No Diablo 4

[NoiseTank13]

Nah. Doesn't matter what the term is based on or what other games does or even what your view on it is.

With real money you get better stuff in the game. Fact.

Now stop trying so hard to defend your game.

Well I guess World of Warcraft is P2W then lol

[czarek]

You can order gear, consumables, crafting mats and everything else online and have it traded to you ingame.

Its p2w unless you play SSF which doesnt let you trade. But that also makes it not playable with friends. Who wants that?

Eem ok but game isnt made as p2win game. Its community feature. Developers doesnt make any income from that. You can play by ur self to win without buying any item from someone for real money. Your argument is invalid. There is no sense to buy them for cash no fun tbh. You can say this about almost all games that have tradable items between players in game. In WoW you can buy acc, mythic+ or pvp taxi for money so... its also p2win ?

[Delekii]

Nah. Doesn't matter what the term is based on or what other games does or even what your view on it is.

With real money you get better stuff in the game. Fact.

Now stop trying so hard to defend your game.

If you actually believe this, literally every game with multiplayer coop and any kind of gear progression is p2w, including WoW. Pay real money, get carried through raid, get better gear. Repeat ad nauseum till fully geared. P2W, right?

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People only play POE cause it's free and D3 has been left to rot. It's a mediocre game.

Opinions are like arseholes. Everyone has one, but yours stinks worse than most.

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[Broken Fox]

If you actually believe this, literally every game with multiplayer coop and any kind of gear progression is p2w, including WoW. Pay real money, get carried through raid, get better gear. Repeat ad nauseum till fully geared. P2W, right?

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Opinions are like arseholes. Everyone has one, but yours stinks worse than most.

You're defending Path of Exile so your opinion means doesn't mean jackshit

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[Delekii]

You're defending Path of Exile so your opinion means doesn't mean jackshit to me.

FTFY.

We could go around in circles for days, let's just agree that your opinion is stupid and move on, ok? Ok. Cheers.

[Reclaimer]

FTFY.

We could go around in circles for days, let's just agree that your opinion is stupid and move on, ok? Ok. Cheers.

Its his opinion, Hes entitled to it.

If you actually believe this, literally every game with multiplayer coop and any kind of gear progression is p2w, including WoW. Pay real money, get carried through raid, get better gear. Repeat ad nauseum till fully geared. P2W, right?

See, now you are starting to understand, There is NO online MMO or game that should be considered " Legit " That's why I put no stock in boasting about gear, professions and other worthless shit. All online games have hacks, bots, packet editing, injects and services you can buy. Fuck I have a friend that quit his job after being a school for 2 years to learn how to do it, Now he makes a living selling injected items on phone games. Most online players are cheaters and your a fool if you think people are not going to use outside resource to stay ahead and look better.

[Delekii]

Its his opinion, Hes entitled to it.



See, now you are starting to understand, There is NO online MMO or game that should be considered " Legit " That's why I put no stock in boasting about gear, professions and other worthless shit. All online games have hacks, bots, packet editing, injects and services you can buy. Fuck I have a friend that quit his job after being a school for 2 years to learn how to do it, Now he makes a living selling injected items on phone games. Most online players are cheaters and your a fool if you think people are not going to use outside resource to stay ahead and look better.*

*evidence pending

"Most" players are either not bad enough to need it or don't care enough to want it. You're out of your fucking mind if you think more than 50% of any given population of players in an online game go to third parties and buy their way to victory through means not available legitimately through the game.

[Noxina]

Nah. Doesn't matter what the term is based on or what other games does or even what your view on it is.

With real money you get better stuff in the game. Fact.

Now stop trying so hard to defend your game.

So literaly any game is P2W? Because you can pay some dude to finish Mario for you, you could pay to get someone to carry you through any content in WoW.


PoE isn't anymore P2W than any other game with ingame trading is. Of course there will be people benefiting from online trading, and of course people will sell services for real money. That's how it is, and have always been. Doesn't make a game P2W though.

What would have made PoE (or any other game) P2W was if they added items to the store that directly boosted your character, or items that put your character ahead of others with some crazy donation weapon (for instance).
Being able to buy some wings and a cool portal doesn't exactly put you ahead of others.

[Appelgren]

So literaly any game is P2W? Because you can pay some dude to finish Mario for you, you could pay to get someone to carry you through any content in WoW.


PoE isn't anymore P2W than any other game with ingame trading is. Of course there will be people benefiting from online trading, and of course people will sell services for real money. That's how it is, and have always been. Doesn't make a game P2W though.

What would have made PoE (or any other game) P2W was if they added items to the store that directly boosted your character, or items that put your character ahead of others with some crazy donation weapon (for instance).
Being able to buy some wings and a cool portal doesn't exactly put you ahead of others.

You need to be anoither level thick in the head if you think ordering specific bis-items and having them hand delivered to you is the same thing as being carried where you have to earn/loot the gear with RNG yourself or even buying an accaount that already has the items.

In PoE you CAN get EVERYTHING you want with money within MINUTES. You cant do that in d3 or wow. Please.. stop being dumb!

How are people this delusional? You people must be trolling me... Im done

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[Noxina]

You need to be anoither level thick in the head if you think ordering specific bis-items and having them hand delivered to you is the same thing as being carried where you have to earn/loot the gear with RNG yourself or even buying an accaount that already has the items.

In PoE you CAN get EVERYTHING you want with money within MINUTES. You cant do that in d3 or wow. Please.. stop being dumb!

How are people this delusional? You people must be trolling me... Im done

You're talking about us being delusional, when you're the one trying to say that PoE is P2W? CHEATING doesn't make anything P2W, and buying items on 3rd party sites is literally breaking the rules and, if detected, will get you banned.

If a game is P2W (like different WoW Pservers are), you pay up, get an item or service that will put you ahead of others - thus Pay to WIN.



So please, stop being so fucking dumb.

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[Coldkil]

Ok, stop with the offtopic discussion.