Will Western civilization collapse?

[Techno-Druid]

Get up and look around in your room. Everything that is visible to your eye such as the monitor,modem,keyboard you typed that post on. Everything that is not visible to your eye but still there such as electricity safely delivered to your house,insulation in between the walls keeping your room warm has been invented,perfectionist and made available/affordable to you by the west.

The minute the west is gone all those things will stagnate,fall apart and won't be affordable anymore to the average person.

That bridge is known as Sebara Dildiy (literally "broken bridge" in Amharic) and was built over the Blue Nile during the reign of Emperor Fasilides of Abyssinia (modern day Ethiopia).

[VanishingAct]

Yes
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[Ermelloth]

As long as Western civilization manages to oppose radical Islamism with success and, eventually, drive this retrograde fascist ideology out of this world completely, it's gonna prevail and thrive.

Islamism is not compatible with Western culture, Western values and liberalism in general; it's today's counter-ideology to all what we, Western people, love and care for. Therefore, our world must battle Islamism, pan-Islamism and radical Islamism "to the death" and liberate people, living in eternal darkness thanks to radical Islamic propaganda and corrupt Mid-Eastern authoritarian governments.

Thus, there aren't "bad" nations or "bad" countries in the world. There are bad ideologies.

[Alkhan]

As long as Western civilization manages to oppose radical Islamism with success and, eventually, drive this retrograde fascist ideology out of this world completely, it's gonna prevail and thrive.

Islamism is not compatible with Western culture, Western values and liberalism in general; it's today's counter-ideology to all what we, Western people, love and care for. Therefore, our world must battle Islamism, pan-Islamism and radical Islamism "to the death" and liberate people, living in eternal darkness thanks to radical Islamic propaganda and corrupt Mid-Eastern authoritarian governments.

Thus, there aren't "bad" nations or "bad" countries in the world. There are bad ideologies.

All that stuff that is going on right now is peanuts compared to 2040+ when the Middle East and some African Countries will run out of water and every single human being populating those places (including all radicals) will migrate to the west.

The existential question for us is will we be united enough and clear of mind to background check / filter those people and make it crystal clear that supporting Islamic law means no entry to the west or will we simply let them all in with all their baggage,problems and bad ethics/ideas like they did in Europe and watch our ideals/laws and infrastructure erode from the inside.

[Laerrus]

The article seems like more of a way for the author to get his left wing agenda across.

Do you think Western civilization will collapse in. . . say in the next 100 years?

I believe the gun loving, food hoarding, bunker building right wing preppers call that SHTF.

Because they all know that Obama is really the Antichrist and is just biding his time till he can rain hellfire down all over the planet.

[smityx]

Totally collapse possibly not. Adapt and evolve to current situations probably.

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I believe the gun loving, food hoarding, bunker building right wing preppers call that SHTF.

Because they all know that Obama is really the Antichrist and is just biding his time till he can rain hellfire down all over the planet.

Does anyone know if Donald shut down all the Walmart basement FEMA camps that were setup for the US attack on it's own citizens under the guise of Jade Helm. Or have they all been converted to Mexican concentration camps... err sorry internment camps... err sorry again detention facilities.

[Gestopft]

Given that "Western Civilization" is an ill-defined nebulous concept, often with contradictory definitions, I'm going to say "no." But whatever "it" is will change. The one constant in culture is change.

[arandomuser]

Collapse or evolve? it will evolve, as michio kaku said, hes a brilliant PHD physicist, we are becoming a type 1 civilization, which is global, bordeless, and its inevitable, and the nationalist, the identitarians, will try to sabatoge and slow it through any means necessary including fascism, but ultimately the free market will prevail and society will be elevated to something completely new and prosperous.

[the game]

everything ends. eventually.

[arandomuser]

globalism was leading to a type 1 civilization which is the next step, it sucks its being delayed, but in time, less then 100 years it will be inevitable

[Zython]

It's still the most stable so not before everyone else.

I mean, that's mostly because the west is destabilizing the rest of the world.

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Yes, it will. We have this saying in Poland, "socialism is a system that courageously battles problems that are non-existant in any other system". Switch "socialism" with "leftism" and it's the same - western media are busy coming up with artificial problems instead of talking about the real ones, and the real problems are grave. Basically every point listed in the OP is true for our civilisation. We have climate change and, more importantly, environmental degradation issue on a scale that no other civilisation before us faced. There is inequality, which is already massive and is growing bigger every day. Oligarchy? We have big corporations fitting those shoes. External shocks?

But all of those problems were created by capitalism, not socialism.

We have immigration from Africa and Middle East problem here in EU - and immigration is exactly the thing that killed Roman Empire. It didn't kill Rome on its own, but it was coupled with the pussification of its citizens and constant civil wars.

We don't have civil wars per se in the West, but we definitely do have the pussification.

That's strange. Every civilization that has prized barbarism and cruelty has fallen? Why is that?

This just comes back to the point I've mentioned before, that is the media creating artificial issues, covering up the real ones, and most importantly, creating divisions in the society. Be it Trump vs Clinton, nationalists vs socialists, gay supporters vs "homophobes", these are all purposedly magnified by the media to create divisions between the people, who are then easier to rule.

We are bound for disaster and it will not be avoided.

"We need to be united against threats, and the division is everyone else's fault."

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As long as Western civilization manages to oppose radical Islamism with success and, eventually, drive this retrograde fascist ideology out of this world completely, it's gonna prevail and thrive.

Islamism is not compatible with Western culture, Western values and liberalism in general; it's today's counter-ideology to all what we, Western people, love and care for. Therefore, our world must battle Islamism, pan-Islamism and radical Islamism "to the death" and liberate people, living in eternal darkness thanks to radical Islamic propaganda and corrupt Mid-Eastern authoritarian governments.

Thus, there aren't "bad" nations or "bad" countries in the world. There are bad ideologies.

"We need to preserve liberalism by murdering everyone who looks at us funny."

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All that stuff that is going on right now is peanuts compared to 2040+ when the Middle East and some African Countries will run out of water and every single human being populating those places (including all radicals) will migrate to the west.

The existential question for us is will we be united enough and clear of mind to background check / filter those people and make it crystal clear that supporting Islamic law means no entry to the west or will we simply let them all in with all their baggage,problems and bad ethics/ideas like they did in Europe and watch our ideals/laws and infrastructure erode from the inside.

You know you're kind of giving the game away when you openly acknowledge how climate change is going to devastate the global south, but we shouldn't address climate change, but rather commit genocide against those whose lands you made barren. Right?

[Vatrilian]

I also "run" the Tulsi club I see you can't help yourself, even after "ignoring" me. Who would have thought.

So, how about you let us know what's wrong with where I come from? It was never even a secret, I was open about it, and as I said, the IP consistently checks. The Vlad Tepes avatar further adds to the flavor, yes?

Because why spend so much time on a countries politics, especially an old socialist like Bernie Sanders. Especially when you come from a country that was ravaged by socialism and is still developing because of it.

[vilememory]

Yes it will and it is going to take the rest of the world with it, launching every nuke and chemical/biological weapon they have. Because if the people in power can't rule then there will be no world.

[Shadowferal]

Because why spend so much time on a countries politics, especially an old socialist like Bernie Sanders. Especially when you come from a country that was ravaged by socialism and is still developing because of it.

Bernie Sanders looks to examples such as Norway.
Although I'm sure you deny that all to hell, since that fucks up your argument.

[Flarelaine]

Roman influence did. I was having a good conversation just yesterday on how undervalued Ancient African nations like Axium, Numidia, Mauritania, Mali and Ghana. Much of the existing perception of Africa is mostly the remnants of European propaganda to justify first the Slave trade, then Colonization. Historically, Africa has been home to dozens of extremely well developed and structured nations. Europe just broke Africa really hard starting around the 16th century and lasting to the present.

All of that is true. And all that really makes it moot whether the bridge was built by Romans, because Axum or Nubia would have been just as capable.

As for Europe breaking Africa, it is generally true, but Ethiopia specifically was considered friendly on account of being a Christian land in a sea of Muslims, so no European nation bothered them until the very late 19th century. And at the time, they could still beat back Italy, their would-be conquerors. So I guess they must have broke at some later point. I'm not up to date on the details of how exactly Ethiopia fared in the 20th century, but becoming a communist dictatorship kinda suggests itself as the reason.

Of course, that could still be considered a way of Europe breaking Africa...

[Vatrilian]

Bernie Sanders looks to examples such as Norway.
Although I'm sure you deny that all to hell, since that fucks up your argument.

Expect Norway isn’t a socialist country. It has a small homogeneous population with huge amount of resources. That is not a model for success for the United States who is far more complex than Norway. The United States is the most powerful country on earth with the largest economy why would we copy Norway who is at best a small regional player with no influence in the world?

[xenogear3]

At one point, many people think USSR will take over the world.

It is the first country launch a satellite.
It has the most nuclear, tanks, missiles, etc.

[Vatrilian]

At one point, many people think USSR will take over the world.

It is the first country launch a satellite.
It has the most nuclear, tanks, missiles, etc.

Expect communism always fails.

[OmniSkribe]

Expect communism always fails.

Just like any other form of rule where average people get opressed. No matter how you call it.

[Vatrilian]

Just like any other form of rule where average people get opressed. No matter how you call it.

Communism is a uniparty state with full government control over everything in your lif. Little different between a capitalistic democracy with choice involved in your leadership and government not so connected to your life.