Broken and Light

[darkoms]

Is it possible to turn Broken or Lost One into a Lightforged?

[Golden Yak]

I've never really understood the particular reason why Broken can no longer connect with the Light of Creation. How does the fel corruption block it? If a straight-up demon like Lothraxion can be Lightforged, surely the Broken can touch the Light again? Maybe with Argus' worldsoul freed from the Legion they can come up with some rationale for the Broken being able to re-connect with the Light.

[Haven]

A broken was once turned into a normal draenei in Cataclysm, in swamp of sorrows. It's Light, it's basically Warcraft god who can do everything, including fuck up Leech King's story with a straight intervention.

[darkoms]

A broken was once turned into a normal draenei in Cataclysm, in swamp of sorrows. It's Light, it's basically Warcraft god who can do everything, including fuck up Leech King's story with a straight intervention.

Tell me about this draenei.
Oh God, again this stupid nonsense about the Light and Arthas ... LIGHT DOES NOT HAVE MIND. HE CAN NOT INTERFERE PERSONALLY. Arthas lost because the Paladin broke his chains and broke his Frostmourne. If the druid kills someone, it does not mean that nature itself killed someone. If a mage kills someone, it does not mean that arcane itself killen someone.

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I've never really understood the particular reason why Broken can no longer connect with the Light of Creation. How does the fel corruption block it? If a straight-up demon like Lothraxion can be Lightforged, surely the Broken can touch the Light again? Maybe with Argus' worldsoul freed from the Legion they can come up with some rationale for the Broken being able to re-connect with the Light.

Broken for Draenor became such because of the Red Mist, which was partially created with the help of the Void.
But what about the Broken from Argus I'm not sure.

[Raetary]

A broken was once turned into a normal draenei in Cataclysm, in swamp of sorrows. It's Light, it's basically Warcraft god who can do everything, including fuck up Leech King's story with a straight intervention.

its nothing like a god.
its a cosmic force that together with the void makes up the entire universe.

[Kharli]

A broken was once turned into a normal draenei in Cataclysm, in swamp of sorrows. It's Light, it's basically Warcraft god who can do everything, including fuck up Leech King's story with a straight intervention.

This was after he had died, he become one with the Light, The Light did not turn him back into a norma draenei from a broken, rather his spirit remained that of a Draenei(in apperance).

[Kyphael]

I've never really understood the particular reason why Broken can no longer connect with the Light of Creation. How does the fel corruption block it? If a straight-up demon like Lothraxion can be Lightforged, surely the Broken can touch the Light again? Maybe with Argus' worldsoul freed from the Legion they can come up with some rationale for the Broken being able to re-connect with the Light.

Apparently it can do everything but purify Illidan. =P That either speaks volumes for Illidan's badassery or your overstatement of the Light's power. lol

[Deleted]

From what I've gathered, the Krokul on Argus became what they are due to long-term exposure, rather than the single catastrophic event that created the Broken on Draenor?

As far as Lightforging is concerned, it probably could heal the Broken, but it may that the option is simply not available to them. I can imagine the Lightforged Draenei having a low opinion of their afflicted brethren, given that regular Draenei already view them with some degree of contempt.

[Haven]

Tell me about this draenei.
Oh God, again this stupid nonsense about the Light and Arthas ... LIGHT DOES NOT HAVE MIND. HE CAN NOT INTERFERE PERSONALLY. Arthas lost because the Paladin broke his chains and broke his Frostmourne. If the druid kills someone, it does not mean that nature itself killed someone. If a mage kills someone, it does not mean that arcane itself killen someone.

Yeah yeah, it's Tirion Fordring suddenly went super saiyan and one-shot LK and it makes sense... No, it doesn't. What exactly made him strong enough to do this that he didn't have at the start of the fight? It was, and still is, the biggest, fattest Deus Ex Machina in WoW, a literal divine intervention. Doesn't matter how it's called, a god or entity, Light, The Force, Justice, whatever. If it's an object of religious worship, it's all the same, and when it directly intervenes into a story, it's called divine intervention.

[darkoms]

Yeah yeah, it's Tirion Fordring suddenly went super saiyan and one-shot LK and it makes sense... No, it doesn't. What exactly made him strong enough to do this that he didn't have at the start of the fight? It was, and still is, the biggest, fattest Deus Ex Machina in WoW, a literal divine intervention. Doesn't matter how it's called, a god or entity, Light, The Force, Justice, whatever. If it's an object of religious worship, it's all the same, and when it directly intervenes into a story, it's called divine intervention.

Tirion-paladin, it is obvious that he can use Light. Enough of bullshit. Light is energy, not a rational being.

[Calfredd]

Tirion-paladin, it is obvious that he can use Light. Enough of bullshit. Light is energy, not a rational being.

Neither was X'era
/rimshot

[Dellis0991]

I assumed the dreanai become broken when they are cut off from the light and or have their faith in the light broken and sometimes they descend further into despair and become lost ones. We know more about void lords then we do about the beings who stand on the end of the light.....who are they? If they wanted to could they reverse every curse or affliction like undeath, broken, lost, worgen, satyr, naga?

[Haven]

Tirion-paladin, it is obvious that he can use Light. Enough of bullshit. Light is energy, not a rational being.

Yeah, so what exactly prevented Tirion from one-shotting LK in the very beginning of the fight, raid, or expansion? He had all the same power at his disposal.

It doesn't have to be a rational being to be a deus ex machina. Besides, many Christians would also argue that God is energy/entity/everything/some other metaphysical bullshit, not a rational being.

[Dellis0991]

I assumed the dreanai become broken when they are cut off from the light and or have their faith in the light broken and sometimes they descend further into despair and become lost ones. We know more about void lords then we do about the beings who stand on the end of the light.....who are they? If they wanted to could they reverse every curse or affliction like undeath, broken, lost, worgen, satyr, naga?

Ah fel plague is the cause.

[darkoms]

Yeah, so what exactly prevented Tirion from one-shotting LK in the very beginning of the fight, raid, or expansion? He had all the same power at his disposal.

It doesn't have to be a rational being to be a deus ex machina. Besides, many Christians would also argue that God is energy/entity/everything/some other metaphysical bullshit, not a rational being.

What does it matter what people say in the real world? We are talking about the Warcraft

[OmniSkribe]

Yeah, so what exactly prevented Tirion from one-shotting LK in the very beginning of the fight, raid, or expansion? He had all the same power at his disposal.

Ehhh, dramatic writing? Literally any movie/anime where hero getting beaten during the fight only to gather all it's strength for one last move.

You are looking too deep into it.

[gutnbrg]

Tell me about this draenei.
Oh God, again this stupid nonsense about the Light and Arthas ... LIGHT DOES NOT HAVE MIND. HE CAN NOT INTERFERE PERSONALLY. Arthas lost because the Paladin broke his chains and broke his Frostmourne. If the druid kills someone, it does not mean that nature itself killed someone. If a mage kills someone, it does not mean that arcane itself killen someone.

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Broken for Draenor became such because of the Red Mist, which was partially created with the help of the Void.
But what about the Broken from Argus I'm not sure.

did u just assume the lights gender?

[Calfredd]

Broken for Draenor became such because of the Red Mist, which was partially created with the help of the Void.
But what about the Broken from Argus I'm not sure.

The Red Mist was a modified Red Pox made by Legion-aligned warlocks (Shadow Council) so if anything, it was partially created with the help of the Fel.

[JTHMRulez1]

A broken was once turned into a normal draenei in Cataclysm, in swamp of sorrows. It's Light, it's basically Warcraft god who can do everything, including fuck up Leech King's story with a straight intervention.

Which straight intervention was that? Because Tirion did that by himself.

[Haven]

Ehhh, dramatic writing? Literally any movie/anime where hero getting beaten during the fight only to gather all it's strength for one last move.

You are looking too deep into it.

Yeah I know. It's just the contrast that kills me. Lich King's elaborate scheme had him conceal his true power to play with mortals, luring the best of the best to repeat his own path, to remake them into unstoppable generals in his own image... Lol oneshot cuz Light! Lamest way to end the story that was so good since WC3.

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Which straight intervention was that? Because Tirion did that by himself.

Why didn't he do it with his bare hands at the start of expansion then?