Cop kills man in own apartment after mistaking his apartment for hers

[cubby]

Those facts are concerning almost regardless of what happened. Even if it wasn't a deliberate murder, what if she really was so out of it that *all of that* is true but it was still an accident? Even in that scenario, it's concerning that this person was just on duty. She would have been "protecting" citizens what, an hour before she didn't even know which floor she was on and thought shooting a person was the correct response under these circumstances? Yikes.

Agreed. And good point - her state of mind at the time, if she isn't lying, is troubling on it's own.

[Deleted]

'Systemic racism is a white cop kicking in a black man’s door, murdering him, them trying to smear him once he’s dead by saying you found weed in his apartment days later'

[Celista]

'Systemic racism is a white cop kicking in a black man’s door, murdering him, them trying to smear him once he’s dead by saying you found weed in his apartment days later'

It's pretty shitty, that's for sure. Like finding some weed matters.

[cubby]

'Systemic racism is a white cop kicking in a black man’s door, murdering him, them trying to smear him once he’s dead by saying you found weed in his apartment days later'

People are so frustratingly unfamiliar with what racism means nowadays. I could not agree more.

Did you ever hear that NPR series (I think it was 14 parts) on racism in the United States?

[Celista]

People are so frustratingly unfamiliar with what racism means nowadays. I could not agree more.

Did you ever hear that NPR series (I think it was 14 parts) on racism in the United States?

I think it is also most likely racism but it might have also been a CYA move on the part of the police department, and/or biased (pro-cop or racist) reporting on the part of the news station.

Nothing wrong with supporting cops (I think most are decent) but when you support any group, individual or organization to the point that you're going to take their side no matter what negative behaviors they engage in (and smear any group/individual that threatens to tarnish their image), that is where a dangerous level of bias comes into play.

[cubby]

I think it is also most likely racism but it might have also been a CYA move on the part of the police department, and/or biased (pro-cop or racist) reporting on the part of the news station.

Nothing wrong with supporting cops (I think most are decent) but when you support any group, individual or organization to the point that you're going to take their side no matter what negative behaviors they engage in (and smear any group/individual that threatens to tarnish their image), that is where a dangerous level of bias comes into play.

Agreed. I'm one of those people who predominantly support LEO - to the chagrin of many on this very forum. But this already smells highly suspicious, given the factual contradictions, the lack of an immediate arrest, and now the smear campaign.

[Celista]

Agreed. I'm one of those people who predominantly support LEO - to the chagrin of many on this very forum. But this already smells highly suspicious, given the factual contradictions, the lack of an immediate arrest, and now the smear campaign.

Yup, smear campaign makes them look very bad. Honestly if the victim wasn't so squeaky-clean (I don't count a bit of weed as evidence of anything unsavory) then this whole incident might have been hand-waved by people who would assume the victim somehow deserved it.

[Crissi]

Are you having a brain aneurysm?

Local news tends to be different from national affiliates. So our local Fox news isn't on the same level as national Fox, in that it isn't nearly as conservatively leaned. Their interests are covering local news only, much like WFAA (ABC)

WFAA did similar: https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/wh.../287-593938620

[Masark]

It's not Fox news. It's a local Fox news station.

Same ownership though.

KDFW is owned by Fox Television Stations, which is owned by Fox Broadcasting Company, which is owned by Fox Entertainment Group, which is owned by 21st Century Fox, which also owns Fox News.

[Captain N]

I didn't go through all 18 pages but did the usual suspects show up and blame the guy for non-compliance and then say he deserved to die for being a drug user because they found marijuana after he was dead?

[Crissi]

Same ownership though.

KDFW is owned by Fox Television Stations, which is owned by Fox Broadcasting Company, which is owned by Fox Entertainment Group, which is owned by 21st Century Fox, which also owns Fox News.

But even then, its not nearly as blatant as Fox News would do it. If you click on their link, it clearly shows the distaste. If you compare it to other local news, its fairly similar in documentation (although Fox's outright mentions the MJ in the twitter title).

Figured it would be better to read the links first, and really this is good its getting out. It forces the police department to confront shit and paints them in an even worse light.

[Alex86el]

a) How did she just "enter" the appartment? Was the door left open? Dafuq.
b) Is she mentally retarded? She did enter. Didn't she see that there were different furniture/decorations, before noticing the person?
c) Even if she somehow managed a) and missed b) ...did he attack her? or at least threaten her?

Seems to me like she was too trigger happy in general, if her first instinct was to shoot the man.

Most probably though, she just killed him and made up this excuse. No one is that blind.

[cubby]

Yeah. Non-compliance in your own home when a BURGLAR (the lady cop) comes in and shoots you in the dark.

This to me is one of the more troubling reports from her affidavit, that even if all the other shady shit proves wrong, is still a MAJOR issue. It's like she knows what happened, but doesn't understand any of the relevance. Who cares what her "commands" were - she was in the wrong fucking home. Her words are irrelevant.

[s_bushido]

Did you even read what you said? You literally said "It's not fox news it's fox news"

Are you okay?

"Fox News" isn't the same thing as "news on Fox." Local stations focus mostly on local stories, and if they happen to run something national, it's because it's important (or they have some local spin to put on it).

[Worvon]

Seems to me like she was too trigger happy in general, if her first instinct was to shoot the man.

That's standard operating procedure for US cops, shoot first, ask questions later. It's what you get when you hire from the bottom of the barrel and only require a GED for law enforcement.

[Orange Joe]

snip

You think stuff like that doesn't happen?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/02/b...rs-script.html


Who owns them very much plays into what they report on.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Not surprised, my guess is she won't be convicted, and if she is, she will serve almost no jail time, and by almost none, I mean maybe less than 2 years. She might be on the hook for civil liability but more than likely the city will settle.

[Felya]

I really don't fucking get why this is so hard for you and this other poster. Fox news is pretty universally a right wing leaning news source. Whether it's local news or the national channel.

No, for local news, this role is filled by Sinclair Broadcasting Group, not Fox News or News Corp:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tele..._United_States

Unlike ABC, CBS and NBC, Fox does not air national news programs or newsmagazines on weekdays. On Sundays it airs Fox News Sunday, produced by its sister Fox News Channel. Fox does provide coverage of breaking news of major events such as presidential debates, primarily hosted by Fox News Channel anchor Shepard Smith.

https://www.vox.com/2018/4/6/1720282...ir-tribune-map

If Fox News is national media with a conservative bent, Sinclair may be looking to become the same for local news.

And if this sale goes through, Sinclair will reach nearly three-fourths of TV-watching audiences — and those people watch a lot more local news than cable news:

As we’ve seen with Fox News, much of conservative media’s influence isn’t in the things they say, but rather the things they don’t say. Whether it’s downplaying the president’s alleged affair with a porn actress or a crisis in Puerto Rico, modern conservative media doesn’t just shape our picture of the world with persuasion; it also does it with omission.

News Corp. divides into two companies; 21st Century Fox is born
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jun...y-fox-20130628

Fox News:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_Corporation

Fox local networks:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/21st_Century_Fox

[s_bushido]

You think stuff like that doesn't happen?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/02/b...rs-script.html


Who owns them very much plays into what they report on.

But you'll notice, it's not just Fox. ABC, CBS, NBC, they're all on there.

[Deleted]

Seems to me like she was too trigger happy in general, if her first instinct was to shoot the man.

US self defens law,"encourages" maximum use of force, no need to use force proportionally to the threat.

Most probably though, she just killed him and made up this excuse. No one is that blind.

I myself have walked to my neighbor house and did try to open the door (it was dark and the house is clones and I was very tired) and I wondered why the key did not work, untill I notice the smell was wrong, so I did say sorry wrong house and left. So I can imagen that you can take the wrong door by mistake if you are tired/drunk etc

So yes I can imagen that she select the wrong floor and go to the worng but the right door at that floor, and then a stranger in underpants open and then all the crazy generous US self defens laws kick in.....it would be total legally IF it was here apartment.