The biggest problem with WoD was mostly due to the lack of content. The leveling experience was praised and the garrisons were not a problem just yet.
The biggest problem with WoD was mostly due to the lack of content. The leveling experience was praised and the garrisons were not a problem just yet.
I don't want solutions. I want to be mad. - PoorlyDrawnlines
The thing im curious about is from what time perspective are the complaints coming from. Are these people playing something like 12 + hours a day or they playing a smaller, more sensible amount.
Not enough content? Change you dislike?
Unsub or sub later. Give Blizzard feedback, "vote" with money.
Give feedback through official channels → quit paying.
My only gripes with this xpac so far are really just:
- GCD change still feels bad after 20+ hours into the xpac
- Scaling/Tuning of world content seems really out of whack (can be fixed)
- Class design in an overall weak state/poor initial class tuning (can be fixed)
Depending on who you are, these can be pretty massive gripes. I am personally enjoying BfA, but I really hope the gameplay issues are addressed ASAP or I can see myself burning out pretty fast.
Exactly this. People enjoyed WoD until about ~2months out when people realized all there was to do was raid. I think BFA should be fine because at the very least they have a M+ dungeon system and WQ system that came over from Legion. If anyone remembers, the dungeons becoming useless in WoD was one of the biggest problems with it. No titanforging, no new dungeons, no valor points, all there was to do was heroic dungeons and they only ever gave iirc 630 ilevel gear - which was completely shit as after the first raid tier most people already had 640-650+ (i dont remember the exact numbers, but thats not my point).
For a casual player who liked PVE, all there was to do for you was Garrison missions and LFR - which dropped shitty looking gear, not even tier.Eventually they got Tanaan, but it was too late.
WoD from a story stand point wasn't bad on the micro level. The individual zone stories were pretty good. The zones and art were good. Lot's of people didn't buy into the overarching story. People who didn't read the books didn't know what happened between SoO and WoD. Also, time travel? Our timeline? Alternate timeline? Which Velen is this? Those were MASSIVE issues with the overall buy-in to the main story arc.
Then there was the Karabor, Shattrath and Bladespire Citadal issue. Huge massive cities that basically went unused because of the Garrison.
I don't see how it's possible for BFA to end up being worse than WoD unless Blizzard does something incredibly destructive. Right now BFA's weak points for me are gameplay / class design and the Azerite system. Both are boring. Everything else is solid. And as it stands now still much better than WoD.
WoD had a lack of content and the garrisons system which took away the point of playing a MMORPG.
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Yeah if you start to compare other expansions to BFA and WoD it starts to look grim for BFA to be in the same conversation with WoD.
To be honest I am not as confident that patch 8.1 will fix a lot of the issues that BFA has. The issues BFA has are very major (class design, GCD, etc).
Reward structure is easier to fix or to make Azerite armor more interesting. But Blizzard has become very complacent right now and that is why the reward structure in BFA is poor and the Azerite armor is almost superfluous.
I haven't really seen much negative feedback. If you are talking about the wow forums, i have some news for you.... That shit has been like that since vanilla. Seems like bullshit to me. Even this forum has become a place to cry about shit.
I see more troll shitposts than I do actual “backlash”. I have had more fun in BfA, my friends too, than any previous expansion thus far. Maybe the way you play the game prevents you from enjoying it
The people who rush always whine a short time later. They get there before the masses, they get there before things unlock, and so on. In vanilla a few hardcore types chose to grind out level. Then they found there was very little end game content as some wasn't in, was buggy, or there was no one to talk about. Thankfully, as is the case most often, the vocal minority isn't necessarily indicative of the whole. The forums, either official or elsewhere, are made up of only a small percent of the community.
In this case, I think you're rushing to judgement. I think OP is just wanting to stir the pot a bit rather than give it a fair shake over the long term. Sure, first thoughts are relevant to you, I'd never say otherwise. But, that doesn't mean your perspective is accurate outside of your own wheelhouse.
wods criticism didn't start hitting till garrisons was maxed out and every was standing in their garrison trolling trade
When mythic+ season one starts, everything might change. The best thing to do right now is to lvl alts because BFA has the best leveling zones wow ever had. MoP was actually fun to level too.
Warlords of Draenor did have a ton of negative feedback, just not right away. They liked the new stuff but became bored of garrisons.
Pretty much, although I disagree on the gameplay front, but it does vary from class to class. I think what most people are missing is a shiny toy, with legion we had DH, we had M+, artifacts... We are using plenty of the legion systems, but we already know them, and we have nothing really new. I think that is why people excitement are a bit dulled, but at the end of BFA I think we will enjoy it while saying it's a little worst than legion.
But hey, that is just my opinion, who knows what might happen.
I don't want solutions. I want to be mad. - PoorlyDrawnlines
I'm not even at the level cap, and I'm finding the game to be a huge drag. The questing and lore feels so weak compared to Legion, although the zones and music are beautiful. I only resubbed (for the first time in 4 years) a few months ago and much more enjoyed the Legion leveling process, artifacts, and storyline.
Will wait until I've been at the cap for a few weeks before I make a final call, but I can't see myself resubbing come October.
FWIW, WoD was relatively well received at first and only after the first month or two did people get tired of nothing but garrisons.
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Exactly. The first 1-2 months was actually quite fun. Only after everyone realized they'd have to run the garrisons non-stop on alts, and that garrisons WERE the end game did resentment sink in. A small number of unmemorable dungeons didn't help either.