Measles outbreak raging in Europe could be brought to U.S., doctors warn

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Excellent! Antivaxing bites back! I totally enjoy these cases of poetic justice when morons get to quickly suffer the consequences of their stupidity.

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Going to bed but I will leave this picture on my way.

Not entirely accurate. It disappeared mostly because the factors that contributed to its spreading were no longer existing.

The plague is carried by rats. The rats get bitten by fleas, which then become carriers as well. The fleas then bite humans, which are the...intended target.

Considering that personal hygiene became prevalent, as well as much lower contact with rats and fleas, AND the development of a treatment for the plague, it stands to no surprise that the Plague virus saw extreme difficulties in reproduction and spreading, up until the point where it's almost extinct. Almost.

[dayne87]

It sickens me when I hear a "friend" of ours (a friend of my wife, really) talk about anti-vax shit or post crap on FB about it. I just want to facepalm and ask her how stupid is she (but don't, because I don't want to damage the real-life friendship).

As some have pointed out, it's often the religious devout or "nuts" (not all religious people are nutty, but many are) who are also anti-vax. There also seems to be a correlation between religious folks and home-schooling. I don't know why those 3 go together so well (religion, anti-vax and home-school) but they do. Anyway, I think these people perhaps are more inclined to believe something without evidence (such as anti-vax conspiracy theories) than other people.

I understand herd immunity and understand that just because a vaccine has something that is LIKE something that is harmful or that is harmful in LARGE quantities it does not mean it is going to kill your child or cause autism or whatever.

[JohnBrown1917]

The same with religion. We rarely have this kind of fundamental evangelistic christians.
Compared to the US even your ordinary christians would be called fundamentel.
Germans aren't very religious. Churches are empty unless it's X-mas and it has become more off a kind of folklore.
That's probably why people over here don't see the dangers of more invasive religions but that's another chapter.

Our religious nuts, while low in numbers, are very concentrated[Over 50% of Urk voted for the far right reformed party]. Its indeed the Catholics that are mostly moderate and skip church, but that does not apply to the reformed group. Them being concentrated is exactly what is destroying herd immunity.

[AeneasBK]

Considering that personal hygiene became prevalent, as well as much lower contact with rats and fleas, AND the development of a treatment for the plague, it stands to no surprise that the Plague virus saw extreme difficulties in reproduction and spreading, up until the point where it's almost extinct. Almost.

Its not a subject I covered in any great detail but I thought the underlying cause of the plague dying out is that literally so many people had died that no one was living in as cramped or unhygeinic conditions for it to prosper. I wasn't aware they found a cure for it back in the middle ages.

[Trumpcat]

There should be a law, that if you contract a disease which could've been prevented by getting vaccinated, you are the only one who's going to pay for the entirety of the medication needed to cure it, no health care refundations or anything like that. The anti-vaccers dumbfucks need to pay for their stupidity and for putting others at risk as well.

Other people shouldn't pay for anti-vaccer stupidity.

Never happening in social(ist) Europe where stupid is being financially supported from taxes that can exceed 40% in countries such as Germany.

[JohnBrown1917]

Never happening in social(ist) Europe where stupid is being financially supported from taxes that can exceed 40% in countries such as Germany.

No country in Europe is socialist, why is this so hard for you guys?

[caervek]

Measles outbreak raging in Europe could be brought to U.S., doctors warn

Quite karmic when you think about it, the USA exports the anti-vaxxer movement to Europe, gets measles in return xD

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Quite karmic when you think about it, the USA exports the anti-vaxxer movement to Europe, gets measles in return xD

Or poetic justice

[Yriel]

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/1...nts-infectious
https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/34/12/1627/349950
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6207a1.htm

From the first study:

Germany has — so far at least — escaped the worst-case scenario: most of the tropical and exotic diseases brought into the country by migrants have been contained; there have no mass outbreaks among the general population. More common diseases, however, many of which are directly or indirectly linked to mass migration, are on the rise, according to the report.

The incidence of Hepatitis B, for example, has increased by 300% during the last three years, according to the RKI. The number of reported cases in Germany was 3,006 in 2016, up from 755 cases in 2014. Most of the cases are said to involve unvaccinated migrants from Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria. The incidence of measles in Germany jumped by more than 450% between 2014 and 2015, while the number of cases of chicken pox, meningitis, mumps, rubella and whooping cough were also up. Migrants also accounted for at least 40% of the new cases of HIV/AIDS identified in Germany since 2015, according to a separate RKI report.

There's an answer.

[anveena]

One of the wonderful benefits of taking in all of those economic immigrants

[JohnBrown1917]

One of the wonderful benefits of taking in all of those economic immigrants

Do some research before you post.

[XDurionX]

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/1...nts-infectious
https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/34/12/1627/349950
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6207a1.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatestone_Institute

[Knolan]

ITT: lefties ignoring anti vax on migrant communities, righties ignoring anti vax on christian communities and the problem continuing because both are too naive to assume their side can be wrong too. Also, the irony of people accusing anti vax of ignoring studies, while ignoring sources posted here themselves.

On the topic, it is important to note that some people can't be vaccinated and vaccines do not work 100% of the time.

People deliberately not vaccinating are exposing others to risk, not only themselves:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity

tl;dr is that if you are not immunized, but everybody around you are, you won't get sick because the virus can't spread to anyone near you.