Warfronts - Purgatory of WoW

[Capncruncher]

Warfronts could be great if it included the players on the opposing team. I don't know why they would have a pvp version of island expeditions and not have a pvp option for warfronts

[Lochton]

So since everyone has to do the new warfront again because it provides a free ilvl 400 item, I just figured out why warfonts are the worst content in mmo history.

The warfont takes about 20 minutes to complete and there is not much you can do to speed it up. An efficient player like me would think to himself "Nothing I do here matters so i'll just go afk for that time and do something more productive like making my taxes or cutting my toenails" but here comes the issue: The LFR Police!

Some lowlifes are always checking the map and if you arent in immediate proximity the the rest of the group you'll get called out and kicked. Kinda like it is in Island expeditions. LFR-Hero number 1 sees that you arent close to him and therefore you have to be kicked although you are basically clearing the Island by yourself.
Of course in the case of the wafront you are really afk.

What I am trying to say is:

There is nothing to do inside the warfont. It is just a waiting game. But you also cannot be afk for that waiting game because you'll get kicked. So you have to do something but there isnt anything to do. This is how I imagine Hell, hence the title.

Participate and work together makes it go faster? AFK'ing makes it go slower - if you didn't know that...

[Pinksocking]

Participate and work together makes it go faster? AFK'ing makes it go slower - if you didn't know that...

He'd rather loot just be given to him !

[Mic_128]

Warfronts could be great if it included the players on the opposing team. I don't know why they would have a pvp version of island expeditions and not have a pvp option for warfronts

Because they don't want a situation with Wintergrasp/Tol'Barad where one faction just has control over it forever.

[Lochton]

He'd rather loot just be given to him !

Too common now a days..

[Mardux]

how you can loose a WF ? Its that minimum agression of opposite AI site that the selfheal mechanics from traits alone keeps players alive. and even if not, you are just watching all ppl standing at graveyard and scenario waits for getting the bases back. nothing happens. you can not loose.

in short: the only impact you have, is the time until the scenario is over.

You can "loose" a warfront if your commander dies... Sort of like how you win a warfront if the enemy commander dies.

Just because you claim you can't lose, doesn't actually make it true. All it takes is to understand how google works to see that its possible to lose a warfront.

[Phuongvi]

At least you should turn the ressources in your chest to speed the shit out of the warfront
This is the only thing that matter, turn the resources at the right place to build the fucking catapult asap

[artam]

I personally enjoy Warfronts and do them for Fun even without needing the gear.

That´s a bold stance these days

[Accendor]

You can "loose" a warfront if your commander dies... Sort of like how you win a warfront if the enemy commander dies.

Just because you claim you can't lose, doesn't actually make it true. All it takes is to understand how google works to see that its possible to lose a warfront.

It is also possible that tonight Scarlett Johansson, Jennifer Lawrence and Emma Stone come to my flat with 10 million Euro and invite me to an intimate party, it is just not very likely to happen.
The likelihood of losing a warfront, even with 15 people afking, is roughly equally high.

[Sansnom]

What I am trying to say is:

There is nothing to do inside the warfont. It is just a waiting game. But you also cannot be afk for that waiting game because you'll get kicked. So you have to do something but there isnt anything to do. This is how I imagine Hell, hence the title.

You want the loot. You jump through the hoops. Like everyone else.

Whether you are super casual or world first elite all mighty. You are still just another player. You do not get a free pass.

[Kyanion]

What if it's completely dog shit content that is purposefully designed so that there's a 95% chance you can't lose it and it gives absurdly high iLevel loot for just being there?

You know, maybe if WoW took a cue from other MMOs and rewarded people based on participation then this game wouldn't be so shit.

But you know - here we are.

Still means they are a piece of shit for afking.

[Puremallace]

Agreed they are trash. IF I wanted to be a peon I would be played Age of Empires or the original RTS games.

[Mardux]

It is also possible that tonight Scarlett Johansson, Jennifer Lawrence and Emma Stone come to my flat with 10 million Euro and invite me to an intimate party, it is just not very likely to happen.
The likelihood of losing a warfront, even with 15 people afking, is roughly equally high.

You can attempt to refute my statement by using hyperbole if you want, it doesn't work though. At least you tried, unlike the OP.

The person i quoted claimed that you can't lose a Warfront. That was a lie, just like you claiming theres an equal chance of losing a wf as there is for 3 a-listers to go to "your flat" is a lie.

You can lose a wf if too many scrubs (like OP and the person i replied to) afk the entire scenario. And three a-listers are extremely unlikely to ever go to your parents house.

[Berndorf]

What I will say is that the Darkshore warfront is worse than the Arathi one. Both are basically 25-30m wastes of time but Arathi just feels funner to me and doesn't have the 10m of mob burning at the start. They to do make some major changes to them going forward just to make them feel even slightly fun to do.

[Swalload]

So since everyone has to do the new warfront again because it provides a free ilvl 400 item, I just figured out why warfonts are the worst content in mmo history.

The warfont takes about 20 minutes to complete and there is not much you can do to speed it up. An efficient player like me would think to himself "Nothing I do here matters so i'll just go afk for that time and do something more productive like making my taxes or cutting my toenails" but here comes the issue: The LFR Police!

Some lowlifes are always checking the map and if you arent in immediate proximity the the rest of the group you'll get called out and kicked. Kinda like it is in Island expeditions. LFR-Hero number 1 sees that you arent close to him and therefore you have to be kicked although you are basically clearing the Island by yourself.
Of course in the case of the wafront you are really afk.

What I am trying to say is:

There is nothing to do inside the warfont. It is just a waiting game. But you also cannot be afk for that waiting game because you'll get kicked. So you have to do something but there isnt anything to do. This is how I imagine Hell, hence the title.

While I kinda agree with your point, there's also no reason not to put a tiny bit of effort for a short 20 minutes. Just get a second monitor and do whatever on it while just following the crowd around and right click mobs.

[uopayroll]

Funny thing with Darkshore is those trying to take a shortcut and downing a mech with less than all three glaives causes the warfront to bug out. SO enough AFK and not enough iron for example and go at it with two glaives...voila. Technically not a loss of the WF, but a loss of whatever time you spent in there (and anybody unlucky enough to be put into it as players leave)

[Zyrinx]

I'm only in it for the 20 god-pounding reward thingies.

Once I hit 750, #neveragain.

[Djuntas]

So since everyone has to do the new warfront again because it provides a free ilvl 400 item, I just figured out why warfonts are the worst content in mmo history.

The warfont takes about 20 minutes to complete and there is not much you can do to speed it up. An efficient player like me would think to himself "Nothing I do here matters so i'll just go afk for that time and do something more productive like making my taxes or cutting my toenails" but here comes the issue: The LFR Police!

Some lowlifes are always checking the map and if you arent in immediate proximity the the rest of the group you'll get called out and kicked. Kinda like it is in Island expeditions. LFR-Hero number 1 sees that you arent close to him and therefore you have to be kicked although you are basically clearing the Island by yourself.
Of course in the case of the wafront you are really afk.

What I am trying to say is:

There is nothing to do inside the warfont. It is just a waiting game. But you also cannot be afk for that waiting game because you'll get kicked. So you have to do something but there isnt anything to do. This is how I imagine Hell, hence the title.

Thank you, 100% accurate. I afk them as much as I can...

[Rampant Rabbit]

So since everyone has to do the new warfront again because it provides a free ilvl 400 item, I just figured out why warfonts are the worst content in mmo history.

The warfont takes about 20 minutes to complete and there is not much you can do to speed it up. An efficient player like me would think to himself "Nothing I do here matters so i'll just go afk for that time and do something more productive like making my taxes or cutting my toenails" but here comes the issue: The LFR Police!

Some lowlifes are always checking the map and if you arent in immediate proximity the the rest of the group you'll get called out and kicked. Kinda like it is in Island expeditions. LFR-Hero number 1 sees that you arent close to him and therefore you have to be kicked although you are basically clearing the Island by yourself.
Of course in the case of the wafront you are really afk.

What I am trying to say is:

There is nothing to do inside the warfont. It is just a waiting game. But you also cannot be afk for that waiting game because you'll get kicked. So you have to do something but there isnt anything to do. This is how I imagine Hell, hence the title.

Can you even complete a Warfront if the entire raid idles? You still need to build up the required buildings and catapults so you can get catapults to passively deal damage to the gate, and are literally the only means of destroying the gate. I'm not entirely sure if you actually need the other bases on the map, but I doubt that an idle raid group would finish just as fast as a raid that actively participates in the objectives.

I doubt that anyone thinks Warfronts that aren't a drag or fun, and they just want to get it over with.

[Nasuuna]

i spend the entire warfront getting resources away from people and I never get kicked /shrug