Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Felya]

I almost feel that unless Trump gets kicked out by a massive electoral result there's a real concern that it will further fracture US power and stability. After that, send him to jail if/when there's cause.

I don’t think that can work. Remember, being against Trump, is like being against every conservative, every republican, every middle American and blue collar worker. The tribalism rhetoric makes any charge against Trump carry unreasonable baggage.

In short... rigged.

[Paranoid Android]

Donald Trump just called up a Hispanic ICE agent to speak, and prefaced it with "he speaks perfect English."

https://twitter.com/HashtagGriswold/...054168576?s=19

LOL! What a bleeping bigot.

Just some editorial correction.

Customs and Border Patrol, I believe, but yes this happened: https://t.co/B23DMLJAzm

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/statu...766628864?s=19

[Breccia]

Trump yelled at the Federal Reserve for raising rates.

On Monday [Trump] said the Fed should be more accommodating on interest rates.

“I’m not thrilled with his raising of interest rates, no. I’m not thrilled,” Trump said, referring to Powell. Trump nominated Powell last year to replace former Fed Chair Janet Yellen.

U.S. stock prices dipped after Trump’s comments to Reuters and the U.S. dollar .DXY edged down against a basket of currencies.

Trump, who criticized the Fed when he was a candidate, said other countries benefited from their central banks’ moves during tough trade talks, but the United States was not getting support from the Fed.

For the record, Trump can't stop them.

So we're clear: the Federal Reserve is raising rates because money is being pumped into a closed economy. This is called "inflation". It's also why wages aren't going up -- we have a whole thread on that.

Since W tanked the market, the Fed has raised rates once in 2015, once in 2016, and five times since Trump took office. While this causes savings to go up (in theory) it also causes loans to cost more, intentionally slowing lending to keep the economy from "overheating". Trump, the king of debt (including the debts he chose not to pay back, aka "bankrupt"), is likely not a fan of that, despite promoting things that cause the economy to grow (and, therefore, cause rates to go up) and is personally responsible for pumping extra money into a sealed system (the tax cut for the rich). Basically, he's angry at the doctor who tells him he's fat because he shoves overcooked fast food burgers down his Putin-hole three times a day.

[Mormolyce]

https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/1031645012008873984

Oh, an unhinged nutter leaving threatening voicemails for media, calling them the "enemy of the people" and seeming gleeful at the notion of a civil war?

This is normal, I guess.

There are good people on both sides of that death threat.

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https://twitter.com/HashtagGriswold/...054168576?s=19

LOL! What a bleeping bigot.

Just some editorial correction.



https://twitter.com/jaketapper/statu...766628864?s=19

Maybe he was hoping for lessons.

[Mormolyce]

Um...a pardon before a verdict strikes me as a very poor idea. And it might be impossible.

Worked for Nixon...

[Mormolyce]

That's what it comes down really. It worked for Nixon. Everyone knows Nixon was a downright criminal but he never got punished. That's why Trump exists, because for the GOP to save face back then they destroyed justice in the US.

I've been saying for ages that there's a direct line from the pardon of Nixon, through GHWB's pardon of the Iran-Contra assholes, right to Trump.

[SirBeef]

Trump yelled at the Federal Reserve for raising rates.



For the record, Trump can't stop them.

So we're clear: the Federal Reserve is raising rates because money is being pumped into a closed economy. This is called "inflation". It's also why wages aren't going up -- we have a whole thread on that.

Since W tanked the market, the Fed has raised rates once in 2015, once in 2016, and five times since Trump took office. While this causes savings to go up (in theory) it also causes loans to cost more, intentionally slowing lending to keep the economy from "overheating". Trump, the king of debt (including the debts he chose not to pay back, aka "bankrupt"), is likely not a fan of that, despite promoting things that cause the economy to grow (and, therefore, cause rates to go up) and is personally responsible for pumping extra money into a sealed system (the tax cut for the rich). Basically, he's angry at the doctor who tells him he's fat because he shoves overcooked fast food burgers down his Putin-hole three times a day.

Don't forget this orange buffoon was scream at the fed for not raising rates all 8 years Obama was in office. Now that he is in office, he thinks it's a conspiracy against him.

[Breccia]

Microsoft declares war on Fancy Bear.

Yep, apparently Russia -- yes, the official government of Russia, not just some 400 pound Russian -- is going after DC and Microsoft, no longer waiting for Trump to acknowledge it's a problem, decided to personally step in and attack GRU sites.

Free market for the win!

[Poopymonster]

That's what it comes down really. It worked for Nixon. Everyone knows Nixon was a downright criminal but he never got punished. That's why Trump exists, because for the GOP to save face back then they destroyed justice in the US.

Nixon didn't have a group of people in southern NY waiting for said pardon to come down to nail his ass to the wall.

The Americans were prepared this time.

[Kujako]

I got a question... can anyone think of anything that actually got better after Trump got involved with it? Not talking about the Presidency or the Republican party, but before that. Though it is a valid question as to why anyone would expect those two things to do better than his hotels, casinos, steaks, etc.

[Breccia]

can anyone think of anything that actually got better after Trump got involved with it?

"Got involved" is kind of specific. Job numbers and unemployment are continuing on paths almost as good as Obama, so, it's hard to give him any credit there. Especially when the only thing he successfully legislated in that context, the tax cut for the rich, did not increase job growth or wages (which are going down).

But what I want to say, what I'd really like to say, is "Y&ou know, it's actually a good thing he got involved with the opoiid crisis like he said he was going to. I'm so glad someone is finally dealing with a national disgrace that kills thousands." Seriously, it was the one thing he made a big deal about I actually agreed with. And his brother died of addiction! Why isn't he taking this seriously? "I'm appointing Dr. Ben Carson, and actual medical doctor, to form a medical task force. Meanwhile I'm asking Sessions to form a DOJ task force to look at enforcement and how it can actually solve the problem. And I'm going to Congress to demand funding, even if it means I don't get The Wall." BAM. Not even I could spin that as a negative.

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Hey remember when Trump had a big meeting with North Korea and totally made the best deal and won everything?

Nope. There has been no change.

The U.N. nuclear watchdog [IAEA] said it did not find any indication that North Korea had stopped its nuclear activities, adding to doubts about the country’s willingness to abandon its arsenal.

“The continuation and further development of the DPRK’s nuclear program and related statements by the DPRK are a cause for grave concern,” the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) said in a report published late on Monday.

It doesn't help that NK isn't letting the IAEA do its job, either.

“As the agency remains unable to carry out verification activities in the DPRK, its knowledge of the DPRK’s nuclear program is limited and, as further nuclear activities take place in the country, this knowledge is declining,” the IAEA said.

In other words, NK is blocking the IAEA from finding evidence that they're denuking. It's kind of like refusing to release your taxes, but asking people to believe you're an honest, successful businessman.

The thing Trump wanted the Nobel Prize for has evaporated like goddam steam.

[Kujako]

Let us take a moment to remember when, one year ago today, Trump lost a staring contest with the sun.

[some guy]

Who new it be so bright. Big bright. Sun bright.

[Edge-]

https://www.vox.com/2018/8/21/177639...e-clean-energy

The Trump EPA wants to change emission rules in the Clean Power Plan resulting in, by their own admission, the premature deaths of 1,400 Americans per year.

I'll just let that sink in. The EPA is knowingly moving to reduce standards that they admit will kill thousands of Americans all so that power companies can save a few bucks.

Priorities.

[Redwyrm]

https://www.vox.com/2018/8/21/177639...e-clean-energy

The Trump EPA wants to change emission rules in the Clean Power Plan resulting in, by their own admission, the premature deaths of 1,400 Americans per year.

I'll just let that sink in. The EPA is knowingly moving to reduce standards that they admit will kill thousands of Americans all so that power companies can save a few bucks.

Priorities.

And wouldn't you know, that the new head of the EPA was an ex-coal lobbyist. The coincidences are staggering.

[Breccia]

Priorities.

Shh! No time for that! Trump fails at his own dealmaking and punts his own auto tariffs a month or so down the road!

Seems they couldn't come up with a reason that putting higher costs on imported Nissan Sentras was a national security risk, as they were required to do when they used that lame-ass limp-dick IMPOTUS excuse.

Coward. He gets no credit for failing to implement his own bad idea, by the way.

[Glnger]

https://www.vox.com/2018/8/21/177639...e-clean-energy

The Trump EPA wants to change emission rules in the Clean Power Plan resulting in, by their own admission, the premature deaths of 1,400 Americans per year.

I'll just let that sink in. The EPA is knowingly moving to reduce standards that they admit will kill thousands of Americans all so that power companies can save a few bucks.

Priorities.

but they're probably poor and we probably won't have to actually see them die in the streets, and if we do it won't be near me, so w/e.

[Edge-]

Shh! No time for that! Trump fails at his own dealmaking and punts his own auto tariffs a month or so down the road!

Seems they couldn't come up with a reason that putting higher costs on imported Nissan Sentras was a national security risk, as they were required to do when they used that lame-ass limp-dick IMPOTUS excuse.

Coward. He gets no credit for failing to implement his own bad idea, by the way.

Well clearly they're a security risk. If there are more of them on the road, more Americans will get into accidents and potentially die. He needs to stop them from coming in TO PROTECT AMERICAN LIVES!

[Breccia]

TO PROTECT AMERICAN LIVES!

Yeah I know you and @PACOX are being sarcastic, but, Trump is not. And there's been no justifiable reason -- hence, the delay.

[Thepersona]

Yeah I know you and @PACOX are being sarcastic, but, Trump is not. And there's been no justifiable reason -- hence, the delay.

His justification is that somewhere, a german guy went out with the girl he liked, when he was a young adult (and the girl liked that guy because he was kind, decent, etc). From that moment onwards, he hates everything german

/s