Rogues are the only class that makes sense as "the Hero"

[Lodravel]

The Hero=player figure, the one who is going out in the world and doing all the quests.

Think about it, whenever you're sent into and enemy stronghold to kill X, subterfuge is the only possible way the player character could survive. Most areas are so heavily fortified, it would be illogical for any one person to get in there, slaughter everything and get out.

A warrior approaches the ogre den, the ogres ring the alarm, he'd get swarmed and smashed to bits. No armor is gonna safe you from fifteen angry ogres, lorewise. No matter your fighting skills or your prowess in the arcane arts. Most missions the questgivers send us on are suicide missions and we wouldn't survive them outside of some freaky incidents... unless we were some kind of infiltration specialist.
Get in, kill and collect discreetly, and get out with everyone none the wiser.

There are a few exceptions and of course, Dungeons and Raids. Questing, though... if you're not some sort of stealth assassin, you might as well be toast.

[Kwento]

The Hero=player figure, the one who is going out in the world and doing all the quests.

Think about it, whenever you're sent into and enemy stronghold to kill X, subterfuge is the only possible way the player character could survive. Most areas are so heavily fortified, it would be illogical for any one person to get in there, slaughter everything and get out.

A warrior approaches the ogre den, the ogres ring the alarm, he'd get swarmed and smashed to bits. No armor is gonna safe you from fifteen angry ogres, lorewise. No matter your fighting skills or your prowess in the arcane arts. Most missions the questgivers send us on are suicide missions and we wouldn't survive them outside of some freaky incidents... unless we were some kind of infiltration specialist.
Get in, kill and collect discreetly, and get out with everyone none the wiser.

There are a few exceptions and of course, Dungeons and Raids. Questing, though... if you're not some sort of stealth assassin, you might as well be toast.

This is a fantasy setting. Setting where Varian is the greatest warrior ever, whilst being a human (physically underwhelming race). Setting where mages destroy cities and warlocks corrupt worlds. And make no mistake, at this point PCs are on those levels of power.

[Lodravel]

This is a fantasy setting. Setting where Varian is the greatest warrior ever, whilst being a human (physically underwhelming race). Setting where mages destroy cities and warlocks corrupt worlds. And make no mistake, at this point PCs are on those levels of power.

Even an adult will be overwhelmed when you fight against twenty bloody ferrets. And maybe you'll got some nasty power, but unless you're packing the absolute defense there's always strength in numbers that can't be overcome with sheer power. It's as silly as these movie kung fu fight scenes where the protagonist fights off the entire band of thugs with his martial art skills. Even Luke Cage struggles sometimes.

[Kwento]

Even an adult will be overwhelmed when you fight against twenty bloody ferrets. And maybe you'll got some nasty power, but unless you got the absolute defense there's always strength in numbers that can't be overcome with sheer power. It's as silly as these movie kung fu fight scenes where the protagonist fights off the entire band of thugs with his martial art skills. Even Luke Cage struggles sometimes.

Luke Cage cannot step on the ground and cause an explosion of thunder and lightning. Ferrets don’t stand a chance.

[Nynax]

The Hero=player figure, the one who is going out in the world and doing all the quests.

Think about it, whenever you're sent into and enemy stronghold to kill X, subterfuge is the only possible way the player character could survive. Most areas are so heavily fortified, it would be illogical for any one person to get in there, slaughter everything and get out.

A warrior approaches the ogre den, the ogres ring the alarm, he'd get swarmed and smashed to bits. No armor is gonna safe you from fifteen angry ogres, lorewise. No matter your fighting skills or your prowess in the arcane arts. Most missions the questgivers send us on are suicide missions and we wouldn't survive them outside of some freaky incidents... unless we were some kind of infiltration specialist.
Get in, kill and collect discreetly, and get out with everyone none the wiser.

There are a few exceptions and of course, Dungeons and Raids. Questing, though... if you're not some sort of stealth assassin, you might as well be toast.

Hell, that is literally the quest text premise for a good portion of quests in this game. "We can't assault _____ stronghold yet, but a small team could get in and cause chaos...we'll send you!"

....player proceeds to annihilate every living existence within sight.

[Lodravel]

Luke Cage cannot step on the ground and cause an explosion of thunder and lightning. Ferrets don’t stand a chance.

Yeah, but that's a normal man confrontin mustelids, the man with the lightning is fighting jacked meatheads that shoot balls of fire.

Hell, that is literally the quest text premise for a good portion of quests in this game. "We can't assault _____ stronghold yet, but a small team could get in and cause chaos...we'll send you!"

....player proceeds to annihilate every living existence within sight.

Precisely and I'm saying most classes wouldn't be able to pull that off.

[MatadorMedia]

If you're talking about a stealth assassination, Druids and Hunters and Mages can also turn invisible, reach the target and escape unscathed.

[Nynax]

after 10 years playing this game....if you really consider what are asked of players, we've been playing World of Herocraft.

And remember, hero's are "just doing their job." Heaven forbid a hero takes any credit!

[Kwento]

Yeah, but that's a normal man confrontin mustelids, the man with the lightning is fighting jacked meatheads that shoot balls of fire.

True, and that’s exactly why thunderclap is just a low level ability.

[Lodravel]

If you're talking about a stealth assassination, Druids and Hunters and Mages can also turn invisible, reach the target and escape unscathed.

Fair enough. Let's exclude the lazer chicken though, because that's just not stealthy at all.

[Shadowsgrace]

The Hero=player figure, the one who is going out in the world and doing all the quests.

Think about it, whenever you're sent into and enemy stronghold to kill X, subterfuge is the only possible way the player character could survive. Most areas are so heavily fortified, it would be illogical for any one person to get in there, slaughter everything and get out.

A warrior approaches the ogre den, the ogres ring the alarm, he'd get swarmed and smashed to bits. No armor is gonna safe you from fifteen angry ogres, lorewise. No matter your fighting skills or your prowess in the arcane arts. Most missions the questgivers send us on are suicide missions and we wouldn't survive them outside of some freaky incidents... unless we were some kind of infiltration specialist.
Get in, kill and collect discreetly, and get out with everyone none the wiser.

There are a few exceptions and of course, Dungeons and Raids. Questing, though... if you're not some sort of stealth assassin, you might as well be toast.

Real world logic has no Point in a fantasy game. If you ever come to something that makes no sense, just remember these words and everything will be ok. "A wizard did it."

[Huntermyth]

in the previous expansion, Rexxar was my wingman. what the hell are you talking about ?

[Beerbill Society]

Disagree, because you are mixing a realistic concept with the fantasy setting of WoW.

Realistically, rogues wouldn't be able to be 'invisible' and invade every possible fortress.

Quests in WoW are ruled by gameplay limitations, and each class would be capable to performing a task in different ways, not only the ones available at the quest.

So all classes could be heroes and make sense in lore, also keep in mind that most challenges faced by the adventurers lorewise is regarded as a group of adventurers (the few ones that Blizzard actually acknowledge players of course).

[Scottyjscizzle]

My character literally killed and devoured demons, and can shoot beams of life destroying energy from his eyes. Pretty sure I'll be fine.

[Firefall]

Lore wise a warrior was still the only mortal to ever hurt Sargarus, and lore wise warriors can chop a fel reaver in half while jumping out of a air ship which requires enough megatons of force that his entire body would've turned to mush if he wasn't made out of something like adamantium. Warriors *are* the silly unrealistic action superheroes by the lore.

[Lodravel]

Realistically, rogues wouldn't be able to be 'invisible' and invade every possible fortress.

Well, it was stated before that rogues do use some magic to enhance their abilities. Subtlety, for example, heavily relies on shadow magic for teleportation and superior backstabbing, whatever that means. Their stealth has little to do with actual sneaking.
A case could be made for Assassination, while Outlaw is a different beast altogether. They are more like lightly armored warriors with little honor.

Real world logic has no Point in a fantasy game. If you ever come to something that makes no sense, just remember these words and everything will be ok. "A wizard did it."

Logic never changes. Not in the majority of anything imagined by humans. While the details vary, things like "if A=B and B=C, then A=C" are constant.

Lore wise a warrior was still the only mortal to ever hurt Sargarus, and lore wise warriors can chop a fel reaver in half while jumping out of a air ship which requires enough megatons of force that his entire body would've turned to mush if he wasn't made out of something like adamantium. Warriors *are* the silly unrealistic action superheroes by the lore.

And what, pray tell, happened to those warriors?
Yup.

[Bigbamboozal]

uh, we used to get dragons in our mailbox... stop trying to equate in game and real life like it's a genuine topic you can debate.
my char's killed every top boss in every xpac, you ogres don't even have names, you should just lay down now and play dead.
You even know who I am?
(yes, like austin powers' dad)

[Beerbill Society]

Well, it was stated before that rogues do use some magic to enhance their abilities. Subtlety, for example, heavily relies on shadow magic for teleportation and superior backstabbing, whatever that means. Their stealth has little to do with actual sneaking.
A case could be made for Assassination, while Outlaw is a different beast altogether. They are more like lightly armored warriors with little honor.

Well, maybe we are missing the point here.

It doesn't matter the setting, any class is able to perform as well or better than rogues with the tasks presented in WoW.

[Aucald]

I don't think a Death Knight is going to have a problem with the metrics you defined to be "the Hero." A dozen or so Ogres isn't going to be a match for a life-draining, armor-plated, blood-drinking, soul-freezing, undead army-summoning soldier who's addicted to the infliction of pain. You could make the same type of argument for every other class/spec in WoW.

[Dellis0991]

The Hero=player figure, the one who is going out in the world and doing all the quests.

Think about it, whenever you're sent into and enemy stronghold to kill X, subterfuge is the only possible way the player character could survive. Most areas are so heavily fortified, it would be illogical for any one person to get in there, slaughter everything and get out.

A warrior approaches the ogre den, the ogres ring the alarm, he'd get swarmed and smashed to bits. No armor is gonna safe you from fifteen angry ogres, lorewise. No matter your fighting skills or your prowess in the arcane arts. Most missions the questgivers send us on are suicide missions and we wouldn't survive them outside of some freaky incidents... unless we were some kind of infiltration specialist.
Get in, kill and collect discreetly, and get out with everyone none the wiser.

There are a few exceptions and of course, Dungeons and Raids. Questing, though... if you're not some sort of stealth assassin, you might as well be toast.

It's fantasy, the strength and speed a <insert class> can summon is insane, also your PC in wow is not the normal <insert race>.