So Jaina is going to be a raid boss

[Arrashi]

I really hope that when she reaches 10% she will try to run away only for krag'wa the huge to jump in, eat her whole and digest her alive. Would be fitting end for her.

[bufferunderrun]

Never understood the hatred towards Jaina. Probably the main reason is that Horde players are so used to be "on the badass winning side" and expect every Alliance member to be a lamb for the slaughter. When the Alliance main characters such as Jaina and Genn show,that Alliance actually can retaliate,the majority of Horde playerbase starts to throw shit at them and shout,that the Alliance is evil and they have commited so many crimes.

Do they? Genn and Jaina are just drama queen, their way to retaliate is to shout abusive word the first and pout like a tsundere and change hairstyle the second; now if Genn put up a plan for creating more werewolf and the second do actually something then both will gain some credibility.

[Xofa]

she wont die. she is the new leader of Kul'tiras.
her mother on the other hand might

.. throwing more fuel towards her hate against the Horde LOVE IT!

[Knslyr]

Never understood the hatred towards Jaina. Probably the main reason is that Horde players are so used to be "on the badass winning side" and expect every Alliance member to be a lamb for the slaughter. When the Alliance main characters such as Jaina and Genn show,that Alliance actually can retaliate,the majority of Horde playerbase starts to throw shit at them and shout,that the Alliance is evil and they have commited so many crimes.

Nah. Varian was a worthy foe.

Jaina, and mages in general within in-game lore, are just big deus ex machimas. Being able to pull up any spell from their sleeves for any situation.
Latest example is Jaina flying in on a ship she levitates, while also being able to freeze and plague and controlling several arcane cannons to raze a wall. Quite a lot she is doing at the same time. And she also single handedly manages something that the entire alliance force failed to do.

To make matters even worse, this isn't even planned by the alliance. Or Jaina. She just happens to come right in time, making the whole battle look quite dumb. Especially Anduin and Genn looks like complete fools. They have planned a siege of Lordaeron, come up with strategies and dedicated a massive force to the cause. Which ends up a massive failure, that could be understandable normally. But Jaina swoops in and shows that all Anduin and Genn needed was a few frost novas and a few mages to conjure some arcane cannons.

Also Im not sure why you mention Genn. From the Horde perspective we don't see him accomplishing anything, besides smashing a lantern.
He seems very angry though, but have not proven to be any big threat.

[Deleted]

So Horde attacks an Alliance capitol and burn it down with all the civilians.
Horde attacks towns in Ashenvale and burns them down with all civilians.
Horde attacks a Kul'tiran town and burns it down with all the civilians.

Alliance attacks a Horde capitol and it's a stalemate. Civilians are evacuated and the city is just locked down to Alliance.
Alliance attacks a Zandalari capitol and it's a stalemate because gameplay reasons.

Horde players: Waaaaaaaaaaa!

[PaladinBash]

Big Troll dies, Trollgirl takes over and joins Horde, making them playable.

Jaina dies, MILFmoore takes over and joins Alliance, making them playable.

The shoe fits.

[Doomchicken]

So Horde attacks an Alliance capitol and burn it down with all the civilians.
Horde attacks towns in Ashenvale and burns them down with all civilians.
Horde attacks a Kul'tiran town and burns it down with all the civilians.

Alliance attacks a Horde capitol and it's a stalemate. Civilians are evacuated and the city is just locked down to Alliance.
Alliance attacks a Zandalari capitol and it's a stalemate because gameplay reasons.

Horde players: Waaaaaaaaaaa!

P much this.

[Knslyr]

No wonder, Talanji will pull 1000 ships out of her ass. Can't fight that with just one.

What are you talking about? Talanji just used wind magic to increase the speed of her ship and wind magic to remove the fog giving their navy sight of the alliance warships.

[scrappybristol]

Big Troll dies, Trollgirl takes over and joins Horde, making them playable.

Jaina dies, MILFmoore takes over and joins Alliance, making them playable.

The shoe fits.

Jaina ain't gonna die 3 months into the expansion.

If anything Momma Proudmoore or Canon brother will die.

[Xorzor]

Highly doubt she will die, her and the Alliance will probably just retreat.

Agreed. Zuldazar will "just be a minor setback" LOL.

[Very Tired]

I'm almost certain she will end the fight by saying: "Enough! I tire of this!" Then she'll stun the raid and teleport away.

But really though, I doubt Blizzard would have done all they have to build up her character recently just to have her die in the next patch.

[Knslyr]

So Horde attacks an Alliance capitol and burn it down with all the civilians.
Horde attacks towns in Ashenvale and burns them down with all civilians.
Horde attacks a Kul'tiran town and burns it down with all the civilians.

Alliance attacks a Horde capitol and it's a stalemate. Civilians are evacuated and the city is just locked down to Alliance.
Alliance attacks a Zandalari capitol and it's a stalemate because gameplay reasons.

Horde players: Waaaaaaaaaaa!

Except most people on both sides seems to think this raid is going to be pretty interesting.

And are you still upset about your tree?

[Honik]

they said Horde will attack on the high seas if im not mistaken. She will probably just escape on her ship but I doubt she will die

[Mandible]

Never understood the hatred towards Jaina. Probably the main reason is that Horde players are so used to be "on the badass winning side" and expect every Alliance member to be a lamb for the slaughter. When the Alliance main characters such as Jaina and Genn show,that Alliance actually can retaliate,the majority of Horde playerbase starts to throw shit at them and shout,that the Alliance is evil and they have commited so many crimes.

Look at it this way - how many horde characters have either died, or made villains who was then killed, compared to alliance over the course of wow? I mean as instance or raid bosses (because I honestly don´t recall a whole lot with the horde who didn´t die that way). So your "main reason" doesn´t hold ...

[Felixon]

Nah. Varian was a worthy foe.

Jaina, and mages in general within in-game lore, are just big deus ex machimas. Being able to pull up any spell from their sleeves for any situation.
Latest example is Jaina flying in on a ship she levitates, while also being able to freeze and plague and controlling several arcane cannons to raze a wall. Quite a lot she is doing at the same time. And she also single handedly manages something that the entire alliance force failed to do.

To make matters even worse, this isn't even planned by the alliance. Or Jaina. She just happens to come right in time, making the whole battle look quite dumb. Especially Anduin and Genn looks like complete fools. They have planned a siege of Lordaeron, come up with strategies and dedicated a massive force to the cause. Which ends up a massive failure, that could be understandable normally. But Jaina swoops in and shows that all Anduin and Genn needed was a few frost novas and a few mages to conjure some arcane cannons.

Also Im not sure why you mention Genn. From the Horde perspective we don't see him accomplishing anything, besides smashing a lantern.
He seems very angry though, but have not proven to be any big threat.

Well,I think,that they actually killed him off only because Metzen quit the Blizzard and he,probably,doesn't want to be a voice actor and so,the Alliance now is lead by Anduin,who has 0 military experience and advisors such as Genn,who likes to rush in and start to think what to do next afterwards. Siege was a super failure and I think,that lorewise Alliance had huge losses - and mainly,thanks to those,who didn't equip their troops with blight immune equipment. About Jaina- that moment might seem cheesy,but in the end,she comes out as the hero of the day,saving everyone. If she would come to Anduin to lend her aid before the siege,not sure if everybody would be super happy to see her,considering that she left the Dalaran in the moment,when help was needed - the moment after the Broken Shore,when Anduin needed a support after the loss of his father and when the Legion was winning in all fronts.

[Knslyr]

If she would come to Anduin to lend her aid before the siege,not sure if everybody would be super happy to see her,considering that she left the Dalaran in the moment,when help was needed - the moment after the Broken Shore,when Anduin needed a support after the loss of his father and when the Legion was winning in all fronts.

I just think mages need better writing in general. Perhaps Jaina could have saved them with strategy and military expertise instead. Like Grand Magister Rommath in the Purge of Dalaran. Jaina could have opened a portal to lead an ambush for the alliance instead. Or she could have focused on only containing the plague. But doing everything for the alliance was too much.
This was the problem with Khadgar in WoD as well, your actions in the introduction felt meaningless when you collected X amount of items and then went to progress the story Khadgar just ran straight in one shotting everything and doing everything for the infiltration group.

[Sandraudiga]

Attacking a Horde City means Blizzard hates the Alliance..? Nice Logic!

In no way will the alliance "win" and destroy/occupy the city though.

Don't really care for this idea for a raid in general. Unless each encounter has the exact same mechanics in the same sized room then it won't be balanced between alliance and horde. Also don't think including alliance or horde lore characters as bosses is a good thing.

[Cucultlan]

I really hope that when she reaches 10% she will try to run away only for krag'wa the huge to jump in, eat her whole and digest her alive. Would be fitting end for her.

i really like your idea. And i gladly take the siege to Darzaralor if the sea witch dies like this.

[Lithostrotos]

She tried to advocate peace between the Alliance and the Horde until Garrosh led an unprovoked attack on Theramore which also killed Rhonin. Basically getting the shaft from everyone ever since then, yet SHE is the one who has had it coming?
Pfft. Stupid Horde fanboys.

You call people stupid, but you neglect the fact that the attack wasn't at all unprovoked. They used Theramore as a military position to invade the Barrens, the Horde's own backyard. That isn't by any means unprovoked, so who's the stupid one here? On top of this, the civillians were given time to evacuate. I am not saying Garrosh was doing good deeds by any means, but before you call someone stupid the next time, learn the story and details surrounding it. Stupid Alliance fanboys.

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So Horde attacks an Alliance capitol and burn it down with all the civilians.
Horde attacks towns in Ashenvale and burns them down with all civilians.
Horde attacks a Kul'tiran town and burns it down with all the civilians.

Alliance attacks a Horde capitol and it's a stalemate. Civilians are evacuated and the city is just locked down to Alliance.
Alliance attacks a Zandalari capitol and it's a stalemate because gameplay reasons.

Horde players: Waaaaaaaaaaa!

Horde player here. My reaction to the announcement was thinking about Dazar'Alor as a zone and then going "Whelp, that's probably going to work really well."

That said both Dazar'Alor and Boralus would make for great Raid Zones.