Always the man. but im pre millenial. and pre feminist. they want "equality" might as well give em all it entails though. cant have your cake and eat it too.
Up to you. I'd take it as a warning sign if they didn't mention it or offer to pay, and simply expected you to pay for them, but I'd offer to pay it myself -- unless it was a very expensive restaurant that they themselves recommended, or if it wasn't technically a date persay.
As usual, context matters.
PS: This is for the first date, an the impression I'd be giving personally on it. Not for every date ever following that. I wouldn't expect to pay for every meal or anything. That said, there's a good chance that a first date could possibly involve me cooking, too; in which case I'd obviously 'pay' for it myself, so in the end it really just doesn't matter that much.
Last edited by therealbowser; 2018-04-21 at 03:29 PM.
I believe there was post like this before.
The problem with only doing those free things, is when you hear people talk about them as a great start or date they are often book ended with something that was paid for. You don't normally just go to and walk around on the beach aimlessly. You do something first. Cycling and hiking are okay date idea, just not great 1st date ideas. Not too many females are going to want to go off into the wilderness with somebody who is a stranger to them.
"Privilege is invisible to those who have it."
Man pays and gets sex afterwards (traditional)
or
Split (boring!)
False, on all things you've said.
You go do the free thing and then end it there. If it continues, that's another story. When you think about a "date" it is usually a one spot meet up then go home. If you feel compelled to "book-end" the evening with a paid fare, that's your decision not the rule.
Normally don't walk around the beach aimlessly? You sound like you've never been to the beach... You go there to talk, look at shells, collect sea glass, share memories. It's not aimless, it's hyper-intimate.
Cycling and hiking are epic first date ideas, hiking moreso. It isn't a climb up Mt. Everest. As you get in your late 20s and 30s, you become a lot more health conscious and hiking/cycling is a great way to break the ice.
Don't say my ideas aren't good. They're unconventional perhaps but... I have a 11 year relationship to speak for. I'm pretty sure I can keep a woman entertained
The person who pays should be the person who invited the other.
If person A asks person B out on a date, it is not logically the responsibility of person B to pay for something person A asked for. Person B does not implicitly have to pay for anything- they are the guest.
Asking for equity in this is a gross misunderstanding of gender politics and relationship dynamics. And also, responsibility.
Everyone should pay on first dates.
The one who asks the other to come with them. They're the one 'hosting' the date and so the one who should pay.
"Quack, quack, Mr. Bond."
The person who invites pays.
Implied, men should invite, it's their role.
Therefore men should pay, but I'm not going to say it out loud because I like to pretend feminism is about equality.
Signed, every SJW in this thread.
Case in point, quoted from another poster: "The person who asked for the date, MAN the fuck up.".
Last edited by Azmoden; 2018-04-22 at 04:06 AM.
"That shit went down faster than a gold digger on a dying rich dude".
If you believe in equality and fairness, I would say whoever asked the other person out on a date.
"Quack, quack, Mr. Bond."
I've usually taken the initiative to pay the whole bill, my date quite often offering to pay for ~her share. No problem with that.