Portland Preparing as Two Violent Far-Right Groups Rally

[Coombs]

Antifa showing up to these things does more to cement people on the right in their beliefs than any rally could ever achieve if the Proud Goys showed up alone.

This should be no different than the other multitudes of protests/events that span across the major PNW cities. When the crazies come out you just ignore it like a rational person and stay inside or out of the city that day. Or plan ahead and get out of the god awful traffic and the area for the weekend.

[Cerilis]

They rally again? Don't they have jobs?

[Masark]

Antifa showing up to these things does more to cement people on the right in their beliefs than any rally could ever achieve if the Proud Goys showed up alone.

Yes, we've all fully aware that your brains have completely ossified.

[Deleted]

I completely agree with your last sentence. It's hard to find examples of when a catastrophic event was prevented because it's hard to find evidence of something that didn't happen. However, look at the example of how Hitler rose to power in Germany. It became obvious to the other political factions that Hitler and his followers were very angry about a number of issues, and it was believed that suppressing their voice would make them more aggrieved. So, Hitler's party was allowed gradual more influence in the government, more seats, and was eventually given concessions on an international stage. This only made him stronger.

This is really skewed, they gave him more power because he got more followers, not because they were afraid of ostracizing him. There were street wars in interwar germany between the left and right, this made the center (non extreme) look weak, toothless this is what won the undecided over to hitler, because the communists were despised for their attempts at revolution that time and time again wrecked the nation.

And so, a new workers party became the solution, that at the surface seemed to have the germans best interest in mind but also echoed the weakness of the republican government and the bolsheviks.

[Linkedblade]

Every time facist/white supremacists groups like these hold rallies in America, they're testing the waters to see how far they can go in public and how many they can recruit. If no one stands up to them, they'll get a little stronger every time until they have enough political will to build the ethno-state they want. We shouldn't fool ourselves that it can't happen here.

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If the other side is willing and ready to use violence, it's probably a good idea to be prepared to defend yourself or others that are attacked.

But the left is a bunch of younger 20 year olds larping as proletariat revolutionaries when the actual proletariat is the right that they are demonizing...

[Rooflesstoofless]

Yes, we've all fully aware that your brains have completely ossified.

Not really. My posts are largely left-to-center till about a year ago. Now the left is reached levels of retardation where even following Obama’s stances on public policy will get you labeled a Nazi fascist.

[Deleted]

This is what happens when left-wingers decide to treat right-wingers like they are all nazi scum instead of listening to their concerns. The Proud Boys are not white supremacists, they are nationalists. They believe in protecting western values and maintaining the integrity of a sovereign nation. That doesn't mean hating brown people, that means protecting Americans first, whether they be black, brown or white.

Came here from Stormfront did we?

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Not really. My posts are largely left-to-center till about a year ago. Now the left is reached levels of retardation where even following Obama’s stances on public policy will get you labeled a Nazi fascist.

Yes, yes you've been forced into being a nazi by those evil liberals, very original.

[Rooflesstoofless]

Came here from Stormfront did we?

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Yes, yes you've been forced into being a nazi by those evil liberals, very original.

And what forces you to be retarded?

Considering I’m not a Nazi or even white...

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[Celista]

But the left is a bunch of younger 20 year olds larping as proletariat revolutionaries when the actual proletariat is the right that they are demonizing...

Uh...Trump nominated all rich people/CEOs for his cabinet, how does the right exemplify the proletariat?

[Huulo]

But the left is a bunch of younger 20 year olds larping as proletariat revolutionaries when the actual proletariat is the right that they are demonizing...

This is a commonly-held myth. Extensive studies were done of the 2016 election and found that it was social factors and not economic factors that led voters to chose Trump.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/24/u...c-anxiety.html

It's actually conservatives in the US who are hurting the working class, and liberals who are trying to help them.

[Travis B]

Why is "racists" in quotes? There were people at Charlottesville with literal Nazi flags. Avowed white supremacists were in attendance with their organizations.

Haven't you heard? The real racists are the ones who are against racism. Just like the real fascists are the ones who are against fascism.

I'm being sarcastic of course, but that is how people like the guy you replied to truly think.

[Saucexorzski]

Communist and Nazis fighting it out doesn't seem like a problem to me...seems be a great event to capitalize upon. Sell tickets, vids, t-shirts...

[JohnBrown1917]

Do you guys really buy your own bullshit, or is somebody feeding you this crap?

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They rally again? Don't they have jobs?

They have enough money to go to Portland on the short bus.

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But the left is a bunch of younger 20 year olds larping as proletariat revolutionaries when the actual proletariat is the right that they are demonizing...

Ye, nobody is buying that they are pushing fot policies to fuck themselves over, keep dreaming.

[Celista]

Looks like that.

Noam Chomsky, which would have been probably described as far-left by most publications before the rise of social justice and progressive leftism, also said that Antifa is a huge gift to the right, and I agree. The right is ecstatic they convinced the left to fight on their own terms, i.e. violently. Gone is the moral superiority.

I bet Noam would be described as far-right because of these statements I mean, anyone not deeply "progressive" is far-right.

Posts like this are what happens when your groupthink levels reach 9000.

[Rooflesstoofless]

A guy pulled a gun and shot it at people in Charlotesville. Of course, that was ignored, because the asshole with the car rammed into a group of people.

Didn’t he shoot at someone trying to make use of an improvised flame thrower?

That’s just fighting fire with fire.

[Machismo]

Didn’t he shoot at someone trying to make use of an improvised flame thrower?

That’s just fighting fire with fire.

Nope.

He just pulled it out, shot, then looked stupid.

Racist people are stupid, what can I say.

[Aritos]

Sure is interesting how there's people protesting these "Violent Far Right groups" inside their masses right now in Portland and are being mostly ignored by those "violent" people.

Also interesting how currently the police spotted weapons on the side of Antifa, and have told them to disperse immediately.

[Rooflesstoofless]

Nope.

He just pulled it out, shot, then looked stupid.

Racist people are stupid, what can I say.

Wasn’t it this guy vs this guy?

[theostrichsays]

Didn’t he shoot at someone trying to make use of an improvised flame thrower?

That’s just fighting fire with fire.

Nope.

He just pulled it out, shot, then looked stupid.

Racist people are stupid, what can I say.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/27/us/ma...lly/index.html

There is the video. Clearly the improvised flame thrower (which is pretty big stretch on that) is there but the guy was walking away and then turned around and opened fire. He was pretty clearly in the wrong and deservedly went to jail (as did Corey Long the man with the flames).

But he wasn't in any danger when he turned around, but there was a flaming device there and he was spraying people prior to the shot fired.

Edit: posted to slowly I guess.

[Linkedblade]

This is a commonly-held myth. Extensive studies were done of the 2016 election and found that it was social factors and not economic factors that led voters to chose Trump.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/24/u...c-anxiety.html

It's actually conservatives in the US who are hurting the working class, and liberals who are trying to help them.

The constituents of the right are mostly middle American, white, working and middle class.