State Media CNN PUSHING FOR YET ANOTHER WAR/CRISIS in Venezuela

[Synros]

America should stay out of it, and let Venezuela fall apart.

Let it serve as a reminder to those that need it that Socialism/Communism never works like how they think it does inside their ideological echo-chambers, and always leads to a tyrannical dictatorship that thrives off the suffering of the people.

[Calfredd]

America should stay out of it, and let Venezuela fall apart.

Let it serve as a reminder to those that need it that Socialism/Communism never works like how they think it does inside their ideological echo-chambers, and always leads to a tyrannical dictatorship that thrives off the suffering of the people.

Wouldn't be the first time we screwed with Venezuela.

[sarahtasher]

America should stay out of it, and let Venezuela fall apart.

Let it serve as a reminder to those that need it that Socialism/Communism never works like how they think it does inside their ideological echo-chambers, and always leads to a tyrannical dictatorship that thrives off the suffering of the people.

''SHOULD STAY PUT'' include
stopping to prop people who have less credentials than Maduro (Maduro won a dubious election, Guaido did not even presented himself to the elections
stop doing a proud American tradition, AKA ''for flimsy reasons, seize assets of countries you don't like until they ''elect'' people you like''

Please don't say tyranny. You are certainly not seizing Saudi assets worldwide.

[ABEEnr2]

CNN?? more like the entire US government

[Synros]

''SHOULD STAY PUT'' include
stopping to prop people who have less credentials than Maduro (Maduro won a dubious election, Guaido did not even presented himself to the elections
stop doing a proud American tradition, AKA ''for flimsy reasons, seize assets of countries you don't like until they ''elect'' people you like''

Please don't say tyranny. You are certainly not seizing Saudi assets worldwide.

First, I'm Canadian and didn't vote for Trump. Second, no one cares about your logical fallacies, Sarah...

[sarahtasher]

What is a ''LOGICAL FALLACY'' that ''letting Venezuela alone'' would mean ''stop backing people who have worse democratic credentials than Maduro'' and ''stop seizing Venezuelan assets abroad'' ?

[Rustedsaint]

So how/why was madure able to ban his top 2 opponents? Doesn’t say in the link/too tired to search for it

[igualitarist]

Russian and China, the countries that are backing Maduro, are already getting pissed off with Maduro's regime. Also, many members of venezuelan army is already starting to "defect" to Guaidó's side.

So i guess its a matter of time until Maduro's fall.

But if the situation explodes into a civil war, the intervention of USA's army will be inevitable.

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What is a ''LOGICAL FALLACY'' that ''letting Venezuela alone'' would mean ''stop backing people who have worse democratic credentials than Maduro'' and ''stop seizing Venezuelan assets abroad'' ?

Well, this "leave Venezuela alone" fallacy means: Let the venezuelan illegitimate dictator be undisturbedly backed by Russia and China.

[Templar 331]

So how/why was madure able to ban his top 2 opponents? Doesn’t say in the link/too tired to search for it

http://time.com/5058003/venezuela-ni...sition-banned/

In August, Maduro created the Constituent Assembly — a new, all-powerful body — to replace the opposition-dominated National Assembly and seen as vehicle for enforcing the president’s bidding. Maduro said barring opposition parties from next year’s presidential race was in keeping with criteria set by the Constituent Assembly, according to the BBC.

[Sky High]

I’m sorry did I miss the part where Trump has Anderson Cooper on speed dial? The only “state news” in this country is Fox News.

/looks at what’s circulating around Fox these days

Oh of course they’re saying the exact same bullshit. And of course to absolutely no ones surprise they have to bitch and moan about AOC and drag her into it.

[ABEEnr2]

if people trying to understand whats going on between Venezuela and US watch this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_2sf6qnuNU

[Vash The Stampede]

Really? CNN and not Fox News?

Both are equally bad in my opinion. Fox News is kinda obvious but CNN tries to at least pretend and that makes it worse.

[Orbitus]

I swear to god you post the stupidest shit.

So, no different than the actual Kent Hovind?

[Synros]

If you stayed out of the whole matter Venezuela wouldn't even be in this shit.
The majority of their problems come from the sanctions and the aid the US is giving to a part of the opposition.

Clearly you're incapable of reading, because I've already said that I'm not American... Even if I was, it would still be irrelevant.

Venezuela is in their current predicament because they voted in a hardline Socialist, and to absolutely no surprise, he turned out to be a wolf in sheep's clothing. There's a century's worth of history showing just how disastrous Communism and Socialism is, but Venezuelans choose to doom themselves by ignoring it. It's no one's fault but their own.

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I’m sorry did I miss the part where Trump has Anderson Cooper on speed dial? The only “state news” in this country is Fox News.

/looks at what’s circulating around Fox these days

Oh of course they’re saying the exact same bullshit. And of course to absolutely no ones surprise they have to bitch and moan about AOC and drag her into it.

Nice Whataboutisms, dude... You really are incapable of forming any coherent argument, aren't you?...

[niztheundead87]

classic americans blaming a country's leader of being a dictator or any made up fact to mess it up.
no random that venezuela has the largest oil reserve.

[Sky High]

Nice Whataboutisms, dude... You really are incapable of forming any coherent argument, aren't you?...

hey, genius, do you see me defending CNN anywhere in that post? you don't because I'm not. as I pointed out it's Fox that has a main line into the Trump Administration and they are saying the exact same propogandic bullshit as CNN in regards to Venezuela. get the fuck out of here.

The problem is mainstream news in general so why the fuck are we focusing on only ONE of the bad actors here?

[Templar 331]

Those weren't the most popular leaders at all.

Irrelevant.

Both of them participated in multiple coups.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopol...on_controversy

In an April 2008 ruling announced by Venezuela's chief prosecutor and then upheld by court decision,^[51] López and several hundred other Venezuelans were barred from running in the November 2008 elections, for reasons of alleged corruption.^[52] Eighty percent of those barred belonged to the opposition.

Although López and others accused of corruption were never tried or convicted,

Starting to see a pattern...

In other countries, like yours, they would have been killed by now. But Venezuela (sadly) doesn't have the death penalty and those losers are way too nice against people involved in coups.

What coup?

[P for Pancetta]

What policies caused this?
Oh wait, you can't name any?
You're just another bootlicker parroting what the MSM tells you?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breaki...is-900603.html

You're being ignorant and obtuse as usually I see, the reality is that the reason why Venezuela is in this situation is because they did not diversify their economy. They had ample opportunity to so and despite this they kept relying on their oil exports until the oil prices dropped and their economy crashed (long before the US sanctions "responsible" for this crisis). The guy you're responding to didn't talk about policies (you pulled them out of your butt) because the lack of policies is one of the primary reasons for this situation.

It's true that the US sanctions are not helping Venezuela, but that is the point of sanctions. Venezuela is in the backyard of the USA and they've been playing ball with the adversaries of the US. Had this been a lack of foresight and naivety on Maduro's part it would have made him an absolute failure of a leader, but Maduro likely already realized this before hand and just doesn't give a damn, because he got what he was after; a life of wealth, luxury and power.

[KOUNTERPARTS]

no random that venezuela has the largest oil reserve.

is this true ? that would be perfect comedic irony , given that meme about America "they have oil? looks like they are ready for democracy" is a thing

is this true ?

[NED funded]

You're being ignorant and obtuse as usually I see, the reality is that the reason why Venezuela is in this situation is because they did not diversify their economy. They had ample opportunity to so and despite this they kept relying on their oil exports until the oil prices dropped and their economy crashed (long before the US sanctions "responsible" for this crisis). The guy you're responding to didn't talk about policies (you pulled them out of your butt) because the lack of policies is one of the primary reasons for this situation.

Its more than diversifying. No oil dependent country faced the decline Venezuela faced, why? Because most countries built a rainy fund. When oil prices dropped they could just tap into it and afford basic expenses. Venezuela instead opted to massively print currency to pay off debts and afford imports. Price controls made the already worsening situation worse as most businesses couldn't adjust prices to respond to inflation and went out of business or simply went to the black market. It doesn't help that oil production in Venezuela hasn't recovered despite the prices.

A lot of shit went wrong with Venezuela, all of it is the result of incompetence by the socialist Chavez government.