WoW for the first time in recent years is not in the TOP 10 most profitable PC games

[Doomchicken]

The whole November thing makes fallout 76 make some sense at least. That game is utter utter fucking trash. I would be scratching my head something fierce if that was a 2018 total deal.

[Zandalariprelate]

Yeah lol, afaik both are massive flops after people realized they're obvious cash grabs. BF5 went on sale like 2 weeks after release for black friday, that's not a sign of "best selling" game that makes tons of money. Also Bethesda was sued for refusing to refund Fallout 76 to angry customers that felt scammed with low quality that is screaming 10x louder "open beta" than Beta for Azeroth. There was a video compilation of worst bugs in Fallout 76 that was taken down by youtube due to "copyright claims", I wonder why, gotta conceal how rushed was the product, eh?

Also how come no COD for pc only for console? You'd expect that to be much more milkable title in Activision library than wow.

Well I think call of duty is more played in console, but still I agree in everything with you, damm GoW did solid sales, wonder why isn't ranked here

[Sansnom]

Sims 4 is an incredible anomaly to me. My daughter plays it. I refuse to pay a cent for it, but I "manage" to get all the content for her anyways.

The last time I added up how much the base game, plus all the content updates were, it was something in the neighborhood of $400? $600? -- dollars. For a stupid game! If the game were just $59.99, with no ridiculous cash grabs, I would have bought it without flinching.

Right. So you do you do not agree with the price so you decide to steal. And you think that is okay? How much have you spend on your PC? How much have you spend on WoW?

It's really incredible the business strategy gaming companies have. If 20 years ago, someone said that we'll release a game, and charge $500 for it, I'd say they were crazy -- but that's exactly what EA, and other gaming companies are doing.

If anyone thinks Bobby Kotick isn't pushing Blizzard to do the same, you probably have the intelligence of someone that would pay that kind of money for a video game.

They are not charging 500 for a single game though. You may see it that that way.

[Casperite]

Source: https://www.superdataresearch.com/us...-games-market/

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And I dont play a single one of those top 10 games. I do play WoW because I enjoy it, I dont need third party validation to enjoy something like some people here apparently need.

[trapmaster]

Sims 4? Dungeon Fighter Online?

Who are these plebs?

I was playing dungeon fighter online, it's well known whales game who spend hundreds thousand dollars on dress up avatars, reinforcement to ur weapon highest u desire, ( after hitting 12+ on ur weapon, it has chance to break ur weapon and cannot get it back unless u pay protection that prevent break ur weapon and reset ur reinforcement back to zero.) Very expensive and stupid, I know a guy who spent 35k dollars getting to 15+ on every savior triumph'd weapons he have then next thing he gamble going all of them to 16+ and all of those weapons broke. He just help neople getting his money. Oh yeah, how to make money in that game? Spend money to make money.... lmao

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1. What the fuck is Dungeon Fighter Online.
2. Who the fuck in their right mind spends money on fucking Sims.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=QmnqaIeW3D4 imperial arena, But u get the idea... pay to win.... XD

[Oneirophobia]

i'm kinda wanting to just rip the bandaid off and see it end finally.

corporatism has won, so the game won't ever be as good as it once was. there's no point in it existing anymore.

Turns out, the Legion won. What we're experiencing right now is the indescribable pain Velen told us about - our souls are being burned away as fuel, and we're not even able to conceive it.

[Rogalicus]

This is specifically for November, where nothing was going on in WoW. Show me the annual gross. Besides, the company has a couple games in this Top 10 list so what's to worry about? Call of Duty and Candy Crush are both up there raking in the cash.

You mean after three months of new expansion nothing happens, but there was more happening in the tail end of Legion? WoW was consistently in Top 10 through all 2018.

And I dont play a single one of those top 10 games. I do play WoW because I enjoy it, I dont need third party validation to enjoy something like some people here apparently need.

Less money = less incentives to put resources into project = less content. Considering recent trend, Blizzard will probably start shifting WoW developers to other projects.

[PenguinChan]

Is this really any surprise as the WoW player base declines, and most of the Top 10 in any field are those with massive amounts of microtransactions?

[Heeresman]

Lol @ Battlefield V being in there.

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Whats there to discuss?
It is what it is....

[xeroburn]

World of Warcraft is dead, Blizzard Entertainment is dead.. they just haven't closed the studio doors yet.

This will be the last expansion and classic will fail because of shady underhanded practices that will ruin the game.

Stocks plummeted, customer loyalty at an all time low and investors jumping ship due to poor yearly earning.

Activation is AIDS, not HIV but full blown AIDS.

I was a loyal customer who bought nearly every game Blizzard has put out minus all the garbage since 2008 but i am forever not a customer, Blizzard has nothing I will ever spend money on again.

I know many people who are in the same camp as I am on this topic including YouTube content creators.

Bye Felicia.

[Nyel]

There are so many indicators WoW isn't on life support at the moment despite a poorly received expansion and people are still trying to somehow claim that WoW is in a dire situation right now. *smh*

Many indicators? Please tell me which are there that clearly show Blizzard's commitment to the recent state of WoW.

[TheVaryag]

Source: https://www.superdataresearch.com/us...-games-market/

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There's not much to discuss, WoW might not be top ten In this thing.

But It hasn't been top dog MMORPG among MMORPGs In years and years, since Warlords arguably. When WoW has seen It's most drastic and consistent downfall ever since WoD, MMOs like Elder Scrolls Online, Lord of the Rings Online, Final Fantasy 14, Guild Wars 2, Star Trek Online - all have proven to be more content rich, fair and more Interesting to progress through than WoW. Because those MMOs do good at what they do and don't go wild with Ideas or mechanics that don't suit the game. The one game I'm Interested In personally, despite graphicly old is Lord of the Rings online, It has that feel of Old WoW where mobs are hard and you gotta watch what you pull, how much you pull and doing things together with people matter, as well as proffesions and things - such basic things that Wow thought It was above and tried to "Innovate" with Artifact shite, mythic + shite, LFR shite, mythic raid difficulty shite, proffesions being useless since 10+ years, Azerite Armor shite...nothing wow has done In recent years is Interesting content.

And while those other MMOs might not release content as fast or large as WoW used to they still have a healthy population of loyal players, some larger than WoW possibly. Final Fantasy 14 reportedly had 2 mil subscribers since It's latest expansion this year in 2018. Since WoW's subs are reportedly leaked to be 1.7m, definitely less than 2 mil by my own personal estimations It's not top dog MMO at all.

And that's sad and GOOD. Because It might kick them In the chin and tell Blizzard to start actually listening to their players, take feedback and repair their game before It's too late. When you're top dog, you gotta watch out more than ever for your competitors.

[GillxSports]

And while those other MMOs might not release content as fast or large as WoW used to they still have a healthy population of loyal players, some larger than WoW possibly. Final Fantasy 14 reportedly had 2 mil subscribers since It's latest expansion this year in 2018. Since WoW's subs are reportedly leaked to be 1.7m, definitely less than 2 mil by my own personal estimations It's not top dog MMO at all.

And that's sad and GOOD. Because It might kick them In the chin and tell Blizzard to start actually listening to their players, take feedback and repair their game before It's too late. When you're top dog, you gotta watch out more than ever for your competitors.

By your personal estimation?????

But your own sig says you haven't played since 2015.

Also, there's more than 1.7m subs in Asian countries alone. People often underestimate the number of PEOPLE that live outside the western hemisphere because they're so culturally uneducated. More than half of WoW's subs has always been from those countries.

[shadowmatrix]

And I'm pretty sure they're the most expensive micro transactions on the market too, at least from the MMO's I've played and seen their shops.

FF 14 has a bigger store selection by far with similar prices.

[Rogalicus]

Final Fantasy 14 reportedly had 2 mil subscribers since It's latest expansion this year in 2018.

That's not true, closest estimations based on player activity and revenues come down to something like 600k. Still healthy amount, though.

[kichigaijin]

Fallout 76 is #5 on the console list, simply because nobody can get a refund on it.

[Deleted]

Gonna buy me another Wilson loot box. BrB.

[Garybear]

WOW takes up too much time and I cant schedule off 3 hour blocks to raid 2 times a week. I would get interrupted at least 10 times to 30 times. You can't raid ike that. Also, just completing one normal or heroic 5 man would be tough and it would not be fun. Doing a meanness speed run through a dungeon for meaningless loot is not fun. Playing a 1 minute iPhone games is fun. And, there is no 15 to 30 minute wait to play...(dungeon finder or raid finder)

Couldn't agree more.

[Savagedragn]

This list just continues to reinforce that I’m not in any major gaming companies target audience anymore.

[Ealyssa]

Sims 4? Dungeon Fighter Online?

Who are these plebs?

Money grabbing DLC filled garbages.

Last time I heard about the sims the total cost with every single dlc reached 500$ and that was 1 or 2 years ago. They certainly released more DLCs.