Generation Z is doomed. We're all doomed.

[Zelk]

We should stop teaching people education stuff at universities and pivot towards forcing them to debate fascists, which has been the point of universities since the founding of The University of Bologna in 1088

[Daedius]

I find this offensive. I'll make sure to corral others into pressuring your superiors to ensure you lose your job and ruin your livelihood over this post, OP!!

[Notshauna]

You didn't watch the video. Watch it. I'm not going to parrot what the professor stated.

I mean I've literally heard everything he's saying before this isn't new, it is the exact same argument as people were making in the 1980s. Though there is one inconsistency I noted in his argument that I think is worth pointing out, he claims that Generation Z is coddled but when it comes to explaining the effects of social media and why he believes it has lead to a increase in suicides with young women, he points out that in his own words "girls can never get away if they're being bullied".

The irony is that his belief is that young people today don't know how to deal with conflict, but he fails to realize that social media is rife with conflict. Social media is often outright hostile and it follows you everywhere and parents by in large have no idea how to help their kids with it. The problem isn't that Generation Z is "soft" it's that social media is dangerous without curation as the past few years have shown. Tumblr lead to people being exposed to child porn, reddit has communities that work themselves up into committing mass murders, twitter is a perpetual shit fit, youtube's algorithm was leading people for somewhat right wing individuals to actual nazis, 4chan is a lawless shit hole at best and the sum of all other social media at worst.

[Torto]

Been saying this for years. This whole mentality of all children being winners and there cannot be losers has left us with a generation of young adults who for the most part lack proper coping mechanisms when facing any type of adversity. Worse, many of them lack debating skills and have no concept of keeping an open mind. You only have to look at gen ot to see examples of that.

Gen Z are doomed to become npcs.

[Deleted]

you guys ever see those coddled millenials who illegally smuggled themselves via turkey into syria to join a war and behead people then stuck bombs to themselves. Fucking snowflakes.


Problem with prof.whiteboys.exe is that thier view of generational groups always consists of upper middle class hugo's and poppys who are rattled thier trust fund isnt as big as rafferty and islas down the road.

[NihilSustinet]

Parents and educators are unwittingly harming today's students by trying so hard to protect them. This is from perceived physical dangers as well as from ideas that might prove uncomfortable. The net is that "helicopter" parenting and increasingly ideologically uniform college campuses aren't allowing kids to develop natural resilience (identical in concept to children being susceptible to diseases if not properly immunized). Kids are not receiving the proper stress-testing to the issues they will undoubtedly encounter in the real world. This coupled with far leftist ideologies is setting up an entire generation for failure.









It's shocking how accurate this is. Why are parents so incredibly over protective of their children? How could they be so ignorant?

Every generation has believed that the next generation is the doom of mankind. People thought chess was a mindless waste of time when it was invented. Mozart's music was trashy. It's a well known societal trend. Itll be fine.

[Oneirophobia]

You didn't watch the video. Watch it. I'm not going to parrot what the professor stated.

This is MMOC, commenters have zero intention on clicking anything linked in the original post. You also used the word "leftist" so you stuck cotton balls in the ears of anyone remotely left leaning. You'll probably also devolve the thread into Trump discussion using those sorts of words.


I do agree that the future generations are going to have it rough. Anti-vaxxers are on the rise, the war on information continues, and climate change is continuing to worsen.

[Muajin76]

Dam lefties! *angrily shakes fist in the air*

I are a leftie..

[Deleted]

Boomers blaming their children and their grand children for the problems they caused...

What a surprise...


/sarcasm.

[eschatological]

I'm a progressive (granted, an old one, who became a progressive decades ago) and watched this when it aired live.

I generally agree with this guy's argument that society and culture as a whole are more shallow than ever before. When he talks about the shallowness of the culture, he's not talking about consumerism, but the literal lack of depth in conversation, dialogue, argument, and even media. This isn't a guy saying video games are bad, or TV is bad, or rock and roll is bad. He's saying the shallowness of it all, and massive hold it has on young people, is bad.

For example, as a progressive, I understand the history of this country as essentially fearmongered into a more-conservative-than-normal society. From McCarthy to the Cold War to Reagan's "welfare queens" to Bush's use of "the l word" to equate the word "liberal" to a curse word, to Newt Gingrinch's New America, there's been a solid progression of constant shit being flung to make the American subconscious unduly conservative. That's why progressives put up 3 straight very liberal candidates in the 80s, and lost handily; Jimmy Carter only won his first term in 76 due to residual disgust from the absolute, sheer corruption of the Nixon Administration. To survive, the Democratic Party (supposedly the liberal party) moved to the moderate middle with the Clintons in '92, only for them to be re-branded by their opposition as new liberals to be demonized, and push the political spectrum even further right.

I remember that in the late 90s, gay teenagers were still tied to fences and stoned to death, and black teens dragged behind trucks, not in remote places like Saudi Arabia, but in places like Texas, and that the sudden strides we made in racial and gay equality (IE having a black President, having gay marriage) were in fact, not sudden, but the work of decades of activists who literally bled for the cause.

But young people today, of both political bents, have such a shallow view of things that this argument is often lost on them - their understanding is shallow and they think they achieved all of these advancements in 2008 by chanting "Yes, We Can" or the right wing equivalent. Edit: Most of society will always have a relatively lackluster depth of knowledge of social and political issues - the problem is that this generation's activists are also shallow, relying on 228 characters and insults to make their point. And those who do have depth of knowledge on the issue (CF the Parkland shooting survivors who have become gun control activists) only get traction when they make pithy one liners to Laura Ingraham or ask one line questions to Marco Rubio.

That's pretty much all this guy is saying. That everything is more shallow now, and more reactive, while simultaneously being far wider reaching, more pervasive, and more "indispensable."

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Been saying this for years. This whole mentality of all children being winners and there cannot be losers has left us with a generation of young adults who for the most part lack proper coping mechanisms when facing any type of adversity. Worse, many of them lack debating skills and have no concept of keeping an open mind. You only have to look at gen ot to see examples of that.

Gen Z are doomed to become npcs.

I wonder what kids you normally interact with who think there can’t be losers? If any thing kids seem more competitive now then when I was young as they have access to so much more with what the internet now is that rather it be gaming or social media they strive to not be losers.

[ArguesWithStrangers]

There are legitimate grievances to be had with parenting strategies that have been in vogue at any particular time. That being said, you're not doomed, because most of the time, you'll do what you must to survive in the world, no matter how great or awful your parents were.

[Dhrizzle]

Which generation propagated global warming, tanked the worlds economy, stood by while wages stagnated and simultaneously looked aside while both Russia and neo-nazis made a resurgence?

I'll give you a hint; it's not generation z. Not the millenials. Think a little older.

They are the reason the world is the way it is, full stop. They can't blame children unable to vote or young adults with little economic power.


Maybe the values that raised the generation responsible for this recent downturn in the state of the world could do with a little introspection and actually aren't that great.

Yeah, but Generation X seem to always get a pass. Millenials and Boomers always seem happy to blame each other.

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Been saying this for years. This whole mentality of all children being winners and there cannot be losers has left us with a generation of young adults who for the most part lack proper coping mechanisms when facing any type of adversity. Worse, many of them lack debating skills and have no concept of keeping an open mind. You only have to look at gen ot to see examples of that.

Gen Z are doomed to become npcs.

As someone who exemplifies the "NPC" issue and mostly communicates by regurgitating memes instead of constructing your own thoughts, what do you think could have been done to better prepare you for the real world? Do you think over-exposure to places like -Chans and Reddit may have stunted your development?

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Boomers blaming their children and their grand children for the problems they caused...

What a surprise...


/sarcasm.

The guy in the video is closer to Gen X than a Boomer.

[Powerogue]

It really wasn't any better before. People were still heavily sheltered, just by the fact that it was harder to contact people outside of a specific circle of people physically near you. Now all those barriers are down but people put up new ones.

[Goldielocks]

I mean, I don’t know for sure about what left ideology is inherently damaging but this thin-skin epidemic definitely is an issue. You don’t need to be on the right to understand the growing pussification of the world.

[Daws001]

Every generation complains about a younger generation and how they're blah blah and blah. The world will be ruined! Except it keeps spinning. We'll be dead in the ground and generations will still be bitching about generations.

So boring and repetitive.

[Aucald]

The funny thing is that everyone blames "Generation Z" for ushering in said doom, but who raised "Generation Z" and taught them all they would need to know to do that? Fault almost always lies in the same place - with those who rush to lay blame. Like every generation that came before them they'll learn how to make the future, or there won't be a future to worry about. By the time that happens the previous generation will be either be dead or irrelevant, though; so nothing to worry overly about.

[Oakshana]

Except it's much different this time around. There wasn't social media "in the olden days".

Social Media... followed by hypersensitivity, unnecessary need for safe spaces, triggering, outrage culture, yada yada yada.

Also... teenagers and early 20-somethings self diagnosing mental problems /rollseyes

[Deianeira]

You didn't assume shit, mate. lmao... As if that should even take precedence over the fact. "The stuff he's spewing", wow... The sheer ignorance of you to even suggest such a notion. There is in fact a correlation between social media addiction and having depression/anxiety. There's been studies... But hey, the study was done because they're obviously going to be "selling a book", right?

Well if there is studies about this that had been peer reviewed then by all means present them and we can discuss. But seems to me that this guy is presenting his opinion just as many have done about this issue previously.

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Which generation propagated global warming, tanked the worlds economy, stood by while wages stagnated and simultaneously looked aside while both Russia and neo-nazis made a resurgence?

I'll give you a hint; it's not generation z. Not the millenials. Think a little older.

They are the reason the world is the way it is, full stop. They can't blame children unable to vote or young adults with little economic power.


Maybe the values that raised the generation responsible for this recent downturn in the state of the world could do with a little introspection and actually aren't that great.

Exactly this.

[Veggie50]

The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

Socrates

I think we’ll live...