«You call for peace when it suits you»

[Candy Cough]

Sylvanas seems to have a point

Remember that time when the explorers league wiped out a tribe of tauren because they didnt want their lands dug up
Or the time Genn assaulted the horde during the broken shore out of petty revenge
Or that time they attacked and murdered innocent goblin miners
Or when Greymane sabotaged her, trying to enslave that valkyr. Quit the crap, warlocks enslave demons, death knights enslave undead, hunters enslave beasts. Whats the difference?
Or when they gunned down innocent orcs
Or when they burned camp taurajo to the ground
Or when they sabotaged mana sourcea the blood elves need to have to sate their addiction
Or when they tortured and brutally beat orcs in concentration camps
Or when they try to assassinate Gallywix and kill Golfers and waiters

And anduin has the guts to say the horde are evil and they didnt want a war

Not saying the horde is perfect far from it, but the alliance seem to think they are.

Edit: they gunned down unarmed orcs in pandaria, the tauren tribe was Stonespire, and the valkyr are already slaves to odin. It would just be to swap masters. Alleria plots to assassinate gallywix in a war campaign and you raid his pleasure palace. Gallywix outsmarts her however.
Alliance also murdered and shot at a neutral goblin ship for no reason, in the goblin starter zone.
And goblin miners attacking first was a retcon to whitewash the alliance as usual. Do you see any of the warcrimes above ever being mentioned again? Of course not because alliance crimes are ALWAYS white washed and retconned to give them a good light. Such is blizzards writing

[Khallid]

History is not a thing anymore. We have the collective memory of a fish, and Anduin has done nothing wrong ever :P

[death87]

grasping too many straws there OP

[owbu]

Since she was adressing Anduin, I think her point is pretty stupid. The only thing he did wrong was not punishing Genn for that idiotic attack he did in Legion.


(Also lol @ what's the difference :>)

[SleepsAtDay]

I’m not up on my history, but I think only two of those things actually happened on Anduin’s watch.

[ls-]

History is not a thing anymore. We have the collective memory of a fish, and Anduin has done nothing wrong ever :P

Technically, he hasn't. He hasn't done anything major at all, yet

[deviantcultist]

grasping too many straws there OP

Same thing for every Sylvanas-defending thread.

[AceofH]

i mean if you want to point out the treatment of orcs in the concentration camps you have to remember that those same orcs came from a different world, attacked them, and were completely bent on genocide.
and it's not like the Horde isn't without its fair share of atrocities.
-Attacking Gilneas (with the blight)
-Attacking Ashenvale
-Betrayal at the broken front in Icecrown
-Bombing a school of Druids?
-Burning a tree full of non combatants?
-Attacking Southshore, again, with the blight?
-Nuking Thereamore?

and that's barely scratching the surface.

[guisadop]

This. Just because the Horde attacked first for no reason it doesn't mean they want a war.

[Deleted]

And anduin has the guts to say the horde are evil

When did Golden Boy say that the Horde is evil? He only said that little meanie Sylvanas Windrunner is evil.

But don't worry, Horde players. Once this madness is over, Golden Boy will redeem you all through the power of love and friendship.

[Darkguyver2020]

Of course, the Alliance is nothing but one big pile of hypocrisy.

And the Horde is one big pile of shit.

[Deleted]

The entire statement is based on nothing.

It was the worst comeback ever.

[Zeos]

In this case, there was a strong likelihood that during a post-Legion peace, the Alliance was going to bully the Horde into saving Azeroth their way. They had the bigger army, better world healers, and more regional influence.

[Andromedes]

Of course, the Alliance is nothing but one big pile of hypocrisy.

Horde is big pile of mental gymnastics.

[Eosia]

Notice Anduin's dialogue when you get the quest. He talks about retaking Lordaeron. Nothing about justice or revenge for Teldrassil. Nope. All about taking Lordaeron from its rightful inhabitants.

[sillag]

those are nice examples but it really doesn't matter any more. in this world of moral relativity blizzard is trying to construct, literally all of the alliances's worst deeds are basically nothing compared to what the horde does constantly. the alliance is the only working alternative to the horde, and because the horde has been made pure evil, the alliance will always look purely good, no matter how many times you say taurajo.

[Kiingy]

Remember that time when the explorers league wiped out a tribe of tauren because they didnt want their lands dug up

Don't the tauren kill those at the Bael'dun digsite in Mulgore?
Edit: Turns out nope! They actually allowed them to continue with oversite.

In regards to the explorer's league, which tribe did they kill?

Or the time Genn assaulted the horde during the broken shore out of petty revenge

Anduin wasn't king at that time.

Or that time they attacked and murdered innocent goblin miners

You mean the ones in Silithus? The ones the Alliance only attacked after the Horde killed the explorers' league dwarves sent to find out whats happening with the sword killing our planet? Those ones?

Or when Greymane sabotaged her, trying to enslave that valkyr. Quit the crap, warlocks enslave demons, death knights enslave undead, hunters enslave beasts. Whats the difference?

Demons are evil and will try to kill you if given the chance.
The undead DK's control are mindless beings, ghouls or scourge aligned undead that will again try to kill you given the chance.
Beasts are beasts, also the connection between hunter and pet is not enslavement, it's mutual loyalty, have you ever even played a hunter?

Val'kyr are sapient and Eyir wasn't our enemy. When a Val'kyr resurrects people part of them is "lost" as a result, Sylvanas would have forced Eyir to resurrect the dead until she herself wasted away.

Or when they gunned down innocent orcs

Gonna have to be more specific here? When did Anduin gun down Orcs?

Or when they burned camp taurajo to the ground

Anduin wasn't King.

Or when they sabotaged mana sourcea the blood elves need to have to sate their addiction

Anduin wasn't King. Also remember the time the Alliance infiltrated the Sunwell Plateau, defeated Kil'jaeden then gave the Sunwell back to the Blood Elves? Yep, in canon that was Alliance.

Or when they tortured and brutally beat orcs in concentration camps

You mean when Anduin was not a King?
When the Alliance didn't just outright kill the invading alien army from another world that they had literally destroyed and before their defeat had destroyed stormwind and countless human settlements south of Thandol Span? Yeah I remember that.

Or when they try to assassinate Gallywix and kill Golfers and waiters

Again, gonna have to be specific here, when did Anduin try to assasinate Gallywix?

And anduin has the guts to say the horde are evil and they didnt want a war

It's been quite clear to everyone that Anduin has been trying to avoid a war long before he was ever King, he often fought with Varian over his decisions concering the Horde before his death.

[Camthur]

The Goblins attacked the Explorer's League first in Silithus. Any Horde deaths were their own fault for being stupid.

Genn Assaulted the fleet in Stormheim because the Alliance found proof in Azsuna that the Horde was up to something.

The Sha caused the Alliance to gun down Orcs in Jade Forest. (hey, if "blood lust" means the Orcs aren't guilty, neither are those other guys)

The Tauren in the Barrens were given a clear opening in which to escape through. It's unfortunate that Quillboar were that way, but the Alliance didn't know that.

Orcs are freaking lucky to have been in those camps in the first place. The good guys were well within their rights to put down those murderous animals.

[Casperite]

Notice Anduin's dialogue when you get the quest. He talks about retaking Lordaeron. Nothing about justice or revenge for Teldrassil. Nope. All about taking Lordaeron from its rightful inhabitants.

This. Not to mention him bringing an usuper to Arathi Highlands in Before the Storm, knowing full well she had thoughts of taking back Lordaeron.

[Faroth]

hunters enslave beasts..

How very dare you, sir. That is not true whatsoever! They are our closest friends!