Why the Horde playerbase hates the Alliance so much

[Tuhokoura]

I don't know what version of game are you playing,but fine.

1)Attack on the forces of the Alliance in the Icecrown - issued by an orc commander,a cowardly attack on the forces of the Alliance who were fighting the Scourge.The result? Failed attack on the both sides,a nice addition to forces of the Scourge.
2)Invasion of Ashenvale (during the Cataclysm) - using the sole reason,that the orcs need lumber and they are starving in the middle of the desert. Though the main villain there is the Twilight Hammer,thanks to whom a bunch of elves were killed and the negotiaton attempt failed,the Horde used a brute force and invaded the Ashenvale,which,destroying Silverwind Refuge,Astranaar and other elves posts,pushing them back until the Darkshore,killing countless civilians in the process.
3)The use of weapon of mass destruction in Stonetalon Mountains and killing countless innocent druids in process. Despite the fact,that it was based on the orders of general who went too far with Garrosh's commands,he formally was a member of the Horde,so if you want to count in as Blackmoore and Garithos as the members of current Alliance...
4)Slaughter of the Southshore - countless Hillsbrad civilians killed in attack and turned into a goo. But as the Horde will sa - a military target,everything fine,right?
5)Invasion of Gilneas - killing countless innocent civilians in the process,the entire city blighted.
6)Bombing of Theramore - countless civilians slaughtered and captured,later used either as target practice or forced to fight to death. Even if there's an army of people,who say,that it was a fine thing to do,I can imagine the rivers of tears if something similar would happen to an Horde city.
7)And ofcourse,the ultimate burning of Teldrassil,an unprovoked aggresion by the Horde - thousands of innocents slaughtered.

And now you gonna tell me,that the faction you're playing is "good" and it's the Alliance,which hurts the poor,unprotected Horde?

Yes. Like I said, both factions have made seriously bad things, but in the end, like i said, Alliance is the ISIS of Azeroth.

[Felixon]

Yes. Like I said, both factions have made seriously bad things, but in the end, like i said, Alliance is the ISIS of Azeroth.

You will believe in what you want to believe. That doesn't turn the wrong into the right.

[Dastreus]

When I play Alliance, all I ever get is players whining about anything and everything, and others who spam vulgarities all the time. Nobody wants to hear that crap. With Horde, they seem to be more mature and realize it is a game, so get in to the game atmosphere.

I get the opposite, which only improves my impression that the horde are mainly played by angsty teenagers.

[micwini]

I play both sides (more ally than horde). There isn't really a difference between the two.

[CasualFilth]

My PoV thoughts to some above comments:

1) A lot of quests have the NPC's disparaging the Alliance, calling them names etc. This attitude rubs on the player, especially if they do not research the background of said quest's context. Love me some Nathanos shittalking the Alliance whilst Garona makes a fool of him. The Horde quests are generally more aggressively oriented compared to the Alliance ones.

2) The 'Beauty and the Beast' trope, subverted. People still falling for this, and it's an actual good twist, I think WoW can pull this very well. It's such a cliche to think 'ugly race, good; normal looking race, bad'.

3) Stormwind & nobles =/= the Alliance. Yes, in Vanilla, every Alliance player (I'd say mainly humans) was Stormwind's bitch. You had to undone all their crap with the Defias, and stop a potential betrayal at Theramore, making you question some of their choices. The Alliance has had inner conflicts (Moira imprisoning Anduin and trying to take over Ironforge, etc.) but it's a shame they were never brought to the foreground. Even recently, the addition of Dark Irons, a pure 'evil' race, can make some people shut up if they think every Alliance race is a goody-goody two shoes.

4) The Alliance is played by kiddos!!!! NOPE. Playing both factions I have come across the same range of ages. Interesting enough, in my experience, more elder people play Alliance; sadly, I have experienced the 'Twitch Emotes Talking' people mostly on the Horde side.

[sam86]

because in wc3, alliance basically f8ck everything
alliance has garithos, create arthas, and daelin who is the reason of the war until now by his many actions (the cut tree he did alone caused a skirmish that never subdued, just increased and caused even bigger wars)
And 'funny' u remember warcraft as war between factions, while i remember it more accurate as Azeroth vs BL in wc1, 2 and 3, BL used different pawns in each exp (like Medivh in wc1) and Azeroth recruited many factions (elves, orcs etc) in their fight against the ultimate evil the BL

Biggest problem in alliance is hypocrite, they do as evil as horde yet they never ever admit they do a single mistake
As for why in videos u don't find much alliance, that because most alliance players are - if u didn't guess - not the type who go to Blizzcon, either they still kids, or - even if adults - not enthusiasm enough to care about the game, but since kids of course make most merchandise we get for example 1/2 comic series dedicated to alliance (other half wasn't that alliance centered, but still not horde of course) and so on

Blizz 100% has an actual scheme of average age of players from each faction and how they act, Activision is one of biggest gaming companies in world and their history prove they have zero conscious about abusing the market to the last penny possible (in fact activision hold the 'pride' of single handedly destroy the video game industry in their greed, no one even close to them, if not for Nintendo risking millions to revive it) and they know how to exploit us, and no exploit doesn't equal to fun, they know how to profit, and they surely don't care if we enjoy it or not (in fact, if u check their ceo Bobby Kotick quotes, they hate that)

[Paraka]

I find the options for races very lacking in terms of choice within the Alliance, everything feels very Human with "alterations" to stature, even their cultures blend together to a point it's hard to tell. And since Cataclysm, I have noted their experiences has been a malaise of self-righteousness that never was met with some contrast til Void Elves, which apparently has made little impact in BFA.

Overall I just find their side of the story unwavering from being outright boring.

[ls-]

I don't hate them, but I do dislike a big chunk of Ally playerbase. It's fairly easy to notice their holier-than-thou attitude after reading many Ally players' comments on mmoc/reddit/wherever, eventually it gets really tiresome and annoying.

[LiPiNo]

Horde are the "cool" faction, alliance is for annoying little kids and weebs.

Like yourself i suppose ?

[Zuben]

I have a high lvl Alliance alt to see things on their end and I think I could feel pride as an Alliance player if it wasn't for their self-patting hypocrisy. Horde has its darker sides, but there's little denial of it in-universe; their focus is on surviving together rather than parading as paragons of all that's good and holy. Not the Alliance, keeping with the we-are-righteous-shtick no matter what they do or have done. Alleria and Umbric are both good recent examples of how blind one can be in their righteousness, going all judgmental on Sylvanas and goblins like they haven't courted any lines of decency. And my favourite, how they *know* the Sin'dorei will one day be with the Alliance again, never stopping to consider what the Alliance has done to their race, more than once.

In our real world hypocrisy and false virtue are a constant presence everywhere you look, so I feel a special hatred for them. That's why I identify Alliance as the antagonist, as sweet as Anduin is.

[Tabrotar]

When making your first character that tells you alot of what kind of person you are and majority of Alliance players are generic/gay/normie while Horde players are ppl that want something else than social justice crusade alliance ppl choose.Horde players are more passionate,in many cases more mature.Kids choose alliance cuz its basic,therefore horde hates alliance cuz kids have no knowledge of game and they are pretty much stupid and boring like pests.

So Alliance players are gay...

Yeah even without the Tauren avatar this would have been easy in "spotting the Horde player"

[De Lupe]

Do you suggest people spend their time hating things they like? Because that is stupid.

I would actually suggest people stop hating in general, but I know that to be impossible. Hell, even I have things I hate.

• I hate to see CDs left out to be scratched because I like having CDs that work.
• I hate half-assed, cheap stories that have interesting, but wasted concepts because I want fulfilling, engaging stories with fully realized concepts.
• I hate to see grammar and rationality discarded because I like people who are educated and willing to see reason.
• I hate to see news organizations wasted with useless gossip articles or "fluff pieces" because I want unbiased, respectful journalists who report the facts; not mud-slinging, sex appeal, and "ratings".
• I hate to see a corrupt, greedy, impulsive, and moronic CEO in the White House because I like to see countries move forward; not watch them get dragged back to the stone age.
• I hate to see vile, disgusting customers rewarded for being vile and disgusting because I treat employees with the same respect that I expect them to treat me instead of "customer is always right" fodder.
• I hate to see people judged by their appearance (natural and/or cosmetic) because I want people to be judged by the quality of person they are under that appearance.
• I hate to see people who refuse to acknowledge and/or accept their flaws because I have accepted mine and am a better person for knowing my limits.

You know what I don't hate? Bieber, Overwatch, Twitter, Twitch, [insert popular thing people pretend to hate because it's popular here].

None of them are worthy of my hatred because none of them are worthy of my praise.

So, yes. Direct that hate towards things you like. But focus that hate onto the things that cause harm to the things you like.

[Deleted]

Two things :
-The Alliance is boring and generic, both Lorewise and "racewise". A bit more "greyness" would do the whole story good.
-The recurring "HORDE BIAS/HORDE IS EVIL" cries ended up getting on my nerves. Some Alliance players seem to think their faction is the "righteous one", and consider Horde players as mere NPCs.

I used to play both factions at max level, but now I'm mostly a Horde player, because I like the Horde's ideals of Honor and Duty, but also because I hate the Alliance's "american way of seeing the world as rightfully theirs".

So, in my case, I guess you could say that hatred bred hatred...

[Necromantic]

People that "hate" players from the other faction have issues. I'm also sure that it's not exclusive to Horde. I play characters in both factions and I hear it from both sides.

"Horde players are scumbags..." "Alliance players are p*****s..."

If you're at that point, take a break. Go play something else, take a nap or unsub for a little while until you cool off.

[Mad_Murdock]

I play both sides (more ally than horde). There isn't really a difference between the two.

That is pretty much my experience. I started on Ally but after hearing how awesome and "so much more mature" the Horde side was, I rolled a couple of horde toons. If anything I went to the horde side with the expectations that I was going to be hanging out with the cool mature adults. I was greatly mistaken.

From my personal experience I would say Ally side does seem to be the more adult side, but also has more bad\incapable players, where the horde side has better players, but also the more trolly\jackass types.

[Deleted]

Hate a faction over a video game.

You guys need to walk away from the screen lmao.

Exactly this. Never had a problem with opposite faction.

[Marcellus]

Because the Alliance playerbase hate horde worms a lot. Trust me I'm Alliance.

[Deleted]

Whenever I think about how people react to the faction war, I always remember this image from years ago.

This has been my experience as well. I started playing alliance, and then couple of years later a lot of my friends started playing and they all went horde, so i switched.
I really cant understand them... they hate alliance with a passion and im there like "huh?".
We discussed allied races, he went to make Mag'har, i said i would prefer Dark Iron Dwarf, as they are much cooler than recolored orcs, with their glowing beards and what not. And response was "i cant stand alliance, if i see them i would instantly rip their guts out..." quite seriously.
And other friends have similar reactions to alliance... still no idea why. But my first choice were dwarfs and alliance, so guess im not meant to understand that kind of irrational hatred.
After all, i was in my 20s when i started playing(vanilla beta), so guess not childish enough.

Though, if i dislike something... its that horde are now(with BfA) pure evil(whoever tries to argue otherwise is just silly) and pure stupidity(most main characters). As well as now they have my both most irritating and annoying characters. In legion it was Sylvannas and Illidan, and now its Sylvannas and Nathanos, as Illidan is gone.
Yet i play horde and dont really care about either faction. Just wish i could skip some Horde quests, as they are pure shit(genocides and such... and im there like mindless drone carrying out obvious plot by Sylvannas to create war between Alliance and Horde in an attempt to get rid of both, as all casualties are turned to her army, so her army grows while both Horde and Alliance get weaker. So obvious, but as i said, everyone is pure stupidity so they cant figure it out and just mindlessly carry on her work, like obedient drones.)

[Shibito]

The real question is why is alliance players so hung up on fist pump moments?

[Aydinx2]

Yes. Like I said, both factions have made seriously bad things, but in the end, like i said, Alliance is the ISIS of Azeroth.

And you saying it doesn't make it true.