Would merging with A.I. lead to a collective consciousness?

[Unholyground]

Horsecrap. Science is about recognizing the limits of understanding, certainly. But it is not about espousing nonsensical ideas based off of wild conjecture. Science evolves iteratively through observation and experimentation. The kind of "open mindedness" to unobserved bullshit that you are describing is called religion..

Not 100% true, many theories were just ideas people had about the natural world then found the tools necessary to test them. This has happened throughout history. Feel free to think rigidly forever, I think religion is ridiculous too but they state that they are real and factual with no evidence, I am just throwing out ideas that could be tested some day with the right technology.

[Tico]

Merely merging with AI will not solve anything. The issue is much more the moral level.

[Unholyground]

No, you are throwing out nonsense based on absolutely nothing. Scientific ideas, by definition, are first based in observation of the natural world. Idle speculation is not the same as science.

Whatever man, close yourself off to possibilities fine but the quantum universe is stranger than fiction.

[Unholyground]

Scientists deal in fact, not fiction. Grant money isn't given to any asshole who smokes a blunt and says "gee, what if?" Even quantum physics, which you seem to be completely unfamiliar with, is based in sound reasoning, mathematical models, and observation. It's not just weird for the sake of weird, which is precisely what that "brains are an antenna for magical consciousness" crap is.

Actually there are many non explainable things in the quantum that still baffle scientists, saying there is not is disingenuous at best. You sound like a very cynical person and must be fun to be around lol.

[Flarelaine]

If we merge with artificial (general) intelligence, will that ultimately lead to a greater connected consciousness?

The internet set the stage for the undeniably globalized world we live in and has affected everything from pop culture to politics. People are becoming more politically literate earlier and interested in politics, whether local or global. Even the people against this globalization are themselves perpetuating it by allying and merging their ideologies with others globally.

With an even greater, interpersonal worldwide connection, I could only imagine whatever effects the internet has had only magnified.

I would refer you to Chilhood's End. Connectedness and especially merging question how much of the self will remain.

[Shadowferal]

Short answer; no.

[Ealyssa]

With current tools no, but as we all know things can get infinitely smaller and could be far from our current detection methods. You must remain open to new ideas and possibilities if you have a scientific mind.

That's not science. It is its polar opposite : faith.

You believing in your own fairy tales doesn't make it scientific. No matter how strong you wish for.

[The Stormbringer]

I predict if Humanity ever does reach an A.I level galactic wide consciousness, we as a species would have already converted ourselves into sentient machines capable of surviving the emptiness of space and the void in between galaxies.

Otherwise as true A.Is that have reached a form of singularity within our planet, they would immediately realize that this gravitationally effected planet is not suitable for them. They need a place between galaxies, perfectly suited for electromagnetic sentients like themselves that need Bose Einstein condensates to fully function in a post-singularity environment.

Which is why I believe the reason why we dont see millions of civilizations among the stars, is that the natural evolution of sentients in this universe drives them to move towards better real estate in the universe which is between galaxies. A perfect environment for civilizations to survive for billions of years in their super-cooled electromagnetic haven.

Of course, this isn't taking into account dark matter, which we still know oh so very little about. A civilization at that point would almost certainly know a great deal about it, or at least one would think they should.

On a different side of things, some believe that advanced civilizations would instead move to the super-massive black hole at the center of their galaxy, utilizing the immense gravity and constant stream of particles as fuel sources. They would also be havens for the many trillions of years into the future where the only things that will exist are black holes.

[Unholyground]

Of course there are currently non-explainable things. But we don't then attempt to explain them with nonsense ideas based on nothing more than speculation. The get explained in the exact methodology that I described above, through observation, experimentation, disciplined methodology, and statistical modeling. I'm fairly certain you're baiting at this point, because no one can be this ignorant about the scientific process.

All that I was trying to say is that tools are our limitations to do testing, I have read a lot about brain science and consciousness and they still do not know where it stems from. There is some type of physical mechanism for it but it is not in the organic tissues of the brain.

[Dudenoso]

If we merge with artificial (general) intelligence, will that ultimately lead to a greater connected consciousness?

The internet set the stage for the undeniably globalized world we live in and has affected everything from pop culture to politics. People are becoming more politically literate earlier and interested in politics, whether local or global. Even the people against this globalization are themselves perpetuating it by allying and merging their ideologies with others globally.

With an even greater, interpersonal worldwide connection, I could only imagine whatever effects the internet has had only magnified.

The implementation details of AGI does not exist currently, nor are we sure they can exist.
The implementation details of uploading a copy of our minds to a computer does not exist either, nor are we sure they can exist.

How the hell do you expect any discussion on merging those two to be anything but random shots in the dark?

[Unholyground]

That's not science. It is its polar opposite : faith.

You believing in your own fairy tales doesn't make it scientific. No matter how strong you wish for.

I don't wish for it, it was an idea lmao. People really need to get out more.

[Dudenoso]

All that I was trying to say is that tools are our limitations to do testing, I have read a lot about brain science and consciousness and they still do not know where it stems from. There is some type of physical mechanism for it but it is not in the organic tissues of the brain.

Lobotomy is a thing. Therefore the physical mechanism for conscience is on the organic tissues of the brain.

[Unholyground]

Lobotomy is a thing. Therefore the physical mechanism for conscience is on the organic tissues of the brain.

They are still conscious though, personality and consciousness are not the same thing.

[DonVito]

It would lead to our demise. AI is anti-G-d and is an abomination. I shudder when I think of our future with these assassins on the loose.

[Dudenoso]

They are still conscious though, personality and consciousness are not the same thing.

Why do you think people's conscience is elsewhere?

[crewskater]

It's already happening since almost everyone has a cell phone now days. You're basically an extension of the internet with it. Have a question? Google will tell you the answer within a few seconds.

[Shadowferal]

It's already happening since almost everyone has a cell phone now days. You're basically an extension of the internet with it. Have a question? Google will tell you the answer within a few seconds.

And yet, Research Confirms It: We Really Are Getting Dumber

Are Smartphones Making Us Stupid? The mere presence of your smartphone can reduce cognitive capacity, study finds.

[Unholyground]

Why do you think people's conscience is elsewhere?

Not necessarily elsewhere but possibly everywhere?

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And yet, Research Confirms It: We Really Are Getting Dumber

Are Smartphones Making Us Stupid? The mere presence of your smartphone can reduce cognitive capacity, study finds.

100% depends what you do on it too.

[Unholyground]

"I read some bullshit on the internetz and now I think I'm an expert." Kiddo, I'm an actual cognitive neuroscientist and I can tell you that what you just said is objectively wrong. There is absolute consensus among the neurological community that consciousness is a physical phenomenon entirely housed within the tissue of the brain. Stop baiting and go play WoW or something, you have nothing rational to add to this conversation.

Do you have a website with your personal research? Or anything I can read? Gimme some learnin' and shut your beautiful mouth.

[Halyon]

On a collective basis, it would solve all problems tbh, but for the individual it would be an anything but literal death sentence.

I value the self.