Mitch McConnell, The Gravedigger of American Democrac

[Felya]

Keeping telling yourself that. These constant comparisons to Nazi Germany are fucking insane and highly indicative off just how mentally depraved the left has become.

You call random people on the internet depraved. That’s sort of a catch 22...

[Twdft]

What's with the left's obsession with comparing the current state of affairs with Nazi Germany? Are your lives that bad right now that you have to blame all of your shortcomings in life on the "orange man"

Dude, I'm a German. I look at your country and can't help but think I've seen this shit before. In history class.

[Daelak]

Well, credit where it's due. That's a solidly put together argument. I don't agree with it, per se; I would much rather fix the current system than start over. But that's at least well articulated.

But it isn't starting over. It's using the existing constitutional framework for reform. Constitutional amendment to abolish the senate, and an even closer iteration of what the constitution was envisioning (1 representative per 30,000 is the ideal). No need to start over.

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Keeping telling yourself that. These constant comparisons to Nazi Germany are fucking insane and highly indicative off just how mentally depraved the left has become.

Oh is this another "Nazi Germany appeared out of thin air, with their concentration camps and incinerators" post? The rhetoric used before the Reichstag fire was identical to the rhetoric employed by conservative pundits, politicians, the president. The only difference is the scapegoat, more or less. They both still blame unions, homosexuals, Jews, and the infirm/impoverished. Today's conservatives just added hispanic immigrants/refugees.

[DocSavageFan]

Oh is this another "Nazi Germany appeared out of thin air, with their concentration camps and incinerators" post? The rhetoric used before the Reichstag fire was identical to the rhetoric employed by conservative pundits, politicians, the president. The only difference is the scapegoat, more or less. They both still blame unions, homosexuals, Jews, and the infirm/impoverished. Today's conservatives just added hispanic immigrants/refugees.

Dude...if you actually believe this kind of horseshit, you're about as crazy as they come imo.

[Daelak]

Dude...if you actually believe this kind of horseshit, you're about as crazy as they come imo.

You don't have to believe me, just look at the evolution of German conservatism's platform of "Detain, Deport, Extermination". Due to the nature of conservative politics always pushing into more authoritarian policies to instill fear into their base of support, as well as subordinate party loyalists/officers, detainment and mass deportations became "too costly" and too slow of an effort to purify the citizenry of the German homeland, so mass displacement and extermination became the policy.

[DocSavageFan]

You don't have to believe me, just look at the evolution of German conservatism's platform of "Detain, Deport, Extermination". Due to the nature of conservative politics always pushing into more authoritarian policies to instill fear into their base of support, as well as subordinate party loyalists/officers, detainment and mass deportations became "too costly" and too slow of an effort to purify the citizenry of the German homeland, so mass displacement and extermination became the policy.

When do you expect these exterminations to begin?

[Adam Jensen]

When do you expect these exterminations to begin?

Hopefully never.

But the point is, the Nazis didn't start at mass exterminations. They started at fearmongering and hatemongering and exploiting vulnerable German people.

[Daelak]

When do you expect these exterminations to begin?

I don't expect them to, but when holocaust historians start waving red flags, it doesn't take a historical scholar to see the parallels. Considering the current human rights abuses that are occuring directly due to Sessions DOJ memorandums approved by the Trump Administration, it is very easy to see how these type of government detainment policies will fly off the rails. Add to the fact that you have high profile conservative pundits and politicians advocating mass deportations already, it's again no surprise holocaust historians are ringing alarm bells.

[JohnBrown1917]

Yes we are.

In our system only democrats and republicans have any chance at success. If a Nazi or communist were to run, our system is against them.

The system is against all third parties, not just Nazis or communists.

In Europe with their parliamentary system, this isn't the case. Nazis and communists can win part of the government.

So fascists can just join with the already established far right party in the US, oh how hard..


They have already done just that, by the way.

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Hopefully never.

But the point is, the Nazis didn't start at mass exterminations. They started at fearmongering and hatemongering and exploiting vulnerable German people.

The US already has concentration camps, and the nazis got a lot of their ideas from the US in the first place.

[Xeones]

Yes we are.

In our system only democrats and republicans have any chance at success. If a Nazi or communist were to run, our system is against them.

The system is against all third parties, not just Nazis or communists.

In Europe with their parliamentary system, this isn't the case. Nazis and communists can win part of the government.

Does this guy who is completely detached from reality not realize Trump won?

[Adam Jensen]

The US already has concentration camps, and the nazis got a lot of their ideas from the US in the first place.

A lot of people don't realize that the Nazis weren't that unpopular in the US before WWII. You should visit the Holocaust museum in Washington D.C. some day. Anti-semitism was common and most Americans were ambivalent about Hitler in the 1930s.

[Draco-Onis]

Yes we are.

In our system only democrats and republicans have any chance at success. If a Nazi or communist were to run, our system is against them.

The system is against all third parties, not just Nazis or communists.

In Europe with their parliamentary system, this isn't the case. Nazis and communists can win part of the government.

There's no system in the world immune to authoritarianism all you need is a figure popular and smart enough to work the system. Germany's democratic system wasn't weak it just took the right circumstances had the great depression not happened Hitler would have faded from the pages of history.

[DocSavageFan]

Hopefully never.

But the point is, the Nazis didn't start at mass exterminations. They started at fearmongering and hatemongering and exploiting vulnerable German people.

Most of the fear and hate I see are coming from the left. They're enemies of free speech (as frequently demonstrated on our college campuses) and actually believe themselves to be superior to other human beings who don't happen to share their perspective. This is how Nazi Germany began...denying free speech and demonizing others as being evil. The irony here is that you've become exactly what you say you despise and don't have the ability to recognize such depravity. It's called projection...a relatively common and unfortunate flaw within the human condition.

[JohnBrown1917]

Does this guy who is completely detached from reality not realize Trump won?

He voted for him, he should know.

[Adam Jensen]

Most of the fear and hate I see are coming from the left. They're enemies of free speech (as frequently demonstrated on our college campuses) .

College campuses are not subject to the First Amendment, try again.

.denying free speech and demonizing others as being evil.

When we "deny" a platform for people who are ranting about minorities and "white genocide," pretty sure we're not the ones being "evil." We didn't march in a circle chanting "Jews will not replace us!"

And again, denying someone a platform for their hate speech isn't a free speech violation. You are not guaranteed the right to be listened to.

It's called projection...a relatively common and unfortunate flaw within the human condition.

You would know, the right are masters of projection after all.

[Daelak]

Most of the fear and hate I see are coming from the left. They're enemies of free speech (as frequently demonstrated on our college campuses) and actually believe themselves to be superior to other human beings who don't happen to share their perspective. This is how Nazi Germany began...denying free speech and demonizing others as being evil. The irony here is that you've become exactly what you say you despise and don't have the ability to recognize such depravity. It's called projection...a relatively common and unfortunate flaw within the human condition.

Nazi Germany began through detainment and the literal labeling of their scapegoats with colored pins attached to all their clothing. They then put them into ghettos. When conditions in the ghettos started to deteriorate (by design), conservative politicians called for mass deportations to bring back "law and order" to them. Once they realized the logistical challenges and the duration, conservative politicians (Hitler et al.) advocated for mass extermination. The rest is history.

[Edge-]

Most of the fear and hate I see are coming from the left.

Do we need to talk about the, "SOUTHERN INVASION FORCE STORMING OUR BORDERS" again? You know, that "invasion force" of a few thousand exhausted, hungry, thirsty, sick, sunburnt, scared migrants that came to present themselves at legal points of entry with asylum claims?

[Felya]

Dude...if you actually believe this kind of horseshit, you're about as crazy as they come imo.

Yey, another thread turns into a @DocSavageFan insults random posters thread. Didn’t see this coming... again...

It’s funny really. There you are complaining about liberals and free speech, which I assume is exclusive to social media. While defending Trump, who regularly attacks the press, as not being like a Nazi. Social media or people telling Nazis they are assholes, is not what lead Nazis. You want me to show Trump quoting Mussolini or is that not right?

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Do we need to talk about the, "SOUTHERN INVASION FORCE STORMING OUR BORDERS" again? You know, that "invasion force" of a few thousand exhausted, hungry, thirsty, sick, sunburnt, scared migrants that came to present themselves at legal points of entry with asylum claims?

This is probably one of the most blatant lies you've said recently.

Even that Muslim ban that was supposed to be for a limited time, to figure out what is going on? What was that we figured out? Totally not fear mongering and nothing else.

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In all seriousness:

https://www.nytimes.com/politics/fir...-to-mussolini/

Donald J. Trump on Sunday morning used his Twitter feed to post a quote attributed to Benito Mussolini, the founder of the fascist movement, from a parody account. The tweet compared the Italian dictator to Mr. Trump, the Republican front-runner for the presidential nomination.

Since even Trump cannot tell the difference between his point of view and a parody account calling him a fascists. Can we... random internet posters... have the same issue with seeing the difference?

[Ivanstone]

Whilst I agree that Mitch McConnell is a complete piece of shit, he's not the comparable American political figure. That award goes to Newt Gingrich who set the GOP on the path to hyper-partisanship. McConnell is largely only in it for the personal power trip and every action he takes is about him wielding power.

[Hella clutch]

Most of the fear and hate I see are coming from the left. They're enemies of free speech (as frequently demonstrated on our college campuses) and actually believe themselves to be superior to other human beings who don't happen to share their perspective. This is how Nazi Germany began...denying free speech and demonizing others as being evil. The irony here is that you've become exactly what you say you despise and don't have the ability to recognize such depravity. It's called projection...a relatively common and unfortunate flaw within the human condition.

Just like how Marco Rubio (and chuck Shuemer to be fair) wanted to pass a bill to make it a federal offense to exercise your free speech? Or how this whole wall thing is cooked up by racists saying there’s a crisis when really there isnt one? You’d come off as less absurd if you bothered to look at things rationally. But it seems you’re the kind of poster that’s only good for shitting on your supposed enemies and not much else.