White Family Beats Down 2 Police Officers. Miraculously, No One Gets Shot

[Deleted]

Better an ivory tower liberal than an anti-intellectual, quite frankly.

Exactly what do you think we are studying in our ivory towers, out of curiosity? Hint: It's the big picture of the real world. "Personal experience" might as well be a euphemism for "confirmation bias".

you have never even lived in the real world. your about as knowledgeable as an 18th century European talking about the culture of china, false authority on something you know nothing about.

a useful ideot for the bourgeoisie to sow division into the working class to keep them down and put the right wing in power.

[Elegiac]

you have never even lived in the real world.

He/she/it said, despite having no actual knowledge of who I am or what I do.

your about as knowledgeable as an 18th century European talking about the culture of china, false authority on something you know nothing about.

I get that there's this persistent narrative of intellectuals being divorced from "real society", but again; exactly what do you think is being studied.

a useful ideot for the bourgeoisie to sow division into the working class to keep them down and put the right wing in power.

The working class is doing just fine with putting the right wing into power without any help from me.

[f3llyn]

It isn't about blame, but again, one can't expect much from people that are using rhetoric identical from the 19th century.

Which is exactly why you're blaming white people from 40-50-60 years ago for why police are racist right now.

[Deleted]

True, there has always been ghettos, however what makes the US's case of segregation so extreme, is how pervasive it was in every state in the union. Over decades millions of freed black slaves moved to US cities with their families, trying to make a living, and all of them were denied, ran off, detained, lynched. They would move into neighborhoods and then the next night their homes would burn to the ground. It was part and parcel in American culture to isolate black people that there are now colloquial connotations like, on the other side of the railroad tracks, welcome to the trap, etc. Look up the economic numbers and unemployment rates between blacks and whites.

also, to add to my last reply, do you not find it at least a bit suspicious that all this race baiting and anti-immigrant and anti-benefit rhetoric suddenly shot to the front of the media at the same time as the financial crisis and occupy walstreet ?


these so called "ivory tower, middle class liberals" are just more of the bourgeoisie, ask your self who really benefits from dividing the working class vote based on race ?

[Elegiac]

also, to add to my last reply, do you not find it at least a bit suspicious that all this race baiting and anti-immigrant and anti-benefit rhetoric suddenly shot to the front of the media at the same time as the financial crisis and occupy walstreet ?

Not in the slightest. People are ready and willing to look for easy scapegoats during periods of socioeconomic crisis.

[Deleted]

He/she/it said, despite having no actual knowledge of who I am or what I do.



I get that there's this persistent narrative of intellectuals being divorced from "real society", but again; exactly what do you think is being studied.



The working class is doing just fine with putting the right wing into power without any help from me.

bourgeoisie reading books from bourgeoisie being taught be bourgeoisie about matters that the bourgeoisie have no knowledge of.

dividing the working class based on race benefit's only your class, not the one im from and not the black, white, gay, straight, male or female people still stuck there.

you and your kind put trump in power. by creating the social and economical conditions for him to grow, you class caused the "rust belt", your class stagnated the trickle down effect and now you think to blame the working class ? divde us by race so we can never oppose you with a unified voice ?

you day will come....

[Lorgar Aurelian]

But I agree with that, What we are talking about right now is that the media cry racism anytime a black (man) person is killed. And it's almost always a member of the ghetto culture on your third picture. Now if they cried because an innocent was killed sure, but skin color is at the center of the debate you will agree, and the fact is those ghetto criminals make a bigger percentage of the total Black population than criminals do in the White population (two very heterogenous groups, again, I agree).

So all this means is that seeing that black people are disproportionally victim of police violence is not enough evidence to accuse the police of racism. Because even if they were justified in every single case of fatal shooting (of course they are not) black or white, we would observe a similar distribution : criminals would get shot more, and the higher number of criminals (of course still a minority) in the black population would give about the results we have now.

Nobody is denying that there is a lot of diversity in the black and white populations and that these very notions of white and black do not mean much, but people who accuse the police of racism go by skin color only, so of course the answer is to analyze stats by skin color...

Now if black non criminals are more likely to be shot than white non criminals or if black criminals are more likely to get shot than white criminals THEN it is racism. But I have seen no evidence so far and numbers are much harder to find. People who make claims that the police are shooting black people because they are racist need to use these numbers.

As far as the media goes there pretty awful as yes they play up every shooting as a race thing instead of a culture thing. The bigger problem in my opinion though is the crime stats them selfs. Just breaking them p by skin colour makes a flase view that people commit more crime just because there black so people focus on that instead of the groups who are the actual problem which would be as you said the 3rd picture there.

[Elegiac]

bourgeoisie reading books from bourgeoisie being taught be bourgeoisie about matters that the bourgeoisie have no knowledge of.

You can just say "anti-intellectualism", bub.

dividing the working class based on race benefit's only your class, not the one im from and not the black, white, gay, straight, male or female people still stuck there.

This is nothing but Marxist swill.

Exactly how do you expect to understand demographic issues if you aren't permitted to actually, you know, study demography?

you and your kind put trump in power. by creating the social and economical conditions for him to grow, you class caused the "rust belt", your class stagnated the trickle down effect and now you think to blame the working class ? divde us by race so we can never oppose you with a unified voice ?

How utterly ridiculous. The conditions for the emergence of the post-industrial economy were inevitable without a concerted effort to lock the economy into eternal stasis.

[Deleted]

Not in the slightest. People are ready and willing to look for easy scapegoats during periods of socioeconomic crisis.

and its you're middle class poison that is more than willing to provide

“We cannot be a union of states if we fail to unite as people.”
― DaShanne Stokes

[Tico]

How surprising, indeed.

[Elegiac]

and its you're middle class poison that is more than willing to provide

I'm not in the habit of providing minority scapegoats for systemic problems, thanks.

[Deleted]

You can just say "anti-intellectualism", bub.



This is nothing but Marxist swill.

Exactly how do you expect to understand demographic issues if you aren't permitted to actually, you know, study demography?



How utterly ridiculous. The conditions for the emergence of the post-industrial economy were inevitable without a concerted effort to lock the economy into eternal stasis.

You poisen Incites the blacks against the whites, whilst the right wing poisens the whites against the blacks, and by those degree's is the working class turned upon its self, a situation from which only your poisonous kind benefit.

You can label it with all your fancy terms, scoff all you want but people in both the black and white working class are starting to see through the lies, from the hollowed out halls of the decrepit factorys and from the slums, the trailer parks and the ghettos there will come a reckoning for you and yours Mark my words.

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I'm not in the habit of providing minority scapegoats for systemic problems, thanks.

You have been providing all through out this thread.

Don't blame the banker, blame your skin colour.....

Utter poison.

[Cizr]

Were you raised in Chicago's south side? What about South L.A.? Drug-related violent crime is a direct result from mandated poverty through explicit prejudice and exclusion. Entire city blocks near train stations, heavy industrial zones, water treatment plants, graveyards were converted into public housing to force minority populations into them since the majority white neighborhoods instituted racist housing covenants and HOA by-laws.

NOTHING forces you to kill another human

[Deleted]

As far as the media goes there pretty awful as yes they play up every shooting as a race thing instead of a culture thing. The bigger problem in my opinion though is the crime stats them selfs. Just breaking them p by skin colour makes a flase view that people commit more crime just because there black so people focus on that instead of the groups who are the actual problem which would be as you said the 3rd picture there.

The fundemental point the race narrative undermines is a divided working class based on race only servers the upper and middle class. We cannot fix any race issue whilst we are divided by race or sex, we cannot fix any class issue whilst we are divided by race or sex.

And to be unified we need to be behind a common cause.

In 2009 the bankers and the burocrats fuck all of us at the bottom, black, white, gay, stright, male and female. And got away with it because they turned us all on each other, through a two pronged narrative, the ivory tower liberals incited the women and the minority's whilst the Alt Right incited the majority.

And what happend?

A millionaire became president.

[Scathbais]

https://www.theroot.com/white-family...sly-1826622347

Too funny how you can't even critically analyze a situation without your bias getting in the way.

First off, you don't open fire on someone who is holding your partner close to his body. You are putting your partners life in danger. So both police officers would not open fire if they could potentially kill their partner.

Same goes for the third officer once the second officer is assaulted.

Lastly, it was a family gathering, so there were innocent people standing around. You can't shoot if you might hit innocent bystanders.

But, feel free to inject racism into the argument.

[petej0]

So why aren't you blaming the system as opposed to the culture it created?

BECAUSE THE FUCKING CULTURE IS WHAT IS CONTINUING TO PROPAGATE HOW PEOPLE VIEW THOSE WHO LIVE BY THAT CULTURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unlike you, I'm more of a mind to rectify this issue at its actual source rather than putting bandaids on proximate symptoms.

The only thing you can do to rectify the issue is to remove the stigma that the culture has generated.

Where are they?

Pull a Republican electoral roll.

Are there racists? Sure, that does not mean all republicans are racist though. So again, tell me why banks wouldnt loan money to poor blacks to buy homes when they loaned money to anyone who had a fucking pulse. Oh, wait let me guess they are victims of predatory lending?

Putting a bandaid over the venous stasis ulcer will totally prevent future ulcerations, you guys.

Its not a bandaid. If you are present yourself as a thug, dont be surprised if you are treated as a thug. It has nothing to do with how someones great grandfather was a racist, it has to do with how that person perceives another individual based on appearance before they have a chance to judge that person based on character.

[Elegiac]

You poisen Incites the blacks against the whites, whilst the right wing poisens the whites against the blacks, and by those degree's is the working class turned upon its self, a situation from which only your poisonous kind benefit.

You can label it with all your fancy terms, scoff all you want but people in both the black and white working class are starting to see through the lies, from the hollowed out halls of the decrepit factorys and from the slums, the trailer parks and the ghettos there will come a reckoning for you and yours Mark my words.

Are you really devolving to the level of complaining that I use big words?

You have been providing all through out this thread.

Don't blame the banker, blame your skin colour.....

Utter poison.

Which is why I've been levying blame at the system the entire thread rather than blaming "black culture".

Sure, Jan.

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BECAUSE THE FUCKING CULTURE IS WHAT IS CONTINUING TO PROPAGATE HOW PEOPLE VIEW THOSE WHO LIVE BY THAT CULTURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And that culture is instigated and reinforced by systemic efforts to keep African Americans as an impoverished underclass. QED.

The only thing you can do to rectify the issue is to remove the stigma that the culture has generated.

Prithee, how do you intend to do this without promoting access to and thus investment in the prevailing social order.

Are there racists? Sure, that does not mean all republicans are racist though. So again, tell me why banks wouldnt loan money to poor blacks to buy homes when they loaned money to anyone who had a fucking pulse. Oh, wait let me guess they are victims of predatory lending?

Well yes, they were.

But that's besides the point. The practice of issuing subprime loans does not remotely imply there isn't a long history of locking certain demographics out of the credit market whenever possible. Sometimes greed overcomes bias.

Its not a bandaid. If you are present yourself as a thug, dont be surprised if you are treated as a thug. It has nothing to do with how someones great grandfather was a racist, it has to do with how that person perceives another individual based on appearance before they have a chance to judge that person based on character.

So you're admitting the problem is prejudice, lol.

[Deleted]

Are you really devolving to the level of complaining that I use big words?



Which is why I've been levying blame at the system the entire thread rather than blaming "black culture".

Sure, Jan.

Your blaming a system designed to keep the poor poor and scape goating it to make out it only keeps the blacks poor, your litteraly race baiting.

[Pickynerd]

As far as the media goes there pretty awful as yes they play up every shooting as a race thing instead of a culture thing. The bigger problem in my opinion though is the crime stats them selfs. Just breaking them p by skin colour makes a flase view that people commit more crime just because there black so people focus on that instead of the groups who are the actual problem which would be as you said the 3rd picture there.

War is beneficial to all those who don't fight it.

The media fuels the few hot cinders in order to make a huge fire that they can use to keep warm.

As long as the people continue to segregate themselves, the real problems will be ignored. But hey, 24/7 news is a big business, there is money to be made and as long as people want to be victims, they will continually be victims. Keep making special little groups to blame other people who are just trying to live their lives, surely it will work.

[Elegiac]

Your blaming a system designed to keep the poor poor and scape goating it to make out it only keeps the blacks poor, your litteraly race baiting.

Uh, what?

The two aren't mutually exclusive.