legal battles are an easy way to attack a person with little or no basis, even from just a monetary standpoint. After reading the linked article, I'd say almost 95% of the article was pure speculation and conspiracy theory and nothing to do with the actual situation (the anger and hate was palpable). Any sane person's immediate reaction to the article would be that Hannity probably asked Cohen for legal advice, and it was probably a real estate matter... and also that the author really dislikes these two people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapadons View Post
    Am I missing something ? Is this not covered by attorney- client privilege confidentiality?
    Yeah, you're missing what Hannity is claiming.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/16/b...en-client.html
    Quote Originally Posted by The New York Times
    Mr. Hannity denied on Monday that he was a client of Mr. Cohen’s, saying that he had never paid him for his services and that his discussions with him centered on real estate.
    Attorney-client privilege can't be applied if you're not a client. If he is a client, then at the very best Hannity is doing something that is highly unethical from a journalistic standpoint (though I'm fairly certain it isn't illegal). If Cohen is lying to a federal judge by claiming Hannity as a client, I'm fairly certain that is perjury.

    So either Cohen committed perjury, or Hannity completely lacks any integrity. I think it is more likely to be the latter of the two, though it is entirely possible that Cohen committed perjury.

    The whole fuss is over the fact that it is the personal lawyer of the POTUS who engages in highly suspicious, and probably illegal, activities.
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  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Logwyn View Post
    Who hasn't she banged?

    Hannity always seemed shady...
    Him and Bill Maher hit all the hollywood "parties"

    Unlikely duo I know, but dogs gotta dog

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arlor View Post
    I'm no fan of Hannity or Cohen, but I don't think that's necessarily so. Hannity said he got legal advice from Cohen on real estate, but that Cohen didn't represent him in any matter. To a lawyer, those are two different things.

    If it turns out that Cohen did represent Hannity in some matter -- by writing a demand letter for him, arguing a traffic ticket for him, paying off a mistress, or whatever -- then Hannity will have been shown to have been lying.

    In short, Hannity was Cohen's client, and hasn't denied that, so far as I've seen. What he denied was that Cohen represented him as his attorney, and Cohen has not said that he did.
    Considering the caliber of both of these pieces of shit, I guarantee you it is more likely it is a NDA with an underage escort that he impregnated, not some off the cuff correspondence about a condo in NYC.
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  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by exochaft View Post
    I find it amazing that people automatically assume people have done something wrong if they have lawyers on retainer or contact with lawyers. I've sought legal counsel from lawyers quite a bit, and it's never been because I'm in trouble for a sex scandals, murders, money laundering schemes, <insert federal crime>, or anything crazy... it's almost always for legal documents for contracts and real estate (done some NDA's and classification stuff, too). Sometimes I just ask lawyers for advice concerning a situation or paperwork if they're knowledgeable concerning those types of matters, because you don't want to screw yourself over by not crossing all your T's and dotting all your I's. Also, if you're a well-known and/or popular public figure, you're going to have lawyers to deal with frivolous and constant attacks. Just because you haven't done anything wrong doesn't mean you won't need lawyers to defend yourself against attacks, because legal battles are an easy way to attack a person with little or no basis, even from just a monetary standpoint. After reading the linked article, I'd say almost 95% of the article was pure speculation and conspiracy theory and nothing to do with the actual situation (the anger and hate was palpable). Any sane person's immediate reaction to the article would be that Hannity probably asked Cohen for legal advice, and it was probably a real estate matter... and also that the author really dislikes these two people.
    I didn't state that he did anything wrong, but reporting about Cohen, in support of him and Trump, is a conflict of interest. That and fighting to keep Hannity secret, seems a bit shady at least. Because, if he was doing what he said he was doing with Cohen, why did it matter if Hannity was Cohen's client?

  13. #73
    Hannity spreading that birther crap along with the donald about obama really does nothing to make me think he has any integrity, or that anything he says can be taken at face value
    Everyone kept saying MoP was shit, but it started at 10M subs. It's big loss was by months 4-6 into MoP, the total loss across those 6 months was only 1.7M compared to WoD losing 2.9M in HALF THE FUCKING TIME. 3 months passed and WoD loses 2.9M players. This is not due to "MMOs dying", but because Warlords of Draenor is a garbage expansion. Cata also lost 2.9M subs across the entire expansion. MoP lost 3.2M across the entire expansion. WoD lost 4.6 Million 7 months after it launched!

  14. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Torto View Post
    Real estate, he got advice on real estate. I'm not seeing anywhere that it states Hannity had Cohen on retainer. But yes, let's wait and see.
    Cohen wouldn't list him as a client under oath. We get it, you're scared. Your right wing Gods are crumbling around you and you don't know where to turn. Just keep sticking your head farther up your anus and shouting MAGA.

  15. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Torto View Post
    Again, nothing to see here.
    If he isn't a client, why did he think he had attorney-client privilege?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maybach View Post
    Didn't Hannity deny point blank that he had ever been a client of Cohen?

    So either Hannity lied or Cohen lied to the judge!
    Hannity hasn’t been deposed or sworn under oath in any sense. He can lie his ass off all he wants right now with zero repercussion. Cohen on the other hand has a huge incentive to be truthful (though it’s still possible he was lying.)
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  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Tonus View Post
    Here's why people think Fox is partisan. Look at their coverage of the Comey book right now. On the front page, here are the articles:

    1. "Unworthy" of the FBI: Longtime special agent explains how Comey overstepped his bounds
    2. "Comey’s transformation from prosecutor to partisan"
    3. "Comey, Andrew McCabe will be brought to justice: Corey Lewandowski"
    4. "ABC News slammed for aggressively editing James Comey interview"
    5. "Comey's big ABC interview sidestepped his leaking to the press"
    6. "Comey's 'going-out-of-business' memoir full of tall, tawdry tales"
    7. "Comey’s ‘Higher Loyalty’ a bestseller even before release"
    8. "Comey has a psychological problem: Victoria Toensing"
    9. "Steyn: Comey, McCabe's behavior was borderline obstruction"

    Now compare to CNN:

    1. Analysis: The 70 must-see lines in Comey's bombshell interview
    2. Kellyanne Conway: All Comey had to do was keep mouth shut
    3. Comey reveals truth about hiding from Trump
    4. James Comey's Ego has a lot to answer for
    5. The Most Important Line in James Comey's ABC Interview

    Which of these seems more like real journalism, trying to present multiple sides, and which seems like "Let's discredit this as much as possible because it's going against our boy?" I don't think it's condescending to say that a network that is ideologically bankrupt is not worth listening to. It's just true.

    And for the record, I don't think MSNBC is any good either. I check Fox News to see what they have to say because I want to understand what people are hearing on Bullshit Mountain, but there's no reason to check on MSNBC because they're mostly irrelevant.
    I'm not sure of your point here, I don't think anyone outside of Fox has argued that Fox isn't partisan. The only people who watch Fox are those looking for confirmation bias or those looking to get a different point of view from the relentless left wing media. But to argue that CNN is the bastion of integrity and impartiality is the most laughable thing I've read anywhere in a very long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torgent View Post
    Cohen wouldn't list him as a client under oath. We get it, you're scared. Your right wing Gods are crumbling around you and you don't know where to turn. Just keep sticking your head farther up your anus and shouting MAGA.
    Was he a client tho? Hannity and Cohen were long time friends, was he being paid for real estate advice? More importantly, what does it matter in the end?

  18. #78
    CNN is far more trustworthy than FOX. Whatever bias you find with CNN hosts and pundits is amplified times a thousand over at FOX. Perhaps the only person working at FOX that has an ounce of integrity is Sheppard Smith.

    Claiming any kind of "both sides do it" nonsense doesn't work here. CNN does have bias. FOX is straight up propaganda network.

  19. #79
    Cohengate. Its about ethics in political journalism.

  20. #80
    There's a story about an alter boy/prostitute in here somewhere, give it a few days...

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