Imagine if Blizzard actually had plot-twists like these planned
This world don't give us nothing. It be our lot to suffer... and our duty to fight back.
It's pretty obvious N'zoth is referring to Deathwing here. He is/was the Aspect of the Earth, and Deathwing himself referenced the "deep places" many times during Cata.
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A lot of people forget the bolded part. The Old Gods are chaos incarnate, as the Void represents ultimate chaos (putting it in opposition to the Light, which represents ultimate order). Even in the earlier days of Warcraft's then-budding cosmology, the Old Gods (like the Great Old Ones that inspired them) are prone to rampant infighting, as the concepts of order and stability are anathema to their very existence. Hence why their agents strive so often to sow discord wherever they go, and why some agents of the Void like Xal'atah are willing to work with Azeroth's champions in the short-term.
edit: Not to entirely dismiss the notion that N'Zoth could have corrupted Illidan during his ten thousand years of imprisonment. N'Zoth has been doing nothing but running long cons since his imprisonment, and he would have a vested interest in putting an end both to the Burning Crusade (you can't corrupt what's already destroyed) and Xe'ra as one of the Light's preeminent figures (and one of, if not the greatest naaru).
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Thanks, I think it would make the story interesting. Even more so, we could see Illidan as a void demon being confronted by Tyranda and Mal'furion. Lots of character development could happen...
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They do war against each other, but they have also worked together when trying to stop the titans or in the retcon the titan forge. In the Wrath of the Lich King book, it starts with Arthas having a dream where he sees minions of three old gods not just one. Perhaps the Void Lords are also invested in Illidan.
He gave himself to the deep places
Magni tried communing with the earth and became stone. What if his "voice" isn't Azeroth.
He saw the future of Sargeras and his sword...last I checked titans didn't have foresight.
"The king of diamonds shall be made a pawn" COME ON!!
He didn't seem too worried about an old god minion in the chamber of the heart. He is basically the reason why we are collecting azerite. He is obviously being manipulated more than the quote the OP used.
That could also be Anduin as the King of Diamonds. The king of diamonds is a tarot card for a loyal young blond man. More importantly, Magni was pretty happy at the start of Cata, he just found out his brother Muradin is actually alive. Even if he ends up king the king of diamonds, that wisper is likely unrelated to this one.
Nice misleading title.
Well if there is one thing that could end Azeroth killing Old Gods host it was Sargeras, so is it so very surprising they were augmenting Illidan's spell to keep Sargeras away?
And in Seat of Pantheon Legion is finally defeated, so N'zoth can just mind his own businnes not being afraid of Big Guy who can just cleave planets, ofc it's a win for Void.
There were other whispers: "The burning ones kept balance. Lost now... lost." and "Your pride is what led to all of this."
Does Illidan is on N'zoth's side? Nope, don't think so, did they helped him when that was profitable for them? Yup.
And I'm sure you know, because title of this topic is just changed whisper from new raid but:
"The Master waits for you to join him...",
"He is awake now. And he has noticed you.",
"Receive my gift and see all truths before you.",
"At last... embrace the truth of shadow."
etc. etc. They were using us too, and in 8.1 we get gift of N'Zoth, whatever that is.
I wouldn't read too much into Illidan's lore pre novel/Legion given how far they bent over backwards to overcorrect BC just having him be insane and evil.
To be fair, he was the one few ones that realized that if they just kept prolonging, eventually and inevitably they would fail. He ended up making a gambit seeing as how:
A) knew where the Legion home planet was. This is a huge breakthrough.
B) Defeated and permanently killed one of their major commanders, so any time prolonged would allow Sargeras to recruit another in KJ's place.
C) Did not have any current means of travelling through space to Argus while the Legion now knows exactly where Azeroth is to do endless attacks in the future.
Never let your enemies recuperate, especially a infinitely-regenerating enemy. He realized though that while the risk was high, it was also their biggest chance at success.
"Why of course the people don't want war…. But, after all… it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
N'Zoth didn't say anything like this. The title is misleading and the whole idea of this is stupid considered that Illidan story is over.
It's Arthas since in his sleep as the lk(his novel epilogue) he saw a vision of N'zoth
I could believe it. We all know Illidan was hyper focused and would draw power from whatever source he could if it meant achieving his goals. He stopped one threat, but may have ushered in another.
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Tyranda sensed entities "Stronger than Sargeras", augmenting his spell. In the lore pre Burning Crusade, it took multiple titans to take down 1 Old God, that was ret-conned. Granted, this could now mean the void lords.
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This is a good point. I wouldn't be surprised if the Old Gods had something to do with Arthas. Could be a good way to bring him back into the story.
I could see Illidan getting conned into it and him thinking he was doing his own thing. After all, the best prisons are the one's you don't know you're in.
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