What was 1.12 de facto strategy for AV?

[garicasha]

Reinforcements didn’t come until later, right? So was the strat to turtle until you summoned your elemental lord? Or did people still rush Gavangar / Belinda and then charge through?

Man...summoning the elemental lords in AV is gonna be one of the things I’ll really enjoy doing again. (But BRD is my favorite!)

[Armourboy]

If I remember right by then it was drop two towers and kill Drek.

[scriM]

If I remember right by then it was drop two towers and kill Drek.

I remember something similar, towers was always a hot topic while waiting inside the camp.

[jackofwind]

If I remember right by then it was drop two towers and kill Drek.

Yep.

No one farmed wolves or rams, no one farmed bloods to summon the bosses, sometimes you didn't even stop to kill Bal/Galv. Two towers then Van/Drek.

[OldSchoolWow916]

just zerg it

[Denso]

Soloing/2-manning Galvangar was quite common iirc, did it myself quite a few times. Usually Horde didn't care. Alliance won 98% of AVs I'm sure in my battlegroup. Still think we did all 4 towers though it was just a pure base-trade that we usually won.

[ReD-EyeD]

I remember joining AV at saturday and playing the exact same AV on sundays evenening. Not even sure if it was over by monday.

[Armourboy]

Soloing/2-manning Galvangar was quite common iirc, did it myself quite a few times. Usually Horde didn't care. Alliance won 98% of AVs I'm sure in my battlegroup. Still think we did all 4 towers though it was just a pure base-trade that we usually won.

Yeah it's fuzzy but I'm pretty sure most of the time everyone went to the end on both sides, small group would grab galv and first two towers, but most of the time those towers were still up when Drek dropped.

[zhero]

Reinforcements didn’t come until later, right? So was the strat to turtle until you summoned your elemental lord? Or did people still rush Gavangar / Belinda and then charge through?

Man...summoning the elemental lords in AV is gonna be one of the things I’ll really enjoy doing again. (But BRD is my favorite!)

summoning the elemental lord was non existent in 1.12

[Wilian]

I remember joining AV at saturday and playing the exact same AV on sundays evenening. Not even sure if it was over by monday.

That's not 1.12 AV tho'. AV by then had undergone many nerfs, most of the guard NPCs had been removed, remaining ones had been made significantly weaker and it had p. much turned to the tower-rush game but without tickets.

[Vulcanasm]

Yep.

No one farmed wolves or rams, no one farmed bloods to summon the bosses, sometimes you didn't even stop to kill Bal/Galv. Two towers then Van/Drek.

Exactly this. AV became a zerg in Patch 1.10. Most NPCs were despawned. RIP Korrak the Bloodrager, Zinfizzlex's Portable Shredder Unit, and the days of Icelord vs. Treezus.

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I remember joining AV at saturday and playing the exact same AV on sundays evenening. Not even sure if it was over by monday.

That was the previous version of AV, which existed from Patch 1.5.0 (June 2005) to 1.10.0 (March 2006).

In those days it was quite routine to queue for AV, play for some hours, leave, requeue hours later, and end up in the same AV. That happened to me at least half a dozen times.

In my first AV, I joined after a 30-minute queue, found a match in progress, played for a few hours, left for work, came home, requeued, ... and got the same AV. Played for several hours, went to bed, woke up (elapsed time >24 h), requeued ... same AV. Went to work again, came home again, requeued again (elapsed time ~36 h), requeued ... same AV.

[Rotted]

I started TBC launch and hit AV around 2-3 months in I'd say.

There was reinforcements around but you couldn't charge drek at all. I parked my butt at 60 for around 6 months just doing AV. Every single game (without tooting my horn to much) was a win when it was lead by me and my 4 regulars. But we had to split our forces between Galv and IBT while assaulting IBGY. While the 5 of us held back most of the horde. Keeping in mind we were decked out in marshal gear and the horde was usually in quest gear.

After that we'd slowly push forward taking TP. By the time TP went down, it was a win from the count

[Tom Anderson]

As alliance, by defending SP GY
and as horde by defending SF GY at all costs.
Damning the haters.

[ManiaCCC]

As alliance, by defending SP GY
and as horde by defending SF GY at all costs.
Damning the haters.

To be fair, horde GYs were almost impossible to defend against semi-competent players...

[ONCHEhap]

Mad rush, drop 2 tower. Not bad if you dropped 4. Don't bother with Galvangar/Balindre

Really, going with 1.12 AV may be the biggest betrayal of Classic in all this.

agreed,it's my favourite part of Classic,and I'm pretty sure it's very loved overall

And I really want Alterac valley,not a gimped shadow of AV like the 1.12 one

[Easo]

A bit offtopic but the impossible happened - we summoned Ivus last Sunday (first time I have seen him), because it had turned into slog match near Tower Point and some DH decided to turn things around a bit. We got everything, upgrades for troops, gryphon riders, all the stuff and mfking Ivus going off to stomp some poor fools. They finally took took him down after ~15+ minutes of rampage.
I have to say this was the best distraction carnifex (sorry, W40k memes) I have ever seen in battlegrounds. Horde was visibly going WTF.

I will probably play classic just to do AV from time to time.
P.S.
This AV lasted around 1 hour.

[ONCHEhap]

A bit offtopic but the impossible happened - we summoned Ivus last Sunday (first time I have seen him), because it had turned into slog match near Tower Point and some DH decided to turn things around a bit. We got everything, upgrades for troops, gryphon riders, all the stuff and mfking Ivus going off to stomp some poor fools. They finally took took him down after ~15+ minutes of rampage.
I have to say this was the best distraction carnifex (sorry, W40k memes) I have ever seen in battlegrounds. Horde was visibly going WTF.

I will probably play classic just to do AV from time to time.
P.S.
This AV lasted around 1 hour.

We started the summon for ice lord a week ago,was great
Blizzard didn't change much in AV in BfA,but separating the queue really changed the meta for the best.I manage to get my group to collect armor scraps and blood (horde equivalent of the storm crystals) almost every game,and people are actually really enjoying it for the most part,excluding the toxic asshole you get every now and then who is confident he has the perfect tactics

Raid wide buffs and the promise of maybe seeing the most awesome thing that can happen in a BG really gets most people going and happy and cooperative
I haven't really tried getting people to farm for the cavalry,infantry and air strikes yet as I'm doubtful it'd work,but it's the best AV felt since 1.10 imo

[Xecks]

if they dont do 1.5 av ill be dissapointed.

[ONCHEhap]

if they dont do 1.5 av ill be dissapointed.

I'll take anything that's less than 1.10 AV tbh

[Byne]

Man, until this thread I had forgotten 1.12 had the terrible version of AV in it.

I dont give a fuck about classic at all, and getting to do old school AV was the only thing I was looking forward to. I used to do it all the time and havent really PvPed at all since the changes in 1.10.