Far left democrats and SJWs are scaring off moderates like me.

[Masark]

It should be.

You'll need to eradicate the "lost cause of the south" from your so called history classes too.

[shimerra]

Btw, I work on the border and we need the wall. Why don't you believe us? Oh, and our cred fear laws need to be changed, otherwise it'll be abused until there's no more. It's a huge scam, but guess where they end up? In your neighborhood and never go see the immigration judge because it's a SCAM.

Spent most of my life in and around border states. No the border wall isn't needed. And even if the problem is as bad as you claim it was the wall is about as good of an idea as it is to cut off your testicles because they itch. Even if we take your dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb and wrong opinion that illegals are the cancer siphoning the health of america into their greedy pockets from hard working rednecks the wall is the hands down most expensive, stupid, and ineffective way to fix the problem.


I'm starting to lose count of the number of people that not only show Trump is a moron, including a foreign official laughing in the President of the United State's face while he tries to correct someone with WRONG information, and on top of that refuses to learn. The actual policy Trump has enacted such as his trade wars and the Tax cut have actually reduced GDP from what it was projected to be and blown a multi trillion dollar hole in the deficit. That's right, the deficit went up and the % growth for GDP went down from what we expected it to be. I mean I personally watched Trump multiple times state that the U6 unemployment rate was anywhere from 22-44%, numbers that don't make sense to a 2 year old.

Also I'm curious how those employment numbers add up, because the literal month before he took office they were fake news from the lieing Obama government. Then the month after Trump takes office, despite having done literally nothing to influence those numbers, the exact same numbers continuing their trend were god's gift to the economy!

[Adam Jensen]

You'll need to eradicate the "lost cause of the south" from your so called history classes too.

No arguments from me on that.

[Kyphael]

I don't know why people think American politics have changed drastically since 2000. They haven't.



Release the choke hold the two-party system has on politics or it's a revolving door of the same shit every four years.

[MikeBogina]

You asked a leading question that grossly misrepresented my post. It was such an egregious misinterpretation it was clear you were doing so out of malice. Whining because I noticed your schtick and called you out on it is just sad.

Clearly I'm not the only one who has "misinterpreted" what you said. I asked you to clarify and I assumed my interpretation of what you said was wrong, which is why I jumped the gun and said it it was true, that's nonsense... because I actually for some reason think more highly of you then the rest of the left posters on here(Idk why).

And there's no whining on my part(not calling you a liar over and over) just wanted to know what you meant because both statements seemed the same, worded differently.

Given that the two statements aren't even remotely alike, there's no way that you legitimately reached that conclusion.

sure

My original statement was nothing more than presuming that the accuser is not committing a crime, without proof. That's it. You made up everything else, and pretended that was my argument.

I'm so confused, I literally asked you a question of clarification, said I think you're a smart guy, but if that is what you meant, then it's nonsense. You're making it out like I said multiple things that aren't true. Like I don't know if you read my post, after reading someone else, but there was literally nothing more than me asking a question of you. Maybe it was the part that I said I think you're a smart guy that triggered you, idk, but clearly you didn't take the question well. Sorry for that, I'll try to remember it for the future.

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I don't know why people think American politics have changed drastically since 2000. They haven't.



Release the choke hold the two-party system has on politics or it's a revolving door of the same shit every four years.

Our first president warned us of this and sadly no one heeded it :/

[Wyrt]

I don't know why people think American politics have changed drastically since 2000. They haven't.



Release the choke hold the two-party system has on politics or it's a revolving door of the same shit every four years.

Well, we'd need significant election reform to do that. And good luck getting that when the people who'd be responsible for changing it are the same ones who benefit from the way it currently is.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Read the OP's posting history - he's being very very deceptive in his post. He's clearly not a Democrat. Unfortunatley, he's proven to show he deserves the Scorn, Ridicule and Hostility because of the lie he's posting right now - and his previous posting history. He's not moving from some political position because he never was there to begin with. He's openly lying to try to get people to hate "liberalz", that's the whole point of this thread.

But, I will address your point - and I answer with this: Sticks and Stones.

When you're an adult, you face insults all the time on the forum and you ignore them. There's no courtroom defense that ever gets actions justified because "The guy called me names!"

My advice? If he keeps being called something, maybe he should examine what he says and his actions. Claiming "Liberalz" are pushing him to become something is exactly the same thing rapists argue about a woman who dresses provocatively, then calls the man a "Pig" for hitting on her forcefully and rejects him. If he really isn't doing anything, than you ignore the people and move on.

What kind of a sad man are you if you're going to let some people who call you names on an internet forum influence your thinking to willingly choose self-destructive actions in retaliation? o_O

Yeah it's recent trend online and new here on MMO

"I voted for Obama twice"

"I know a lot of black people"

" I hate Trump, but"

[Flarelaine]

And that's how Donald Trump got elected.

Dems said "We don't want SCUM like you voting for us!" to anyone not left leaning enough.

Trump said "I hope everyone votes for me. Bernie voters, gay voters, union voters, I welcome you all to vote Trump!"

Do you have a citation of which candidate said this when?

[Endus]

Clearly I'm not the only one who has "misinterpreted" what you said. I asked you to clarify and I assumed my interpretation of what you said was wrong, which is why I jumped the gun and said it it was true, that's nonsense... because I actually for some reason think more highly of you then the rest of the left posters on here(Idk why).

And there's no whining on my part(not calling you a liar over and over) just wanted to know what you meant because both statements seemed the same, worded differently.


sure

I'm so confused, I literally asked you a question of clarification, said I think you're a smart guy, but if that is what you meant, then it's nonsense. You're making it out like I said multiple things that aren't true. Like I don't know if you read my post, after reading someone else, but there was literally nothing more than me asking a question of you. Maybe it was the part that I said I think you're a smart guy that triggered you, idk, but clearly you didn't take the question well. Sorry for that, I'll try to remember it for the future.

There's a word for what you're doing.

That word is "gaslighting".

[Fincayra]

Rape accusations still need to establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. There is no such "special caveat". Stop making up complete bullshit.

He put forth his comment essentially making the argument that I said that women should just keep their mouths shut. I said no such thing. Perhaps my original comment on the issue wasn't clear, so I'll make it clear now: If someone gets raped, the rapist needs to be properly punished. No questions asked.

I also think that people shouldn't face societal ostracization, job loss or financial loss due to being accused of a crime. An accusation doesn't imply guilt in our society, or at least it shouldn't. I am aware that in America criminal justice that we have the privilege of perceived innocence until proven guilty. This privilege doesn't extend to society as a whole, but it goddamn well should. I'm for a whole lot of reform when it comes to criminal justice. People who serve their time have problems finding jobs after they get out, loved ones who had nothing to do with the crimes of their relatives suffer because their income earner went to prison/ect. There's a shit load of problems that I feel need to be fixed, and social justice and its relations to societal ostracization are just one of them.

[Ragedaug]

Read the OP's posting history - he's being very very deceptive in his post. He's clearly not a Democrat. Unfortunatley, he's proven to show he deserves the Scorn, Ridicule and Hostility because of the lie he's posting right now - and his previous posting history. He's not moving from some political position because he never was there to begin with. He's openly lying to try to get people to hate "liberalz", that's the whole point of this thread.

This is exactly his point and why the Democrats are losing his vote. He aligns with the Democrats on more points than he aligns with the Republicans. He stated his positions in that post. But because he dares not go straight party line as the farthest Left in the party, on every single policy, the Democrat party (as evidenced by your post) has rejected him.

If you aren't aligned with the farthest left in the party you get roasted and lambasted in Social Media. Biden was getting fried for calling Pence a decent guy. Jimmy Fallon got fried for humanizing humans. Both had to apologize to the extreme of the party for radical views such as "reaching across the isle" or "treating people in the other party like they are human".

The Overton window is getting smaller and smaller and the Republicans are welcoming anyone the Democrats spit out, who just want to be listened to, regardless of their political ideology. Everyone in the "Intellectual Dark Web" identifies as liberal with the exception of Ben Shapiro, but the Left calls them all evil and hateful and worse, while the Right attends and listens to their speeches and welcomes them with open arms.

Hardcore Leftist Feminist gets spit on by the Left for disagreeing with standard Democrat stance on Transgenderism, and guess who is ready and willing to bring them in and give them a voice and accept their vote? If you guessed Tucker Carlson, Fox News, and the GOP, you would be right.

[MikeBogina]

There's a word for what you're doing.

That word is "gaslighting".

Ok "strawman" king of the forums

[Yuujin]

Ok "strawman" king of the forums

You either purposely misinterpreted (or based off of your responses just flat out didn't understand) what he meant by good-faith statement and decided to twist it to mean something it did not, then accused him of making that statement. When he called you out on your bullshit you doubled down and played the victim card, and now you're still trying to turn it around like he's the asshole.

You're sad, bro.

[Ragedaug]

Do you have a citation of which candidate said this when?

Hillary was one. How many citations are you looking for?
http://time.com/4486502/hillary-clin...es-transcript/

CNN says the biggest threat to the country is white men. I imagine that doesn't charm many white men to side with them. Not a single Democrat politician rebutted that statement.

Common statement heard from the Left is that white men shouldn't have a voice. Should White Boys Be Heard? Dickenson Student Says No - granted they are only the 2nd biggest voting block next to white women, but that's the message white men are receiving from Democrats, and there's not a single Democrat politician opposing that sentiment. They can't. Like Biden, if they attempt to suggest they should be more inclusive, they'll get lit up on Social Media.


The OP of this thread shows he aligns with Democrats on more policies than Republicans and the Democrats in this thread spit him out saying he was never a Democrat. To be a Democrat means completely aligning your political view with the farthest left, least tolerant people, in the party and never suggesting there's anything the Democrats are doing wrong or could do better.

[shimerra]

Hillary was one. How many citations are you looking for?
http://time.com/4486502/hillary-clin...es-transcript/

CNN says the biggest threat to the country is white men. I imagine that doesn't charm many white men to side with them. Not a single Democrat politician rebutted that statement.

Common statement heard from the Left is that white men shouldn't have a voice. Should White Boys Be Heard? Dickenson Student Says No - granted they are only the 2nd biggest voting block next to white women, but that's the message white men are receiving from Democrats, and there's not a single Democrat politician opposing that sentiment. They can't. Like Biden, if they attempt to suggest they should be more inclusive, they'll get lit up on Social Media.


The OP of this thread shows he aligns with Democrats on more policies than Republicans and the Democrats in this thread spit him out saying he was never a Democrat. To be a Democrat means completely aligning your political view with the farthest left, least tolerant people, in the party and never suggesting there's anything the Democrats are doing wrong or could do better.

Sounds a lot like your average Republican. Who was out there pissing and whining about how Socialist Obama care was going to ruin their Medicare. wait waht?

[Ragedaug]

I don't know why people think American politics have changed drastically since 2000. They haven't.



Release the choke hold the two-party system has on politics or it's a revolving door of the same shit every four years.

People are too stuck on tribal politics. Folks on both sides are too willingly blind to see what their candidate is doing wrong and feel if they give an inch they'll get swept under and while both tribes fight to hold this stance, nothing changes.

IMO, the only way we can fix this is with a tiered voting system, so we don't get stuck with the less really bad candidate each time. But the politicians know that splitting the country into 2 halfs and getting the population to fight each other is their ticket to stay in power while abusing any power they want.

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Sounds a lot like your average Republican. Who was out there pissing and whining about how Socialist Obama care was going to ruin their Medicare. wait waht?

I'm pretty sure that was the GOP as well as some folks from other parties like the Libertarians and what not that pissed and whined about the ACA ruining everything. So yeah...average Republicans. Not sure what that has to do with my post, but I'm happy to answer your question. Not sure if you just weren't sure who it was or if there was a point you were making. Either way, you are welcome.

[Yuujin]

Hillary was one. How many citations are you looking for?
http://time.com/4486502/hillary-clin...es-transcript/

CNN says the biggest threat to the country is white men. I imagine that doesn't charm many white men to side with them. Not a single Democrat politician rebutted that statement.

Don Lemon, who I guess is CNN now to the simple minded folks, points out the hypocrisy with Islamophobia in America, and how more home grown terror attacks are commited by radical Right Wing white males but the Right completely ignores that and simple folks focus on what the statement was twisted to mean.

Got it.

Common statement heard from the Left is that white men shouldn't have a voice. Should White Boys Be Heard? Dickenson Student Says No - granted they are only the 2nd biggest voting block next to white women, but that's the message white men are receiving from Democrats, and there's not a single Democrat politician opposing that sentiment. They can't. Like Biden, if they attempt to suggest they should be more inclusive, they'll get lit up on Social Media.

~40 million registered democratic voters in the USA. Some guy says white people shouldn't have voices. It's common, guys!

The OP of this thread shows he aligns with Democrats on more policies than Republicans and the Democrats in this thread spit him out saying he was never a Democrat. To be a Democrat means completely aligning your political view with the farthest left, least tolerant people, in the party and never suggesting there's anything the Democrats are doing wrong or could do better.

OP hasn't shown anything. OP made statements. You obviously can't tell the difference between lip service, misrepresentation of facts, and you also don't understand scope at all. Not surprised you fell for his bait.

[mvaliz]

This is exactly his point and why the Democrats are losing his vote.

Liar

The Democrats never had his vote to begin with - the guy even admitted it earlier in the thread he didn't voted for Hillary durring 2016, nevermind all his racist crazy shit he posted before. Look back in the thread where I highlight the shit he posted...

It's high-time I threw your disingenuous self on ignore...

[Ragedaug]

Don Lemon, who I guess is CNN now to the simple minded folks, points out the hypocrisy with Islamophobia in America, and how more home grown terror attacks are committed by radical Right Wing white males but the Right completely ignores that and simple folks focus on what the statement was twisted to mean.

Don Lemon represents CNN. The statement went out on CNN. CNN did not retract or rebutt the statement. That equals CNN, whose representative said it, and they broadcast it, made the statement. That's how it works. Nice insult there to call me simple minded though. I guess calling me dumb makes you automatically win any dispute?

Heart disease is the biggest threat to Americans. Followed by being in a moving vehicle. As far as homicides go, it's many, many times lower than either of those, but you are way more likely to be killed by a random black man (95% chance he's a Democrat = Left Wing), than by a Muslim terrorist, and even less so being killed by a non-muslim (or white dude) terrorist. You are more likely to be killed by a lightning than by a white terrorist. So yeah...not the biggest threat to the country. Saying so would make one look like an imbecile.

~40 million registered democratic voters in the USA. Some guy says white people shouldn't have voices. It's common, guys!

Yeah...there's only one person saying that..sure.

OP hasn't shown anything. OP made statements. You obviously can't tell the difference between lip service, misrepresentation of facts, and you also don't understand scope at all. Not surprised you fell for his bait.

The OP named what's he's for right in the post. You would just rather he vote with Republicans because he doesn't line up completely with you...and the GOP thanks you for your service.

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Liar

The Democrats never had his vote to begin with - the guy even admitted it earlier in the thread he didn't voted for Hillary durring 2016, nevermind all his racist crazy shit he posted before. Look back in the thread where I highlight the shit he posted...

It's high-time I threw your disingenuous self on ignore...

I'm lying when the dude said he voted for Kerry and Obama? Alright. You have an interesting way of defining words. You sound angry.

[Yuujin]

Don Lemon represents CNN. The statement went out on CNN. CNN did not retract or rebutt the statement. That equals CNN, whose representative said it, and they broadcast it, made the statement. That's how it works. Nice insult there to call me simple minded though. I guess calling me dumb makes you automatically win any dispute?

If the shoe fits. Why would they offer a rebuttal on a fact? You are more likely to die by a Right Wing terrorist than you are a Muslim terrorist. Just because you don't like the facts doesn't make them true.

Heart disease is the biggest threat to Americans. Followed by being in a moving vehicle. As far as homicides go, it's many, many times lower than either of those, but you are way more likely to be killed by a random black man (95% chance he's a Democrat = Left Wing), than by a Muslim terrorist, and even less so being killed by a non-muslim (or white dude) terrorist. You are more likely to be killed by a lightning than by a white terrorist. So yeah...not the biggest threat to the country. Saying so makes you look like an imbecile.

The statement, which was about terror attacks, is not false. If you're making a statement about terror attacks, then bring up heart disease or other non terror related crimes, that wouldn't make much sense. You'd have to be an imbecile to expect him to.

I mean, in context the statement is factually true. I don't understand why it offends people so much. Just like facts concerning black homicide. Turns out one fact doesn't override another fact though, despite how desperately you might want it to or try to make it.

Yeah...there's only one person saying that..sure.

Feel free to find me an abundance of Democrats that support white people not having a voice.

The OP named what's he's for right in the post. You would just rather he vote with Republicans because he doesn't line up completely with you...and the GOP thanks you for your service.

Again, you've shown you are respective of lip service when it suits your needs and supports your beliefs, but beyond taking him at his word, he's just claimed to be a Democrat.


Here, watch.

Dear Abby,

I'm a conservative. I've been pro-life, pro-capital punishment, pro-traditional marriage, anti-immigration, though I will admit I've been on welfare since my plant shut down two years ago and I've been struggling to find a job so I am in support of safety net programs, but lately the Republican party's rampant disrespect for the constitutions, support of candidates like Roy Moore, and hypocrisy concerning dealings with Saudi Arabia have completely turned me off. How can I get behind a party that spent the entire primaries tearing down Trump, claiming he was terrible for the Republican party, and he wasn't a real Republican, but now fully supports him while he does things that my party claims to be completely against? And worst of all, the MAGA/Far Right bunch are so blindly devoted to him, that any time I try to bring up issues I have concerning his blatant disregard to our constitution, they just call me a RINO and shut me down.

Please help.

#WhatHappenedToTheRight?