“Why doesn’t Alleria just teleport a bunch of tanks into Orgrimmar and conquer it?”

[Friendlyimmolation]

Wards didn't seem to work for Dalaran very well -- we've had to stop two incursions on one of the most heavily warded places on Azeroth.

That's what happens when an archmage goes bad in Dalaran every 5 minutes.

[Pandragon]

Alleria doesn't "teleport" she can open a portal into the void. It allows things to travel unseen, but they still have to travel. You literally did this stuff on Argus, where it showed how these void portals work.

Why didn't the Alliance under Jaina used Dalaran as a flying fortress of firery doom in SoO?

Because it takes a lot of power to teleport Dalaran, plus the Kirin Tor are neutral, Jaina couldn't teleport the whole city by herself.

Why doesn't the Nelfes use Nordrassil or Teldrassils power to fuck up every Horde invasion?

Because they can't. It's not a font of immensely powerful energy they can draw on like that.

Why doesn't the Lightforge or Draenei use the Vindicaar in Lordaeron to blast a hole into the wall?

This is a stupid question. Wait until the expansion gets going and we see what the Vindicaar is doing before questioning it. It's probably off fighting some place else. The walls are stone, anything can blast a hole into it, they don't need the Vindicaar for that.

Why isnt Malfurion just hurricaning Orgrimmar into dust.

Yeah, he is a god after all..oh wait. If he did that than the horde would rush him. He isn't a supremely powerful being who can destroy all of Org in seconds.

[huth]

This is a stupid question. Wait until the expansion gets going and we see what the Vindicaar is doing before questioning it. It's probably off fighting some place else. The walls are stone, anything can blast a hole into it, they don't need the Vindicaar for that.

You see what it is doing during the Lightforged questline. It's just hanging out in Azeroth's orbit, being their new home.

[Deleted]

The attack on Undercity is simply pointless no matter how you look at it. The chances of capturing Sylvanas are basically zero considering that she could just jump through the portal to Orgrimmar like all the other civilians the Horde pc evacuates during the scenario.

Genn wants revenge and he is willing to sacrifice every single member of the Alliance to get it.

Yes, but it seems all of the Alliance leadership agreed. I don't think after Teldrassil they needed a lot of convincing to go for Undercity and Sylvanas, they are out for blood and none of the others (apart from Anduin) would probably care about actually capturing her, they'd rather kill her. Not only Genn anymore.

[Arrashi]

Utterly irrelevant. They're in space, they've been shown to be able to move through space with relative ease, therefore they're capable of kinetic bombardment.

That they're not shown to actually be doing it is due to the story being very short and very boring if they were. They're necessarily capable of doing it.

You're trying to argue against lore and established physics of the 'verse.

They are capable of doing so in a same way bilgewater cannon can destroy stormwind.

[Shibito]

They are capable of doing so in a same way bilgewater cannon can destroy stormwind.

Butbut goblin tech baaad, or whatever reason they give to pretend the horde doesnt have anything.

[nerv234]

Here is your answer:

1: Number of tanks that alliance have...

2: Horde have terrain advantage in Orgrimmar, so many spots from where horde could attack those tanks.

3: Alliance tanks aren't immune to damage.

4: Amount of energy/mana or whatever she use required to do so is probably massive so she couldn't teleport 20-40 tanks if she want but probably max 8-10.

5: Oculeth taking care of horde teleport systems, so maybe he'll make just some deffenses against unauthorizer teleports.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

Same reason Anakin tried to jump over Obi-Wan and failed.

We underestimated there power.

[Florena]

They are capable of doing so in a same way bilgewater cannon can destroy stormwind.

Says who? I mean I know the gun is pointed that direction, but we have no real indication that A. that cannon works and B. is powerful enough to destroy a city as we haven't seen it used to the best of my knowledge.

[nerv234]

Maybe new explosive azerite cannonball could destroy Stormwind.

[Skeletov]

And it doesn't show any ability to do what you are saying in game. So it is, a fanfiction.

Gravity is now fan fiction folks. You heard it from here!

[Verdugo]

I mean, sure, now she can transport units through warcraft equivalent of the warp without them losing their mind or mutating horribly. Who writes this shit.

Gravity is now fan fiction folks. You heard it from here!

Well they can suspend a nuke from the ship by ropes or something, its not very effective or precise but they could do that in theory.

[Arrashi]

I'm a little lost with the mental image people are having. Are they saying the Vindicaar doesn't have a way to get in or out outside of teleportation? And even so, how IRL jets/planes drop bombs/troops would just need to be mimiced, if we wanted to be so lazy.

The diffrence is that they don't drop them from above atmosphere.

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I mean, sure, now she can transport units through warcraft equivalent of the warp without them losing their mind or mutating horribly. Who writes this shit.

To be fair, these were gnomes. They probably don't have souls that could be affected.

[Aucald]

I mean, sure, now she can transport units through warcraft equivalent of the warp without them losing their mind or mutating horribly. Who writes this shit.

Passing through the Void doesn't have a deleterious effect on a person's mind unless you remain there, or run into one of the greater denizens of the Void. In Mac'Aree you pass through and into the Void several times without any marked effects - you also enter the Void during the Ner'zhul encounter back in WoD. Being in a Void for a small while won't harm anyone - but being attacked by a powerful Shadowguard Ethereal or an aspect of the Void Lords is not good. Taking power from the Void is also a conduit by which it can effect your sanity.

[Skeletov]

As for why Alleria isn't just teleporting in the middle of Orgrimmar with a token force of steam tanks... it's because it is way too risky.

Except getting into the enemy city is the entire point of a siege.

[mickybrighteyes]

Except getting into the enemy city is the entire point of a siege.

I thought the point of a seige was to break an enemy by restricting their position and soften them up for the eventual entry. Jumping straight into the middle of everything isn't exactly the best idea.

[Skeletov]

I thought the point of a seige was to break an enemy by restricting their position and soften them up for the eventual entry. Jumping straight into the middle of everything isn't exactly the best idea.

City defenses like walls and gatehouses are specifically designed to make that really fucking hard to do. Which is why sieges went on for years. You know what would be really useful to get around those defenses? Teleporting behind them. What's stopping Alleria from bringing the entire Alliance military with her for reinforcement? And what's stopping her from using the same teleporting power to retreat?

[Friendlyimmolation]

City defenses like walls and gatehouses are specifically designed to make that really fucking hard to do. Which is why sieges went on for years. You know what would be really useful to get around those defenses? Teleporting behind them. What's stopping Alleria from bringing the entire Alliance military with her for reinforcement? And what's stopping her from using the same teleporting power to retreat?

Horde mages who could re-direct her, or Horde soldiers simply killing people the moment they run through, or nightborne mages telemancy things right back.

[mickybrighteyes]

I mean... the way I learned about siege was:

the act or process of surrounding and attacking a fortified place in such a way as to isolate it from help and supplies, for the purpose of lessening the resistance of the defenders and thereby making capture possible.

the bold being the main idea... not this idea of getting into the city.

[Skeletov]

Horde mages who could re-direct her, or Horde soldiers simply killing people the moment they run through, or nightborne mages telemancy things right back.

So the entire appeal of the Void Elves having mastery over a new power is completely pointless because the Horde already knows how to counter it? Color me shocked.